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Title: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: kakar0t on February 04, 2011, 12:39:26 am
Hey guys,

I intend on completing an Accounting/Finance major and would appreciate some help in my unit selection. Would you guys recommend picking something different for any of the following? Or switching them around?

Semester 1 2011     

    * AFC1000: Principles of accounting and finance
    * ECC1000: Principles of microeconomics
    * ECC1100: Principles of macroeconomics
    * ETC1000: Business and economic statistics

Semester 2 2011    

    * AFC1030: Introduction to financial accounting
    * AFC2140: Corporate finance
    * BTC1110: Business law
    * MGC1010: Introduction to management

Cheers!
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: methodsman on February 04, 2011, 05:10:04 pm
It's recommended you do ECC1000 before you take ECC1100. I suggest swapping MGC1010 in position of ECC1100.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: lynt.br on February 04, 2011, 09:21:39 pm
Also fair warning, from personal experience MGC1010 may make you ragequit commerce.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: riv on February 04, 2011, 09:39:08 pm
Also fair warning, from personal experience MGC1010 may make you ragequit commerce.

What's so bad about MGC1010? Would you mind sharing your personal experience...
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: lynt.br on February 04, 2011, 10:57:03 pm
Also fair warning, from personal experience MGC1010 may make you ragequit commerce.

What's so bad about MGC1010? Would you mind sharing your personal experience...

It's like a dilbert comic without the satire. Have fun memorisng the six steps of decision making.

The subject is basically every negative stereotype about management in one subject. It's entirely theoretical, everything you learn is common sense and you get stupid 2500 word essays (which must be fully cited) on the difference between leaders and managers...
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: _avO on February 04, 2011, 11:11:10 pm
Also fair warning, from personal experience MGC1010 may make you ragequit commerce.

What's so bad about MGC1010? Would you mind sharing your personal experience...

It's like a dilbert comic without the satire. Have fun memorisng the six steps of decision making.

The subject is basically every negative stereotype about management in one subject. It's entirely theoretical, everything you learn is common sense and you get stupid 2500 word essays (which must be fully cited) on the difference between leaders and managers...
Wow.. not looking forward to that! :( sounds like VCE BM though so I doubt it would be very difficult
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: lynt.br on February 04, 2011, 11:33:22 pm
It's not hard at all. It's been my highest mark in uni so far and I only turned up to about 50% of lectures, did barely any study besides skim reading the textbook and about 3-4 days of intensive cramming before the exam. It's just boring as all hell.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on February 04, 2011, 11:38:07 pm
Also fair warning, from personal experience MGC1010 may make you ragequit commerce.

like me.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: kakar0t on February 04, 2011, 11:49:38 pm
Haha, so would you recommend doing marketing instead?
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: TrueTears on February 05, 2011, 01:05:00 am
do micro first then macro in another semester, marketing is shit easy you can do that whenever you want
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: riv on February 05, 2011, 01:06:21 am
From the compulsary commerce subjects, which one is the hardest?
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: Fyrefly on February 05, 2011, 01:22:58 am

Yeah, switch macro and management around.

Push macro back because you sort of need a good foundation in micro to do well in macro; bring management forward because it's an unbelievably, mind-numbingly boring subject where the enthusiasm of a jaffy is needed if you've **any** chance of rocking up to class.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: Fyrefly on February 05, 2011, 01:24:35 am
From the compulsary commerce subjects, which one is the hardest?

The general consensus is Business Law.
My transcript agrees.

I found Business Law to be very interesting but, yes, the most difficult first year subject I've taken.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: kakar0t on February 06, 2011, 10:15:46 pm
What is everyones opinions on this subject:
    * ETC1000: Business and economic statistics

should i do it in sem1? If not, what should i swap it with?
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: methodsman on February 06, 2011, 10:19:57 pm
What is everyones opinions on this subject:
    * ETC1000: Business and economic statistics

should i do it in sem1? If not, what should i swap it with?
Fairly easy. Easy to understand the concepts since you only need the basics of methods probability. I reckon save it for later (maybe sem2) if you're doing marketing, management or microeconomics in sem1.

IMO balance out the easy subjects with the harder ones like acc + finance, bus law, financial accounting (if majoring in accounting).

Btw, I think that financial accounting and business law together in one semester is a lethal combination (unless you're a gun at these subjects)
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: kakar0t on February 06, 2011, 11:00:23 pm
Okay, so this is what its looking like right now:
Semester 1 2011     

    * AFC1000: Principles of accounting and finance
    * ECC1000: Principles of microeconomics
    * ETC1000: Business and economic statistics
    * MGC1010: Introduction to management

Semester 2 2011    

    * AFC1030: Introduction to financial accounting
    * AFC2140: Corporate finance
    * BTC1110: Business law
    * ECC1100: Principles of macroeconomics

What do you guys reckon? Good enough for a healthy load?
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: kakar0t on February 10, 2011, 11:47:24 pm
what do you think about this timetable guys?

Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: taiga on February 10, 2011, 11:59:00 pm
pretty standard :P

Do't like the big gap on wednesday though
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: Streaker on February 11, 2011, 12:53:09 am
Not too shabby...
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: kakar0t on June 07, 2011, 09:50:46 pm
Hey guys,

I need some advice again

Hows this look

Semester 1 2011   (subjects done) 

    * AFC1000: Principles of accounting and finance
    * ECC1000: Principles of microeconomics
    * ETC1000: Business and economic statistics
    * MGC1010: Introduction to management

Semester 2 2011   

    * AFC1030: Introduction to financial accounting
    * AFC2140: Corporate finance
    * BTC1110: Business law
    * ECC1100: Principles of macroeconomics

Should i do marketing instead of bus law?
I'm also interested in ETC1010, should i do that instead of ECC1100?

Cheers
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: methodsman on June 07, 2011, 11:34:28 pm
Hey guys,

I need some advice again

Hows this look

Semester 1 2011   (subjects done)  

    * AFC1000: Principles of accounting and finance
    * ECC1000: Principles of microeconomics
    * ETC1000: Business and economic statistics
    * MGC1010: Introduction to management

Semester 2 2011    

    * AFC1030: Introduction to financial accounting
    * AFC2140: Corporate finance
    * BTC1110: Business law
    * ECC1100: Principles of macroeconomics

Should i do marketing instead of bus law?
I'm also interested in ETC1010, should i do that instead of ECC1100?

Cheers
I did macro this sem. Alot more challenging than micro and more interesting as well. Lots to study for the exam.
What are you planning to major in? If you're not going to major in Accounting, you won't need financial accounting. Leave Bus Law for later on (its pretty hard) and maybe do ETC1010 or MKC1200 in its position.

Your combination of subjects is strange. It looks like you don't know which major you want atm. I suggest trying to clear the core subjects, so that you know what you want to major in.
For example, there's no point in taking Accounting subjects if you are planning on majoring in Marketing.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: Fyrefly on June 08, 2011, 12:22:56 am

What are you majoring in..?
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: kakar0t on June 08, 2011, 10:38:32 am
You guys are right, i'm quite unsure what to major in. The plan originally was accounting/finance so I may as well stick to it.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: Fyrefly on June 08, 2011, 02:54:52 pm
You guys are right, i'm quite unsure what to major in. The plan originally was accounting/finance so I may as well stick to it.

If you don't know what to major in yet, then do all the compulsory 1st year units. That includes business law. You have to do it at some point, and you're better off doing it when you've only got other 1st year units to worry about, rather than more difficult 2nd or 3rd year units.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: methodsman on June 08, 2011, 05:15:42 pm
You guys are right, i'm quite unsure what to major in. The plan originally was accounting/finance so I may as well stick to it.

If you don't know what to major in yet, then do all the compulsory 1st year units. That includes business law. You have to do it at some point, and you're better off doing it when you've only got other 1st year units to worry about, rather than more difficult 2nd or 3rd year units.
Or he/she could combine Bus Law with the next level of first year units. Eg. with ETC1010, ECC1100 + MKC1200  etc.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: kiraxxx on June 08, 2011, 06:26:51 pm
would it be better to do business law in first year, and then micro in second (or the other way around) - fiddling with my timetable right now
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: mystikal on June 08, 2011, 07:10:25 pm
depends which combination of subjects
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: methodsman on June 08, 2011, 10:04:34 pm
would it be better to do business law in first year, and then micro in second (or the other way around) - fiddling with my timetable right now
Usually, its better to do easier subject during 1st semester - you are still settling in, find your way around, making new friends etc. Easier subjects in sem1 just take the pressure off.

From then onwards, balance out the hard with easy subjects. 2 easy, 2 challenging.

TIP: you don't want to be in your 3rd year doing all 3rd year units so maybe save an elective or two for final year.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: kiraxxx on June 10, 2011, 10:54:37 am
depends which combination of subjects


I am doing Intro to Accounting and Finance, Psych B, Professional Writing and debating between Business Law or Micro
(was planing to do Business Stats but it had a big crash with prof writing) 
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: mystikal on June 10, 2011, 12:54:07 pm
depends which combination of subjects


I am doing Intro to Accounting and Finance, Psych B, Professional Writing and debating between Business Law or Micro
(was planing to do Business Stats but it had a big crash with prof writing) 
seeing in your sig that you havent done accounting before i suggest leaving bizz law for later as accounting is kinda annoyin without any background knowledge.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: kakar0t on June 10, 2011, 07:51:00 pm
   * AFC1030: Introduction to financial accounting
   * AFC2140: Corporate finance
   * MKC1200: Principles of Marketing
   * ECC1100: Principles of macroeconomics

How does that look (i've already done AFC1000, ETC1000, MGC1010 and ECC1000)

Reason I don't want to do Bus law is because I might transfer into law, and some lecturer told me you can do a law subject to replace bus law, so i'm keeping that option open. Also, would like to save it for a later year because apparently its a bit harder.

I'm also considering the next Stats (ETC) subject instead of one of the accountings

Feedback appreciated, cheers :)
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: mystikal on June 10, 2011, 11:00:33 pm
   * AFC1030: Introduction to financial accounting
   * AFC2140: Corporate finance
   * MKC1200: Principles of Marketing
   * ECC1100: Principles of macroeconomics

How does that look (i've already done AFC1000, ETC1000, MGC1010 and ECC1000)

Reason I don't want to do Bus law is because I might transfer into law, and some lecturer told me you can do a law subject to replace bus law, so i'm keeping that option open. Also, would like to save it for a later year because apparently its a bit harder.

I'm also considering the next Stats (ETC) subject instead of one of the accountings

Feedback appreciated, cheers :)

pretty solid units balances out well =). which stats unit did u have in mind?
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: mmmmm on June 11, 2011, 07:40:39 pm
Are you allowed to do corporate finance and financial accounting at the same time? I was told that you can't.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: methodsman on June 11, 2011, 08:25:54 pm
Are you allowed to do corporate finance and financial accounting at the same time? I was told that you can't.
True. It says AFC2140 or AFC1030.
http://monash.edu.au/pubs/handbooks/courses/0179.html

AFC1030 => Accounting major
AFC2140 => Finance major
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: mmmmm on June 11, 2011, 09:55:39 pm
Haha I wanna do accounting AND finance as a double major.  When I went in to uni and enroll, the guy said I couldn't.  I asked my friend and she said you could. Can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: Fyrefly on June 11, 2011, 09:57:25 pm
Haha I wanna do accounting AND finance as a double major.  When I went in to uni and enroll, the guy said I couldn't.  I asked my friend and she said you could. Can anyone confirm this?

You're studying BComm? If so, then yes you can double major.
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: mmmmm on June 11, 2011, 10:31:46 pm
Haha I wanna do accounting AND finance as a double major.  When I went in to uni and enroll, the guy said I couldn't.  I asked my friend and she said you could. Can anyone confirm this?

You're studying BComm? If so, then yes you can double major.

I wanna see if I can do corporate finance and financial accounting at the same time. :P
Title: Re: Help me pick Commerce units! (monash)
Post by: methodsman on June 11, 2011, 10:54:36 pm
Haha I wanna do accounting AND finance as a double major.  When I went in to uni and enroll, the guy said I couldn't.  I asked my friend and she said you could. Can anyone confirm this?

You're studying BComm? If so, then yes you can double major.

I wanna see if I can do corporate finance and financial accounting at the same time. :P
Chuck both of them into WES and see what happens. If you don't get an error, then you'll be able to do it.