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VCE Stuff => VCE English Studies => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE English & EAL => Topic started by: asterio on January 23, 2011, 04:32:21 pm

Title: 25 in English or 30 in ESL
Post by: asterio on January 23, 2011, 04:32:21 pm
I am wandering which one is actually harder?

I am talking about before scale, RAW score
Title: Re: 25 in English or 30 in ESL
Post by: Ghost! on January 23, 2011, 04:33:42 pm
Entirely depends on the person.
Title: Re: 25 in English or 30 in ESL
Post by: werdna on January 23, 2011, 04:38:25 pm
I don't think that's the right kind of mindset to be taking into either subject. I'm sure you'll be able to pull off anything higher than those scores if you just put in the hard yards and hope for the best. I assume you're aiming for that score because you want to meet a prerequisite? If this is the case, I reckon you should just try and do the subjects with no strings attached, and just try to enjoy the course material and get something out of it, rather than just merely meeting the prereq. In saying this, I think generally speaking, English is the easier one to score in. EL has a smaller cohort; I'm not sure if this impacts much though.
Title: Re: 25 in English or 30 in ESL
Post by: shinny on January 23, 2011, 04:41:37 pm
I don't think that's the right kind of mindset to be taking into either subject. I'm sure you'll be able to pull off anything higher than those scores if you just put in the hard yards and hope for the best. I assume you're aiming for that score because you want to meet a prerequisite? If this is the case, I reckon you should just try and do the subjects with no strings attached, and just try to enjoy the course material and get something out of it, rather than just merely meeting the prereq. In saying this, I think generally speaking, English is the easier one to score in. EL has a smaller cohort; I'm not sure if this impacts much though.

He's asking for ESL; not Eng Lang :P I'd imagine a 30 in ESL is easier than a 25 in mainstream English though.
Title: Re: 25 in English or 30 in ESL
Post by: werdna on January 23, 2011, 04:47:54 pm
Oh, my bad. Yeah, if you're eligible for ESL, I'd say go for it. This guy at my school last year just made the eligibility criteria for ESL, and even though he would've done extremely well in mainstream English, he took ESL and scored a 45 in it.
Title: Re: 25 in English or 30 in ESL
Post by: LOVEPHYSICS on January 24, 2011, 11:28:48 pm
^^ Yeah mate go for ESL! Just look at Glen Waverley's cohort 35 over 40s...Jesus :D
Title: Re: 25 in English or 30 in ESL
Post by: Chavi on January 25, 2011, 12:48:44 am
Entirely depends on the person.


i wonder how many times during the year you'll change the predicted SS's is your sig
Title: Re: 25 in English or 30 in ESL
Post by: Ghost! on January 25, 2011, 01:00:33 am
Entirely depends on the person.


i wonder how many times during the year you'll change the predicted SS's is your sig

Not predictions, aspirations.
Title: Re: 25 in English or 30 in ESL
Post by: werdna on January 25, 2011, 01:01:39 am
Entirely depends on the person.


i wonder how many times during the year you'll change the predicted SS's is your sig

Not predictions, aspirations.

Your ATAR would be wayyy higher than 99.10 if you were to fulfil your aspirations. ;)
Title: Re: 25 in English or 30 in ESL
Post by: Ghost! on January 25, 2011, 01:06:18 am
Entirely depends on the person.


i wonder how many times during the year you'll change the predicted SS's is your sig

Not predictions, aspirations.

Your ATAR would be wayyy higher than 99.10 if you were to fulfil your aspirations. ;)

This is true!
Title: Re: 25 in English or 30 in ESL
Post by: Chavi on January 25, 2011, 01:07:13 am
Entirely depends on the person.


i wonder how many times during the year you'll change the predicted SS's is your sig

Not predictions, aspirations.
both unfortunately, tend to disappoint