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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: davyp3 on January 25, 2011, 12:15:06 am

Title: Double Majors
Post by: davyp3 on January 25, 2011, 12:15:06 am
Hi, i'm just doing B.Comm and have some questions about the course.

I know it's possible to do a double major by combining Economics and Finance. What i don't know is how i structure my subjects to cater for this.

I understand that for first year i have to do Intro Micro, QT1 and Intro Macro, leaving 3 electives and 2 breadth components.

I'm considering doing some politics and international studies related subjects for my breadth.  So how do i choose my subjects for first year to cater for the double major?

Thanks
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Raahem on January 25, 2011, 12:35:31 am
for finance i know you have to take FNCE10001 - Finance 1

for your economics what you should do is
find out what 3x level 3 subjects you need to do (thats in your 3rd year)
check the level 2 prerequisites of those subjects (thats what you'll do in 2nd year)
and finally check the level 1 prerequesite of those level 2 subjects, thats what you should enrol in for 2011

for example all 3 finance level 3 subjects required level 2 "Business Finance" so take that in your 2nd year
"Business Finance" requires level 1 "Finance 1" so take that in your 1st year

dammit i hope i made some sense :S haha
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: AccFur on January 25, 2011, 12:56:53 am

"Business Finance" requires level 1 "Finance 1" so take that in your 1st year


or An approved quantitative subject and an approved accounting subject.

Most common is QM1 and ATA

Check the handbook for full subject list
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: m3l.n on January 27, 2011, 09:02:19 pm
I want to add to this...
Would it be a lot harder doing a double major?
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Russ on January 27, 2011, 09:19:44 pm
Unless you pick them in completely unrelated areas, not really, it's just another 4 subjects that you'd be doing anyway
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: medge on January 28, 2011, 12:18:49 am
Required commerce subjects for econ/finance major:

Second year subjects

    * Organisational Behaviour


I'm interested in majoring in econ/finance as well. However I can't see how the subject 'Organisational Behaviour' is needed for this double major...do you mind telling me why it's needed?
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: simonhu81292 on January 28, 2011, 12:27:55 am
it's compulsory for the course...
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: mankay on January 28, 2011, 11:22:50 am
Sorry to sidetrack the main topic, but on a related note:

I know you can't do double majors offically (i.e. get it written on the completion certificate) within the BSc, but say if you complete the requirements of two majors, can you legally claim to have done both majors?
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Russ on January 28, 2011, 11:34:58 am
You can't say something like "I have a double major in Anatomy and Physiology" but when you give your transcript it's obvious that you've studied both areas in depth.

You could say "I majored in Anatomy but also studied Physiology at the same level"
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Russ on January 28, 2011, 12:11:50 pm
Melbourne Model doesn't cater for them, it's ideologically opposed to the idea afaik.

Wouldn't be surprised if they disappear from Commerce in the future
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Edmund on January 28, 2011, 12:20:38 pm
Sorry to sidetrack the main topic, but on a related note:

I know you can't do double majors offically (i.e. get it written on the completion certificate) within the BSc, but say if you complete the requirements of two majors, can you legally claim to have done both majors?
You can't legally claim both majors. If you did subjects for both Anatomy and Physiology, and have nominated Physiology as your major in the study plan, then you can't do honours in Anatomy even though you have completed subjects for it. If this is the case, you can always re-nominate it then apply for your honours project
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: mikee65 on January 28, 2011, 01:02:42 pm
Sorry to sidetrack the main topic, but on a related note:

I know you can't do double majors offically (i.e. get it written on the completion certificate) within the BSc, but say if you complete the requirements of two majors, can you legally claim to have done both majors?
You can't legally claim both majors. If you did subjects for both Anatomy and Physiology, and have nominated Physiology as your major in the study plan, then you can't do honours in Anatomy even though you have completed subjects for it. If this is the case, you can always re-nominate it then apply for your honours project
Edmund do you have a link to the info about the anatomy major?
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: mankay on January 28, 2011, 01:06:43 pm
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You can't legally claim both majors. If you did subjects for both Anatomy and Physiology, and have nominated Physiology as your major in the study plan, then you can't do honours in Anatomy even though you have completed subjects for it. If this is the case, you can always re-nominate it then apply for your honours project

That's frustrating :/ Might have to do a diploma instead. Do you think there's any chance they're re-implement double majors for the BSc?

Also, what do you mean by "re-nominate it"? How does that work after one has graduated?
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Edmund on January 28, 2011, 01:09:47 pm
Sorry to sidetrack the main topic, but on a related note:

I know you can't do double majors offically (i.e. get it written on the completion certificate) within the BSc, but say if you complete the requirements of two majors, can you legally claim to have done both majors?
You can't legally claim both majors. If you did subjects for both Anatomy and Physiology, and have nominated Physiology as your major in the study plan, then you can't do honours in Anatomy even though you have completed subjects for it. If this is the case, you can always re-nominate it then apply for your honours project
Edmund do you have a link to the info about the anatomy major?
http://www.studentcentre.unimelb.edu.au/eastern/course_information/majors/bsc/majors_-_structures_and_contents

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You can't legally claim both majors. If you did subjects for both Anatomy and Physiology, and have nominated Physiology as your major in the study plan, then you can't do honours in Anatomy even though you have completed subjects for it. If this is the case, you can always re-nominate it then apply for your honours project

That's frustrating :/ Might have to do a diploma instead. Do you think there's any chance they're re-implement double majors for the BSc?

Also, what do you mean by "re-nominate it"? How does that work after one has graduated?

You need to let them know before you graduate and they will change it for you. Not sure if this is possible after though
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Russ on January 28, 2011, 02:11:46 pm
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Do you think there's any chance they're re-implement double majors for the BSc?

The official stance is "possibly, we're thinking about it"

Completing a double major doesn't really add a whole lot though
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: mankay on January 28, 2011, 02:58:46 pm
It's not really about adding education (for more prospects), its more about satisfying my two loves :)
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Russ on January 28, 2011, 04:09:44 pm
No, there's no chance it will be back, they just don't want people making a fuss.

It's not really about adding education (for more prospects), its more about satisfying my two loves :)

You can do that regardless of whether you can double major, just take the subjects anyway
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Edmund on January 28, 2011, 04:55:18 pm
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Do you think there's any chance they're re-implement double majors for the BSc?

The official stance is "possibly, we're thinking about it"

Completing a double major doesn't really add a whole lot though
Really? Where did you get this information from?
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Russ on January 28, 2011, 05:04:53 pm
My coordinator when I asked if I'd get credit for microbiology and defence and disease

But he also made it clear that it was really just being considered because a lot of students were asking
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: mankay on January 28, 2011, 06:02:03 pm
No, there's no chance it will be back, they just don't want people making a fuss.

It's not really about adding education (for more prospects), its more about satisfying my two loves :)

You can do that regardless of whether you can double major, just take the subjects anyway

It's a bit more complicated. One of the majors is accredited. Also, i might not get recognised if i don't have the second major (maths) in paper
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Gloamglozer on January 28, 2011, 11:40:44 pm
Melbourne Model doesn't cater for them, it's ideologically opposed to the idea afaik.

Wouldn't be surprised if they disappear from Commerce in the future

I highly doubt it will disappear from commerce.  It's just too popular, especially with these combos:

*Not as popular as the first two.

And the commerce degree, in my opinion, gives a lot of freedom to do a double major.

EDIT:  Sorry, had to remove some unsubstantiated comments.
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Russ on January 29, 2011, 09:07:09 am
Yeah maybe so, I stay away from the commerce kids so I don't know much about that course, I was just commenting generally on the Model
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Gloamglozer on January 29, 2011, 12:39:22 pm
Yeah maybe so, I stay away from the commerce kids so I don't know much about that course, I was just commenting generally on the Model

What's wrong with commerce kids (besides the fact that they have fewer contact hours than us)?
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Russ on January 29, 2011, 12:43:57 pm
I have fewer this semester *smuglook*

But what's wrong with them - I don't know, I'm just prejudiced against anyone studying that field because of how much interest I have in it
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Gloamglozer on January 29, 2011, 12:46:57 pm
I have fewer this semester *smuglook*

But what's wrong with them - I don't know, I'm just prejudiced against anyone studying that field because of how much interest I have in it

:o  Russ, oh noes!  You have fewer...  You're going down a dangerous path, almost mimicking an arts student.

And also, we have a war cos I'm studying in that field.  :P  I kid, I kid.
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: Russ on January 29, 2011, 12:53:47 pm
I attempted to get to a single digit number of hours but failed, I'm not in arts student territory yet :P
Title: Re: Double Majors
Post by: medge on January 30, 2011, 12:20:23 am
it's compulsory for the course...

Ohhh, *facepalm* thanks haha