ATAR Notes: Forum
Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: Raahem on January 19, 2011, 09:17:54 pm
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hi! i understand the enrolment in subjects procedure is
- pick my 3rd year subjects
- enrol in all their prereqs
problem is i have no idea what subjects i wanna be doing NOW let alone in 2013 :( what can I do? i will of course be attending AAD on monday and probs making an appointment but any info would be much appreciated
second problem, is the streams.
I know that Actuarial Studies requires different subjects and tracks, so i understand that stream,
i am not going to do Actuarial Studies.
what is the Business and General stream?? whats the difference? which do i want? aaaaaaahhh :(
i refer to this choice from 3 options:
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:O aw thanks azure that does sound likely. if that is the case i would go general stream but you're right in waiting for moar confirmation :)
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I think the business stream would be for students wanting to pursue a business major (that is, third year made up of 3 of more disciplines of commerce). Otherwise, I would infer that if you're not studying an actuarial or business major, you go with the general stream. Can someone studying commerce or an expert course adviser (eg. Russ, RusticMetal) confirm this?
correct.
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I have no idea, commerce people scare me and I know nothing about their degree structure!
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I intend on doing Bcom majoring in Accounting... But the subjects I need to do and number of subjects I have to take is really confusing ! I intend on doing Intermediate French alongside it... Can anybody help me out ? I have no idea where to start with subject selection..
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I intend on doing Bcom majoring in Accounting... But the subjects I need to do and number of subjects I have to take is really confusing ! I intend on doing Intermediate French alongside it... Can anybody help me out ? I have no idea where to start with subject selection..
You will have to do three core subjects (the compulsory ones) and to major in accounting; you have to do Accounting Report Analysis and Accounting Transaction Analysis and Principles of Business Law ( to meet CPA/CA accredition requirements) and you will have one breadth subject to choose.
That is for year 1
and for the breadth, you may be able to do French. So it all works out nicely for you!
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Awesome !! Thanks heaps that makes things a lot easier :) It all works out !
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Yep. ARA, ATA and PBL (breadth) are subjects you must do in first year for the accounting major. Secondly, there is the compulsory quantitative part in first year such as "Quantitative Methods 1". Thirdly, another 2 subjects are compulsory - Introductory Microeconomics and Introductory Macroeconomics.
Already, this is 6 subjects thus far. Then you have room for one more commerce elective and one more breadth (for example).
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Hang on - I just saw this sample course plan http://www.bcom.unimelb.edu.au/bachelor/majors/accounting.html
And it says I gotta do QM1, Intr.Micro and Intr. Macro.. then ATA, ARA, PBL and also APA to qualify... that would only leave me with one breadth in semester two.. Can i put French there ? I assumed French would be an all year thing ? Ahhh so confusing !
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You can do as many breadth subjects as you want in first year but if you do too many you're going to have a very boring 2nd/3rd year
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That's referring to the level of the subject, not the year in which you complete it
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What are you referring to by sequencing? You certainly don't need to do 8 1st year, 8 2nd year and 8 3rd year subjects exactly.
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There are plenty of 2nd/3rd year subjects with no prerequisites, especially when it comes to breadth
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do i have to pick a major now?
and do i have to enrol for the whole 3 years :S ?
i'd like to do diploma of french alongside
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I intend on doing Bcom majoring in Accounting... But the subjects I need to do and number of subjects I have to take is really confusing ! I intend on doing Intermediate French alongside it... Can anybody help me out ? I have no idea where to start with subject selection..
You will have to do three core subjects (the compulsory ones) and to major in accounting; you have to do Accounting Report Analysis and Accounting Transaction Analysis and Principles of Business Law ( to meet CPA/CA accredition requirements) and you will have one breadth subject to choose.
For the finance major, what units do you have to do to meet the CPA accreditation requirements?
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I intend on doing Bcom majoring in Accounting... But the subjects I need to do and number of subjects I have to take is really confusing ! I intend on doing Intermediate French alongside it... Can anybody help me out ? I have no idea where to start with subject selection..
You will have to do three core subjects (the compulsory ones) and to major in accounting; you have to do Accounting Report Analysis and Accounting Transaction Analysis and Principles of Business Law ( to meet CPA/CA accredition requirements) and you will have one breadth subject to choose.
For the finance major, what units do you have to do to meet the CPA accreditation requirements?
the accreditation requirements is covered in the Course Planning Guide 2011 :D
http://www.csc.unimelb.edu.au/downloads/CPG_2011.pdf
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no one has still explained BC - General and BC - Business :(
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So if I wanna do a double business major, I have to do the Business stream?
What other majors are available in the General stream? Thanks in advance AzureBlue! :)
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Josh, what do you mean double business major? Like, business major + another major?
thats a good question
I still have the question of am i to pick my major right now before the year has started? :s
The majors in the general stream would be
Accounting, Economics, Finance, Management, and Marketing
that is to say, all possible majors EXCLUDING actuarial studies and business, which have different 'streams'.
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What exactly is a 'Business' major?
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What exactly is a 'Business' major?
http://www.csc.unimelb.edu.au/planning/guide.html
read this
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Ok so say i choose the business stream and study accounting, economics and management. How would i even fit this into the 3 years? isnt the accounting major thing really restrictive in what subjects you must take?
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Yes, if you're doing an accounting major and are pursuing accreditation, but I think the accounting part in a business major is smaller than the accounting part in an accounting major (you wouldn't be able to do the equivalent of a triple major in accounting, economics, management). A business major merely means that in your third year, you study subjects from all 3 disciplines.
ok, i'm confused as to how i would select my subjects then? Or is it better just to do the general stream and do a double major?
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Depends how many areas you want to study in third year. (Although with a double major, you could do 3 accounting subjects in third year, 3 marketing subjects and possibly fit a little bit of management in. Not much difference really)
Ok, so what area(s) of commerce do you really want to do the most?
These decisions are hard, yes...
I really am not sure yet but am interested in accounting, management and marketing.
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I am mainly interested in management and marketing only.. So the General stream then majoring in both is more suitable than the Business stream?
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I am mainly interested in management and marketing only.. So the General stream then majoring in both is more suitable than the Business stream?
yep. I think the business major is called 'the business major' because its a mixture of 3 or more areas.
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In terms of employment which is better?
1. A double major in accounting and marketing
2. A double major in accounting and management
3. A business major consisting of subjects from accounting, marketing and management
TIA
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Doing well, having extra-curricular responsibilities and being attractive. ;)
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Doing well, having extra-curricular responsibilities and being attractive. ;)
well i've got the attractive part covered. haha jks
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So i've decided i'm gonna do the general stream and do a double major in accounting and marketing but i don't get how i would fit any marketing subjects into my first year because accounting is gonna take up 3 of my subjects then there's like 3 compulsory subjects and because i'm choosing accounting doesn't it mean i have to do principles of business law as well?
So i only have one subject remaining which is my breadth subject?
Do i take principles of marketing as breadth? can i actually do that?
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Principles of Marketing is a commerce subject, so you can't take it as breadth.
Principles of Business Law, on the other hand, you can take as breadth.
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Principles of Marketing is a commerce subject, so you can't take it as breadth.
Principles of Business Law, on the other hand, you can take as breadth.
But that means i won't be doing any marketing in first year?
How is that gonna work?
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You have 6 first year subjects to split however you want. If there are 3 compulsory subjects and 3 accounting subjects, you don't have any more room for marketing. If you can fit it in during second year and still complete all your third year prereqs in time, you'll be fine. Otherwise, you don't have enough space.
You can also choose to do one or two more commerce subjects in first year, but that will result in having to do two breadth subjects in third year. That will mean you can only do 6 subjects at third year level and poof, there goes your double major idea.
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So i've decided i'm gonna do the general stream and do a double major in accounting and marketing but i don't get how i would fit any marketing subjects into my first year because accounting is gonna take up 3 of my subjects then there's like 3 compulsory subjects and because i'm choosing accounting doesn't it mean i have to do principles of business law as well?
So i only have one subject remaining which is my breadth subject?
Do i take principles of marketing as breadth? can i actually do that?
Do a summer term subject?
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So i've decided i'm gonna do the general stream and do a double major in accounting and marketing but i don't get how i would fit any marketing subjects into my first year because accounting is gonna take up 3 of my subjects then there's like 3 compulsory subjects and because i'm choosing accounting doesn't it mean i have to do principles of business law as well?
So i only have one subject remaining which is my breadth subject?
Do i take principles of marketing as breadth? can i actually do that?
Do a summer term subject?
Just make sure that it's offered over summer. :) Like finance 1 - doing it now. :)
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Doing summer doesn't add extra subjects to your degree; you lose a subject later if you do one in summer.
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So i've decided i'm gonna do the general stream and do a double major in accounting and marketing but i don't get how i would fit any marketing subjects into my first year because accounting is gonna take up 3 of my subjects then there's like 3 compulsory subjects and because i'm choosing accounting doesn't it mean i have to do principles of business law as well?
So i only have one subject remaining which is my breadth subject?
Do i take principles of marketing as breadth? can i actually do that?
Do a summer term subject?
Just make sure that it's offered over summer. :) Like finance 1 - doing it now. :)
If I do a summer subject, it doesn't add credit but i can take pre-req subjects and its considered, right? Like doing a Level-3 subject during 3rd year summer term to add to my other level-3 subjects?
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You can only do 24 subjects all up.
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Lies, you can do more subjects than 24 if you pay for it.
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Lol, let me just find that $2,700 I have lying around. ;)
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Lies, you can do more subjects than 24 if you pay for it.
It depends on your situation. Either way, if you're affiliated with the Eastern Precinct Student Centre, EPSC (ohmyjosh isn't if he's doing commerce), then you have to fill out a form requesting for "over-enrolment."