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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: ariawuu on January 13, 2011, 05:46:47 pm
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for me.. might do around 3 hours per night or 4 hours when sacs come around. I don't know if that's enough though.. :\
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for me.. might do around 3 hours per night or 4 hours when sacs come around. I don't know if that's enough though.. :\
Thats a hell of a lot more then what most people I know normally do. For me it was probably 30 minutes on a bad day and 2 hours on a good day (weekdays), weekends can vary from no study to 3-5 hours
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I'd go for 2~3 hours a night, no more. If you study consistently each night - get a routine going, then there wouldn't be the need to study for ~4 hours the night before a SAC. That's just me though.
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Some of my subjects take up a lot of time.. i know specialists my teacher recommends 2 hours a night. I'm aiming high too...
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I'd go for 2~3 hours a night, no more. If you study consistently each night - get a routine going, then there wouldn't be the need to study for ~4 hours the night before a SAC. That's just me though.
Nah not before the night of a SAC but leading up towards the SAC
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Man, don't study hard out before a sac... if anything, you should be doing less/none and more sleep!
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for me.. might do around 3 hours per night or 4 hours when sacs come around. I don't know if that's enough though.. :\
4 hours is overkill. As EPL said get a routine happening of about 2 to 3 hours. This way you will have time to relax and do otherthings but also maintain full concentration and attention.
I know plenty of people that did a lot of study and it ended up backfiring since they had no time to relax and ended up being full of stress that they needed to do more and more.
If you do 2 hours of spesh a night you will hate on the subject and grow tired of it by the end of the year. I can understand doing 2 hours say Monday, Wednesday and Friday and having the Tuesday and Thursday just dont dedicate all your time to one subject and neglect the others.
Also the night before the SAC try to do no study at all for it and if you make it a maximum of 15-30 minutes to just check something you have forgotton. Otherwise you will have a mind full of information when it likely already knows it and you are overloading and making it do too much when it doesn't have to.
The brain is a simple tool that works well when not over used, people just try and do too much and wonder why why get stressed out.
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for me.. might do around 3 hours per night or 4 hours when sacs come around. I don't know if that's enough though.. :\
4 hours is overkill. As EPL said get a routine happening of about 2 to 3 hours. This way you will have time to relax and do otherthings but also maintain full concentration and attention.
I know plenty of people that did a lot of study and it ended up backfiring since they had no time to relax and ended up being full of stress that they needed to do more and more.
If you do 2 hours of spesh a night you will hate on the subject and grow tired of it by the end of the year. I can understand doing 2 hours say Monday, Wednesday and Friday and having the Tuesday and Thursday just dont dedicate all your time to one subject and neglect the others.
Also the night before the SAC try to do no study at all for it and if you make it a maximum of 15-30 minutes to just check something you have forgotton. Otherwise you will have a mind full of information when it likely already knows it and you are overloading and making it do too much when it doesn't have to.
The brain is a simple tool that works well when not over used, people just try and do too much and wonder why why get stressed out.
i did 5-6 hours last year so 4 hours doesnt kill me.. lol..
and im just saying my teacher told me to do a minimum of 2 hours -.-'' .. but i think i'll be cutting it back to 1.
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if u get topics beforehand for a sac in eng/lit I strong suggest not writing out the whole thing the night before. Do plan but don't go full out.
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from my experience I'd say don't set out an amount of homework you'll do every night...different times vary in the amount of work required....just work until you've revised everything you've learnt at school that day, done any setwork, looked over new vocab or grammar in languages and prepared for any sacs. Also, pretty basic stuff, but start studying for a sac from at least a week before...even two weeks if possible!
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Im going to do enough to pass this year with flying colours :D
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I'd say around 2.5-3 hours is sufficient if you have no sacs on.
In year 11 I spent 1 hour per night for each of my two 3/4 subjects and another hour and a half for my other four subjects.
In year 12 I'm planning to spend 30min for each of my 5 subjects so 2.5 hours on a normal night and if I have a sac of something I'll spend more time on a particular subject and less on another subject.
The most I'll plan to study is 4hours per night if I had lots of homework or something.
Sometimes I regret doing a total of 7 subjects but I adapted to it now :)
I was going to do uni accounting so that would be 8 subjects but then I decided not to...
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3 minimum I reckon.
of course, study time would fluctuate throughout the year hahaha
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Your mind can work at different paces depending on your mood, thus your knowledge absorption rate can fluctuate greatly. I prefer to set a quantity of work to do per day, then limit the time spent on them to improve my efficiency. Instead of making yourself work extra long hrs per day, just try to do make urself do more things in a shorter amount of time.
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Oh wow, that's a lot of hours! :S
I did around one every night (on a good day) and more before a SAC last year.
Now I'm worried... :S
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Oh wow, that's a lot of hours! :S
I did around one every night (on a good day) and more before a SAC last year.
Now I'm worried... :S
you had 4 subjs lol i have 5 >< but yeah you pulled off nicely with that 98.5, i get a feeling ure from mhs haha
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Ah wait... no..LOL i didnt read properly >< nevermindd!
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maybe adding a poll would be good for this thread :D I'd also like to see how much hw i should do every night.
Atm, i do as much as i can before i get distracted/start procrastinating, which is generally about half an hour every day ><
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Oh wow, that's a lot of hours! :S
I did around one every night (on a good day) and more before a SAC last year.
Now I'm worried... :S
you had 4 subjs lol i have 5 >< but yeah you pulled off nicely with that 98.5, i get a feeling ure from mhs haha
Ah wait... no..LOL i didnt read properly >< nevermindd!
Hahaha I lol'd. :)
Yeah I'm hoping to do the majority of my work/study during my free periods (I will have 10 a week next year) and maybe 1-2 hours a night after that.
So to people who have already finished Year 12 - will that be enough? :/
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I have like 2x75min a week fml...
thats what you get when you go to a Catholic school..
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It depends on what sort of study you do. As for me, I could study for 12 hours straight and still not get anything done.
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I did less than 30 minutes per night.. It did help that I was doing all science subjects.
There's no point doing hours of mind-numbing work. Only do what you need to when you need to to maintain a tight grasp of the material.
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Ill probs do 2-3 hours at home depending on what i get done in my spares (usually an hour a day, sometimes 2 :D)
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2 hours a night consistently will get you a massive score.
I did 0-30 mins work on most days, and occasionally like 12 hours when i realized I'd be screwed without doing some
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Doing more than an hour of non-procrastinating work in a night is an achievement in itself. I think I might first aim to reach that goal before going any higher. :P
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Doing more than an hour of non-procrastinating work in a night is an achievement in itself. I think I might first aim to reach that goal before going any higher. :P
Yeah, I reckon that's the truest thing I've heard so far. :D
I always find it hard to believe someone did 4 hours every night - without procrastinating for at least half that time.
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Doing more than an hour of non-procrastinating work in a night is an achievement in itself. I think I might first aim to reach that goal before going any higher. :P
do you know you are brillant? ;D
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I'm a little nervous about having SACs or hw due on Wednesday since I have MUEP from 4:30~7:30 the day before and by the time I have a shower etc, it will be 8pm + I will just be feeling mentally drained from a long day :(
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I'm a little nervous about having SACs or hw due on Wednesday since I have MUEP from 4:30~7:30 the day before and by the time I have a shower etc, it will be 8pm + I will just be feeling mentally drained from a long day :(
Be organised, prepare in advance.
Doing more than an hour of non-procrastinating work in a night is an achievement in itself. I think I might first aim to reach that goal before going any higher. :P
do you know you are brillant? ;D
xD
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I'd have days where I did like 30 minutes of work, and days where I'd have to work like four-five hours (or even up to eight towards the end, although part of it was procrastination time). Really, it just depends on your own organisation and what you need to achieve - I can't see anyone absolutely needing to do 3-4 hours a night to get to their approximate best.
With that said, work consistently. I'd do all the homework, write lots of sample essays etc. in both English and Literature (and Classics in year 11), and those ended up being my best raw scores, and definitely my best SAC scores. I also had on-and-off moments in general with Methods, but on the whole did the work and practice SACs in reasonable time, giving me another study score I was reasonably pleased with.
In contrast, I neglected Spesh most of the year, usually starting homework for the unit within a week to go of the SAC, cramming in spare periods etc. and often not even finishing all the exercises in the text book (thank God some of those things weren't on the SACs >.>). This worked to an extent because SACs are smaller assessments, but by the end of the year it came back to haunt me because really, I was screwed by my crammed knowledge for Spesh in regards to practice exams/the actual exam, and ended up underperforming in comparison to where I felt my actual maths talent was (although I guess I can't complain, since it still scaled higher than English :p).
And then there's Japanese. I consistently worked in that, in the sense that I did pretty much no work for it all year. Still not sure how I got above 40 - I'll recommend Anime watching as a good form of study, since that's all I can think of that really contributed to it. >.>
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I'll recommend Anime watching as a good form of study, since that's all I can think of that really contributed to it. >.>
i am very glad to hear that.
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I'm planning to study 1-2hrs a night, even on SAC nights...
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3-4 hours should do the trick.
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It's not a good idea to think in terms of "how many hours do I do a night?" The score you get in the end is not proportional to the time you spend on the subject, it depends on the knowledege that is in your head as well as exam technique and a bit of luck.
It's better to think in terms of "What do I need to have accomplished this week?" and then allocate goals to each night.
Although hard work does lead to better results, I don't think it's neccesarily beneficial to think along the lines of "I just need to work as hard as I can" because then you end up doing work that you don't need to do just for the sake of working hard.
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It's better to think in terms of "What do I need to have accomplished this week?" and then allocate goals to each night.
Although hard work does lead to better results, I don't think it's neccesarily beneficial to think along the lines of "I just need to work as hard as I can" because then you end up doing work that you don't need to do just for the sake of working hard.
Quoted for truth :) It is more about working smart and to a plan for a week and tick/mark things off. This also makes you feel as you have done something and are achieving your short term goals.
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4 hours of work (with radio on) per day (maybe less on friday nights) following tasks from my school diary (noted in every day btw). Worked in year 11 (except I didn't do any bio study...)
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It's not a good idea to think in terms of "how many hours do I do a night?" The score you get in the end is not proportional to the time you spend on the subject, it depends on the knowledege that is in your head as well as exam technique and a bit of luck.
It's better to think in terms of "What do I need to have accomplished this week?" and then allocate goals to each night.
Although hard work does lead to better results, I don't think it's neccesarily beneficial to think along the lines of "I just need to work as hard as I can" because then you end up doing work that you don't need to do just for the sake of working hard.
Agree
But im just curious how many hours people study a night that's all, hence the title isnt worded as 'how many hours of homework should I do per night"
I read in the newspaper somewhere that its a measure of productivity not the number of hours you sit down, just for people who didn't know :)
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Quality > Quantity
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Quality > Quantity
I prefer 'quality and quantity'
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Quality > Quantity
I prefer 'quality and quantity'
quality+productivity chyeahh (Y)
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from my experience I'd say don't set out an amount of homework you'll do every night...different times vary in the amount of work required....just work until you've revised everything you've learnt at school that day, done any setwork, looked over new vocab or grammar in languages and prepared for any sacs. Also, pretty basic stuff, but start studying for a sac from at least a week before...even two weeks if possible!
Thisssssss. Just organise everything you need to do into a list of goals for the night and work through it. As so many people have said so far, successful study doesn't come down to time, it's comes down to how you use whatever time you have. For me this coming home and from say, 5 til 10 working through whatever I have to and then jumping into bed at 10. Sleep is under rated and is so vital in success. And obviously, in that 5 hour block there's time for AN/VN, food, relaxing, sport, etc.
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from my experience I'd say don't set out an amount of homework you'll do every night...different times vary in the amount of work required....just work until you've revised everything you've learnt at school that day, done any setwork, looked over new vocab or grammar in languages and prepared for any sacs. Also, pretty basic stuff, but start studying for a sac from at least a week before...even two weeks if possible!
Thisssssss. Just organise everything you need to do into a list of goals for the night and work through it. As so many people have said so far, successful study doesn't come down to time, it's comes down to how you use whatever time you have. For me this coming home and from say, 5 til 10 working through whatever I have to and then jumping into bed at 10. Sleep is under rated and is so vital in success. And obviously, in that 5 hour block there's time for AN/VN, food, relaxing, sport, etc.
That is awesome. :D
Also, time to relax, and not feel like the only thing you're doing is study would be good too. :P
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from my experience I'd say don't set out an amount of homework you'll do every night...different times vary in the amount of work required....just work until you've revised everything you've learnt at school that day, done any setwork, looked over new vocab or grammar in languages and prepared for any sacs. Also, pretty basic stuff, but start studying for a sac from at least a week before...even two weeks if possible!
Thisssssss. Just organise everything you need to do into a list of goals for the night and work through it. As so many people have said so far, successful study doesn't come down to time, it's comes down to how you use whatever time you have. For me this coming home and from say, 5 til 10 working through whatever I have to and then jumping into bed at 10. Sleep is under rated and is so vital in success. And obviously, in that 5 hour block there's time for AN/VN, food, relaxing, sport, etc.
That is awesome. :D
Also, time to relax, and not feel like the only thing you're doing is study would be good too. :P
+1! SLEEP AHH OF COURSE ;D
but i have a friend who sleeps for about 5 hours :S she's trained herself to cope with only 5 HOURS and yet still get a good report..
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Yep.. sleep is definitely important. I don't care if an awesome TV show is airing late at night, or I feel the urge to cram into the early hours of the morning.. I will always want my sleep!
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Yep.. sleep is definitely important. I don't care if an awesome TV show is airing late at night, or I feel the urge to cram into the early hours of the morning.. I will always want my sleep!
Very important, and especially without subjects like geo, history and music craft... (deepest apologies to all arts/humanities students for that)
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Humanities subjects are awesome.
It's like a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders, knowing that I won't be doing any more mathematics or science in my lifetime... regardless of the preconception that 'maths is all around us'.
Another thing: set up a quiet place for study. This may seem like a minor thing, but it's actually really important. I used to study in the 'study room' which is actually supposed to be a theatre room (and hence the minimal lighting/darkness due to the slim 30cm high window) and the room was shared with my brother and was often associated with computer leisure time, music and so on alongside study. It was a really difficult place to study in. So I moved my table into my bedroom, next to the window and facing the wall so I don't get tempted to have a lie down on the bed. And I think already it's doing wonders.. ;D Have a dedicated place for work, and another for play. Make sure you associate your workplace with study and study only - I'm banning myself from bringing the laptop for AN/VN/leisure/music into the bedroom from now on.. and ironically, am only using the laptop in the 'study room' from now on.
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^^ I have just have two desks. One for school work, one for computer (rarely need computer for maths, sciences, etc.). Bed in the middle <--- so I cbs going from my study desk to my comp desk (I'm pretty lazy sometimes) as the bed is 'in the way'.
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Quality > Quantity
A certain amount of quantity is required for quality
i'll probably be aiming for a minimum of 4hrs on weekdays (includes frees)
and 5+ on weekends, then ballistic on term breaks (this will most like not happen and ill work around 20% of it lol...)
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LOL yeah, sometimes I'll tell myself "okay you've got to study for x subject for 3 hours tonight" and usually for some rebellious reason, I just end up slacking off. I think it's better if you put more significance on the amount of work you get done, rather than the amount of hours it will take. Sometimes tasks that you think will take an hour may take much less if you don't put that time constraint on yourself and just work as you go :)
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Sometimes tasks that you think will take an hour may take much less if you don't put that time constraint on yourself and just work as you go :)
lol usually its an underestimate
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Sometimes tasks that you think will take an hour may take much less if you don't put that time constraint on yourself and just work as you go :)
lol usually its an underestimate
+1, especially when using maths quest! Tasks that should take 1 hour could take 2 because they are so dry and repetitive...
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sometimes it amazes me that I survived methods with mathsquest.
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sometimes it amazes me that I survived methods with mathsquest.
LOL, maths quest is a joke! Heinamenn can be worse though, they took literally a whole page once *just* for a photo that was related to the question.. :S (The photo was pretty though ^.^)
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sometimes it amazes me that I survived methods with mathsquest.
IT'S AN AWESOME BOOK
I MEAN, A QUEST OF MATHS? :O
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If you want someone who does freak hours of homework, Andiio is your man!
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If you want someone who does freak hours of homework, Andiio is your man!
wah?
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For me there was no specific period of time that I did homework for every night. When I got home from school each night I tended to just figure out what I needed to do that night and then just did that. Some nights I did 2 or 3 hours, other nights I was still up at 12! It really just depends on whether you've got SACs coming up, if you're doing summaries, or whatever.
Also, as has been said already, some subjects are more time-consuming than others. For example, English homework was always quick, as I could write a couple of essays in about 2 hours and be done with English for the night, whereas with PE and Legal Studies for me, I sometimes had to allocate a whole night to just one of those subjects.
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If you want someone who does freak hours of homework, Andiio is your man!
wah?
Up at 2am doing trig questions even when its holidays. mad as.
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If you want someone who does freak hours of homework, Andiio is your man!
wah?
Up at 2am doing trig questions even when its holidays. mad as.
What. LOL IT WASN'T 2am!?!?!?
doc ngau
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If you want someone who does freak hours of homework, Andiio is your man!
wah?
Up at 2am doing trig questions even when its holidays. mad as.
why not...
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For me, I did 2 hours per night on average.
I did also spend 1 hour a day exercising (Weight training or mountain biking) and a few hours of music (School bands and solo work) a week. This was, i think, essential to my success (I scored well above my goal) as it kept me fit, relaxed and gave me a break from bookwork whilst still engaging my brain.
Having said that, I spent ever spare period and half an hour of lunch in the library working!
...I also didn't start studying properly (ie not cramming!) until year 12.
If i can offer more advice, It is to keep well ahead with your studies. If you start preparation for a sac a few weeks out, making sure you understand all the principles and ideas that will be examined, you will relieve yourself of a lot of unnecessary stress and will reduce your workload!
Remember guys, Stay human! See your friends, do things you enjoy and stay organized.
Good luck!
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Remember guys, Stay human! See your friends, do things you enjoy and stay organized.
Eff man, cannot stress this enough. The amount of concern you guys have with finishing the course 3 months before exam is superfluous.
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WHUT 3 MONTHS?
more like 10 months. (summer holiday study FTW)
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Mid years.
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If you want someone who does freak hours of homework, Andiio is your man!
wah?
Up at 2am doing trig questions even when its holidays. mad as.
why not...
...............umm...
how about first of all, study needs to be regulated and done at a healthy pace? He knows what I mean anyways LOL.
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meh, its holidays
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I'm intending to do 30 minutes for each subject this year... so that would be a total of 2.5 hours a night, but I'm pretty lazy generally so I probably wont end up doing anywhere near that (and it'll cost me... damn you facebook).
For my 3/4 this year I didn't really study except before SACs and a lot before the exam (obviously), so I've never actually really experienced consistent "every night studying" outside of exam periods haha
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If you want someone who does freak hours of homework, Andiio is your man!
wah?
Up at 2am doing trig questions even when its holidays. mad as.
why not...
...............umm...
how about first of all, study needs to be regulated and done at a healthy pace? He knows what I mean anyways LOL.
She's 100% right.
Anyone who thinks that having a non-existent social life in VCE will ultimately yield a high ATAR can smb.
A balance is definitely necessary.
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If you want someone who does freak hours of homework, Andiio is your man!
wah?
Up at 2am doing trig questions even when its holidays. mad as.
why not...
...............umm...
how about first of all, study needs to be regulated and done at a healthy pace? He knows what I mean anyways LOL.
She's 100% right.
Anyone who thinks that having a non-existent social life in VCE will ultimately yield a high ATAR can smb.
A balance is definitely necessary.
i dont care who's right. vn is getting on my nerves..
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i dont care who's right. vn is getting on my nerves..
;D Exactly my thoughts on this.
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If you want someone who does freak hours of homework, Andiio is your man!
wah?
Up at 2am doing trig questions even when its holidays. mad as.
why not...
...............umm...
how about first of all, study needs to be regulated and done at a healthy pace? He knows what I mean anyways LOL.
She's 100% right.
Anyone who thinks that having a non-existent social life in VCE will ultimately yield a high ATAR can smb.
A balance is definitely necessary.
i dont care who's right. vn is getting on my nerves..
Lmao, someone needs to chillax - VN is just a community, people here are trying to help.
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I have already reached my quota of arguments in VN for the month so I honestly don't care LOL, and I wasn't looking to argue with you, just clear up why exactly you are so bothered with me saying that about Andiio.
But I have to say,
VN is getting on my nerves too because so many people like you seem to encourage this face of hardcore studying and elitist expectations and views of how VCE should be handled- essentially that we must all exert ourselves to the point of only living for VCE and killing all other outside life sources.
FFS, wake up at 11am, eat your breakfast, do your hw, see friends and have a life and sleep at 12am, or even 2am.
Not to take it out on you ariawu, but I've seen this going on so much in the forum its been driving me insane.
Where were the days where we discussed CONCEPTS, not QUANTITATIVE MEASUREMENTS OF HOW MUCH WE STUDIED.
/rant.
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i'm not even going to quote what you just said.
don't even get me started (if you think i have already) SIGH
Edit: lets take this elsewhere? maybe not on a thread where its easy to spam a lot?
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Where were the days where we discussed CONCEPTS, not QUANTITATIVE MEASUREMENTS OF HOW MUCH WE STUDIED. (???)
i was curious can i not be curious?
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i'm not even going to quote what you just said.
don't get even get me started (if you think i have already) SIGH
Do go on actually, because I'm curious as to what your perspective is. Whilst I'm obviously not as jaded as iffets is, I'm inclined to agree with most of what she said.
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i'm not even going to quote what you just said.
don't get even get me started (if you think i have already) SIGH
Do go on actually, because I'm curious as to what your perspective is. Whilst I'm obviously not as jaded as iffets is, I'm inclined to agree with most of what she said.
nah rather not waste my time. if you're curious enough we can pm if u want.
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i'm not even going to quote what you just said.
don't get even get me started (if you think i have already) SIGH
Please just relax and stop the arguing. It's pointless, and just plain stupid.
Also, Steffi wasn't saying "OMG YOU CAN'T BE CURIOUS"
Sure, be curious, question everything - it's not a bad thing.
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i'm not even going to quote what you just said.
don't get even get me started (if you think i have already) SIGH
Do go on actually, because I'm curious as to what your perspective is. Whilst I'm obviously not as jaded as iffets is, I'm inclined to agree with most of what she said.
nah rather not waste my time. if you're curious enough we can pm if u want.
What happened to "---i dont want to be a spectator, i wanna get in there and fight!---"?
Start fighting for what you believe in, noob.
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i'm not even going to quote what you just said.
don't get even get me started (if you think i have already) SIGH
Please just relax and stop the arguing. It's pointless, and just plain stupid.
Also, Steffi wasn't saying "OMG YOU CAN'T BE CURIOUS"
Sure, be curious, question everything - it's not a bad thing.
hey do u not read what i said to EZ?
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Where were the days where we discussed CONCEPTS, not QUANTITATIVE MEASUREMENTS OF HOW MUCH WE STUDIED. (???)
i was curious can i not be curious?
Wait... as much as I like the presence of both of you on the forums, I couldn't help but make note of the irony/contradiction in that you (ariawuu) created this thread? The 'how many hours' in the thread title that you seek answers for doesn't match the comment where you disagree with members' posts about 'quantitative measurements of how much they study'..
Just saying. Let me know if I misinterpreted anything. ;)
EDIT: Totally misinterpreted the post due to mistakes in previous quoting. Oops.
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Where were the days where we discussed CONCEPTS, not QUANTITATIVE MEASUREMENTS OF HOW MUCH WE STUDIED. (???)
i was curious can i not be curious?
Wait... as much as I like the presence of both of you on the forums, I couldn't help but make note of the irony/contradiction in that you (ariawuu) created this thread? The 'how many hours' in the thread title that you seek answers for doesn't match the comment where you disagree with members' posts about 'quantitative measurements of how much they study'..
Just saying. Let me know if I misinterpreted anything. ;)
Lol that first part was quoted by iffets
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*facepalm*
If only quoting big slabs of posts wasn't so hard..
Apologies to ariawuu and iffets.
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*facepalm*
If only quoting big slabs of posts wasn't so hard..
Apologies to ariawuu and iffets.
.. well when ppl quote me i feel a little targeted. so i tend to stray away from it. just considering ppl's feelings. I don't like to argue too.. thats why I'd rather take it away elsewhere -___- i can blurt out everything but i choose not to ok?
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i'm not even going to quote what you just said.
don't get even get me started (if you think i have already) SIGH
Do go on actually, because I'm curious as to what your perspective is. Whilst I'm obviously not as jaded as iffets is, I'm inclined to agree with most of what she said.
nah rather not waste my time. if you're curious enough we can pm if u want.
What happened to "---i dont want to be a spectator, i wanna get in there and fight!---"?
Start fighting for what you believe in, noob.
lol.. cos fighting over something like this..is stupid? I fight for something worthwhile.
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I propose this be resolved with a threeway jelly wrestle between werdna, iffets2535390i3, and ariawuu.
enjoy andrew ;)
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I propose this be resolved with a threeway jelly wrestle between werdna, iffets2535390i3, and ariawuu.
enjoy andrew ;)
What on earth is a jelly wrestle?! ;D ;D
We seriously need to get back to the topic at hand. (the OP's question, that is)
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just for the lolz. one of my maths teachers always say that you dont need sleep just keep doing maths ;)
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I propose this be resolved with a threeway jelly wrestle between werdna, iffets2535390i3, and ariawuu.
enjoy andrew ;)
What on earth is a jelly wrestle?! ;D ;D
We seriously need to get back to the topic at hand. (the OP's question, that is)
Very true this has gone way off topic.
I still don't think a set amount each night is necessary; do what you HAVE to do, then add on little things here and there (checkpoints, extra notes, practice sacs/tests) to get where you want.
PS.
Werdna, google jelly wrestle. Though in interest of keeping it PG rated, make sure safesearch is on
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Hey iffets, youve finished VCE now, you've got your ATAR, youre going to Uni? Isn't life going to be great?
Are you offering Tutoring? Why are you on the forums late at night to suddenly blurt out at people? Is something the matter dear?
Maybe its the shitty summer weather, the weather makes me angry too. Instead of verbally insinuating about others i tend to play beyblades though.
Hmm what will i be doing this time next year. hmmm.... I will be enjoying post VCE life... probably not going to be trolling people on VN. Looking forward to it.
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Hey iffets, youve finished VCE now, you've got your ATAR, youre going to Uni? Isn't life going to be great?
Are you offering Tutoring? Why are you on the forums late at night to suddenly blurt out at people? Is something the matter dear?
Maybe its the shitty summer weather, the weather makes me angry too. Instead of verbally insinuating about others i tend to play beyblades though.
Hmm what will i be doing this time next year. hmmm.... I will be enjoying post VCE life... probably not going to be trolling people on VN. Looking forward to it.
You're trolling right now.
I propose this be resolved with a threeway jelly wrestle between werdna, iffets2535390i3, and ariawuu.
enjoy andrew ;)
What on earth is a jelly wrestle?! ;D ;D
We seriously need to get back to the topic at hand. (the OP's question, that is)
Cannot believe you don't know about jelly wrestling werdna!
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I'm simply applying the technique of teaching using the student's language.
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I'm simply applying the technique of teaching using the student's language.
You (think) you're sticking up for your friend, but you're trolling.
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I'm simply applying the technique of teaching using the student's language.
I'm no English teacher, but this sentence seems so fragmentally and grammatically incorrect it's confusing to even look at.
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@ werdna
Replace using with in and that make sense, Sir?
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I'm not really trying to stick up for ariawuu because i find the argument pointless, i just find it amusing how iffetz types paragraphs to denigrate/attack whoever she wants. Mouth cannon.
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@ werdna
Replace using with in and that make sense, Sir?
The sentence, as a whole, doesn't make any sense. No replacement of words can fix it.
I'm not really trying to stick up for ariawuu because i find the argument pointless, i just find it amusing how iffetz types paragraphs to denigrate/attack whoever she wants. Mouth cannon.
I think iffets made it quite clear that she wasn't out to attack ariawuu. People are encouraged to say/write as much as they can in order to effectively convey their stance, to avoid any misinterpretations and misunderstandings. ariawuu was given the opportunity to provide her own stance on the matter also.
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I'm not really trying to stick up for ariawuu because i find the argument pointless, i just find it amusing how iffetz types paragraphs to denigrate/attack whoever she wants. Mouth cannon.
And it's more appropriate to use slurs, I see.
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Well....
If you're not out to attack someone why infer/ insinuate to provoke a response?
Yes we live with free speech and she can say what she want, but i just question the need for the explosive angry style of iffets. If this forum does piss her off so much, she can leave.
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@ werdna
Replace using with in and that make sense, Sir?
The sentence, as a whole, doesn't make any sense. No replacement of words can fix it.
I'm not really trying to stick up for ariawuu because i find the argument pointless, i just find it amusing how iffetz types paragraphs to denigrate/attack whoever she wants. Mouth cannon.
I think iffets made it quite clear that she wasn't out to attack ariawuu. People are encouraged to say/write as much as they can in order to effectively convey their stance, to avoid any misinterpretations and misunderstandings. ariawuu was given the opportunity to provide her own stance on the matter also.
But I have to say,
VN is getting on my nerves too because so many people like you seem to encourage this face of hardcore studying and elitist expectations and views of how VCE should be handled- essentially that we must all exert ourselves to the point of only living for VCE and killing all other outside life sources.
thats attacking :( and not to mention a bad inference.
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Lmao, ariawuu, you started the argument, not iffets. You're the one who got all offended when she wasn't even addressing her comments to you. Learn to relax. And if VN pisses you off so much, nobody is making you stay.
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@ Ghost!!!
O.o yay language analysis woot?
My apologies, mouth cannon is incorrect. I should say raging keystroker.
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"I have already reached my quota of arguments in VN for the month so I honestly don't care LOL, and I wasn't looking to argue with you, just clear up why exactly you are so bothered with me saying that about Andiio."
i wasn't bothered about what she said about Andioo.. her first post itself was totally irrelevant to the thread.. :\
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Lmao, ariawuu, you started the argument, not iffets. You're the one who got all offended when she wasn't even addressing her comments to you. Learn to relax. And if VN pisses you off so much, nobody is making you stay.
lol well hacik did in my opinion.. called me a noob *tear*
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I've handed out a one day ban to echenzi for trolling. Ariawuu, it's true that iffets was perhaps a bit too aggressive with her generalised attack. Hacik also did attack you, although I wouldn't say "noob" is the worst possible attack in this kind of context. At the same time, you had some very reactive rebuttal, and your self-victimisation is, to put it bluntly, not really adding much sympathy to your cause.
So it turns out we've all made a bit of a mistake, although really I think only echenzi has taken it way too far. Cool - we know where we can all improve now.
So everyone, chill out and get back on topic.
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Oh and i wouldnt start things if i wanted to end it lol
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I'm just gonna jump in here and say I plan to do ~2-4 hours a day depending on what's needed. That includes my 10 frees a week, and a 30 minute session in the mornings in the school library. Which amounts to no hours - one and a half hours in the night, so my evenings are pretty free.
On a good Saturday I hope to get 4 hours, but I'll be happy with 2 or 3 tbh. :D And Sunday is a day of rest unless I'm desperate. :P
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I'm just gonna jump in here and say I plan to do ~2-4 hours a day depending on what's needed. That includes my 10 frees a week, and a 30 minute session in the mornings in the school library. Which amounts to no hours - one and a half hours in the night, so my evenings are pretty free.
On a good Saturday I hope to get 4 hours, but I'll be happy with 2 or 3 tbh. :D And Sunday is a day of rest unless I'm desperate. :P
woooooooo go u :D
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I'm just gonna jump in here and say I plan to do ~2-4 hours a day depending on what's needed. That includes my 10 frees a week, and a 30 minute session in the mornings in the school library. Which amounts to no hours - one and a half hours in the night, so my evenings are pretty free.
On a good Saturday I hope to get 4 hours, but I'll be happy with 2 or 3 tbh. :D And Sunday is a day of rest unless I'm desperate. :P
woooooooo go u :D
aaahhh, if only I got a dollar every time someone said that to me. :P
Just kidding. :D
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I'm just gonna jump in here and say I plan to do ~2-4 hours a day depending on what's needed. That includes my 10 frees a week, and a 30 minute session in the mornings in the school library. Which amounts to no hours - one and a half hours in the night, so my evenings are pretty free.
On a good Saturday I hope to get 4 hours, but I'll be happy with 2 or 3 tbh. :D And Sunday is a day of rest unless I'm desperate. :P
woooooooo go u :D
aaahhh, if only I got a dollar every time someone said that to me. :P
Just kidding. :D
:D
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I've handed out a one day ban to echenzi for trolling. Ariawuu, it's true that iffets was perhaps a bit too aggressive with her generalised attack. Hacik also did attack you, although I wouldn't say "noob" is the worst possible attack in this kind of context. At the same time, you had some very reactive rebuttal, and your self-victimisation is, to put it bluntly, not really adding much sympathy to your cause.
So it turns out we've all made a bit of a mistake, although really I think only echenzi has taken it way too far. Cool - we know where we can all improve now.
So everyone, chill out and get back on topic.
On that note, I have extended echenzi's ban for attempting to evade the original one using another account.
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Well considering my poor results this year (IMO atleast, for my family it's considered pretty damn good), hoping to do atleast on average 30 mins per night.
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1 hour on homework
4 hours on games
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1 hour on homework
4 hours on games
^^My holiday regime
Whoa, eddie got tempo banned... Never would have guessed...
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1 hour on homework
4 hours on games
You're Destined for greatness ;)
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Fallout 3 was released the weekend before my English exam, I logged at least a dozen hours over the exam period.
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I think Batman Arkham City is coming out near exam time this year... DAMN IT!
Last year I think Black Ops was around exam time.
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I think Batman Arkham City is coming out near exam time this year... DAMN IT!
Last year I think Black Ops was around exam time.
Day after methods I think. =)
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They're projecting Q3 for Arkham City, hopefully it won't interfere with exams. But eh, last semester this year my results won't be that important so even if it's pushed back I can sink my life into it
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1 hour on homework
4 hours on games
You're Destined for greatness ;)
I manage just fine. In 2010 doing 3 year 12 subjects I probably averaged about 2 mins a night of work. I did my physics EPI in 3 nights before it was due when we had about 4-5 weeks to do it... I got 39/40. The 1 mark I lost is because I decided to ignore a criticism the teacher gave me :P
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I love how there's a stereotype that MHS kids do craploads of hw. I graduated last year from MHS and while I worked hard I only ever did tops 2 hours of work a night. When exams got closer of course I did more but during the year..tops 2 hours.
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Hopefully 2 :|
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Atleast 3 hours, hopefully touching 4 hours with 50 minute sessions with 10 minutes break between each session.
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Atleast 3 hours, hopefully touching 4 hours with 50 minute sessions with 10 minutes break between each session.
Exactly my way of doing things. It makes me stick to a deadline and helps me get things done within a time frame (like an exam).
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It really doesn't depend on how many hours of homework you do, but how efficiently you use the time. Some days I would spend 3 hours or more doing homework while at the same time listening to music and chatting on msn, and I can safely say that the days which I spent only an hour doing homework without a computer were more beneficial.
Time isn't the key factor, it's what you do in the time that counts.
Having said that I did waste a lot of time on the days which I did absolutely nothing xD
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Will any of your 3-4 hours studying/hw be spent during spares at school?? If not i think that it may be a bit excessive - in the aspect that you will be churning out 3-4 hours of study most school days, not to mention the amount you will do on weekends. IMO you will get burnt out before the first term finishes (a bit of an exaggeration) and one question i'll ask is, is it necessary to spend that amount of time everyday?? I understand if you have a SAC in the coming days but for your daily study routine...
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Atleast 3 hours, hopefully touching 4 hours with 50 minute sessions with 10 minutes break between each session.
That's what I am hoping to do. My main problem is procrastination, but I'm going to try to set up a good study area before school starts up. My plan is to write up exactly what I want done each night and ticking it off as I go.
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I'm aiming at 4 hours a night
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But then again, it's quality not quantity that matters
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Atleast 3 hours, hopefully touching 4 hours with 50 minute sessions with 10 minutes break between each session.
That's what I am hoping to do. My main problem is procrastination, but I'm going to try to set up a good study area before school starts up. My plan is to write up exactly what I want done each night and ticking it off as I go.
Yeah I find little psychological strategies (i.e. ticking off lists, etc.) help heaps for procrastination.
Whenever your a little low on motivation, tricking yourself like that goes a long way.
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I'll be studying/doing homework for about an average of 2 or 3 hours a week. Hopefully I can get work done in spares and just chill out after school on most days.
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I'll be studying/doing homework for about an average of 2 or 3 hours a week. Hopefully I can get work done in spares and just chill out after school on most days.
2 or 3 hours a day you mean?! :P
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I'll be studying/doing homework for about an average of 2 or 3 hours a week. Hopefully I can get work done in spares and just chill out after school on most days.
I think she means 2 or 3 hours a week. "Chill out after school on most days" gives it away.
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I'll be studying/doing homework for about an average of 2 or 3 hours a week. Hopefully I can get work done in spares and just chill out after school on most days.
2 or 3 hours a day you mean?! :P
Most people really don't need that much, if they are efficient in what they do..
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I studied for about 3 hours per day, but could have done the same amount of study in around 2 hours if I'd been more efficient. I liked studying slowly though.
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I studied for about 3 hours per day, but could have done the same amount of study in around 2 hours if I'd been more efficient. I liked studying slowly though.
This.
You can consolidate the information better.
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Anyone study on transport (ie train. tram, car, etc.)?
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Anyone study on transport (ie train. tram, car, etc.)?
I've tried that, it doesn't work for me (usually too crowded). :(
The only thing I can do on trains are
~Listening to podcasts
~Reading Lit novels (or my rens textbook, which is really quite tiny).
~Using flashcards.
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Anyone study on transport (ie train. tram, car, etc.)?
Yup, but all I can do is read. I can't do work, or take notes
I used to listen to Douchy heaps and read random sections of Nature in the train last year
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^^ I also listened to Unit 4 Douchy! (he said you were thuzan...)
I also read and I even finished a few chapters of Maths Quest (I made a 4-seater my study desk!)
I've tried that, it doesn't work for me (usually too crowded). :(
Luckily for me, the Werribee line is so empty and quiet. I think there are only 2 MHS year 12s on my line next year (including myself) :o The other guy is shown here (*facepalm*) -its pretty funny though (and thats not the MHS uniform btw, its the Werribee Secondary one)
^Says a lot about outer-western suburbs...
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I can never study properly on public transport, only skim over notes that I've written that day or the day before.
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Listening to self-created voice memos!
(standing up most of the time)
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Anyone study on transport (ie train. tram, car, etc.)?
Yes, I study on the train...it's quiet and empty enough to be comfortably seated with a pen in one hand a notebook in another. I can only ever write essays, go over flashcards and read books. Doing questions from books is hard, especially if it's maths. It's only doable if you can use the calculator single handed.
Tram is too crowded and can get stuffy in the summer.
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I find it hard to study on any form of public transport. I rarely do it; it's always packed on the tram when I get on. Though last year, I listened to my Latin teacher reciting some Latin poem that we had recite back the following day on the tram. It was an audio bite and I listened to that on repeat, since I had nothing better to do. It was about "Catullus" for those interested; it didn't help either, the quality of the bite was sooo poor and the tram was packed. Though, the car sometimes works for me; reading over notes/novel and so on.
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i cant read/write on any moving vehicle. makes me dizzy :(
:buck2:
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i cant read/write on any moving vehicle. makes me dizzy :(
:buck2:
Motion Sickness ftw, I can't play FPS. that includes CoD or any 3D MMORPG games. GG :d
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English Language flash cards on trains, English books on buses :3
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I can't study on public transport. It's either too loud/crowded, or i find that the rocking motion of the bus and (especially) the train lulls me to sleeeeeeeepppp- and then i crack my head against the window. T_T
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i cant read/write on any moving vehicle. makes me dizzy :(
:buck2:
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Motion Sickness ftw, I can't play FPS. that includes CoD or any 3D MMORPG games. GG :d
I puke hard when I play fps for more than 5 mins.... And everyone in my family fears me when I try reading on vehicles=D
I hate motion sicknes. Hardcore
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i cant read/write on any moving vehicle. makes me dizzy :(
:buck2:
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Motion Sickness ftw, I can't play FPS. that includes CoD or any 3D MMORPG games. GG :d
I puke hard when I play fps for more than 5 mins.... And everyone in my family fears me when I try reading on vehicles=D
I hate motion sicknes. Hardcore
I suffer from motion sickness as well :'( It sucks sooo much.
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On the topic of things, I'll be doing the minimum requirement to achieve 98 ;D Whatever hours that is
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don't think about it in terms of hours; do what works for you.
if 1 hour a day is the best for you, then go for it. if 4 hours a day is best for you, then go for it.
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don't think about it in terms of hours; do what works for you.
+1, solid advice right there
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Having a plan or aim is advisable though :)
Having an 'aim' -yes, but a plan is not neccessary. Of the 3 99.95-ers in our school of 2009, only one of them made a daily plan.
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Having a plan or aim is advisable though :)
Having an 'aim' -yes, but a plan is not neccessary. Of the 3 99.95-ers in our school of 2009, only one of them made a daily plan.
(who were the 3 99.95 in 09 ? )
I didn't mean daily plan just a general, plan, like 6 hours on weekends and 3 hours on weekdays or something
Aka KBT guys
Kunal Luthra, Bill Huang, Tom Lew
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Did kunal advertise on VCE notes?
Yeh he did
http://vce.atarnotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,35295.0.html
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I'll be studying/homeworking between 2 and 3 hours a night.
No study on Friday, though. That's my night off 8D
Having a plan or aim is advisable though :)
Having an 'aim' -yes, but a plan is not neccessary. Of the 3 99.95-ers in our school of 2009, only one of them made a daily plan.
If I remember, one of them partied every weekend and got up early Sunday to study spesh :|