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Title: How do i become a neurosurgeon????
Post by: zibb3r on February 10, 2011, 10:53:46 pm
Can anyone help??? My career's advisor has no idea and i'm stuck trying to figure it out.  So basically, what courses do i do and which unis????

Thankyou All :) :smitten: :angel: ;D
Title: Re: How do i become a neurosurgeon????
Post by: shinny on February 10, 2011, 10:58:43 pm
Get any medical degree (Monash undergrad/grad, UoM grad and Deakin grad are your Victorian options), and then move on to specialising. I think neurosurgery involves going through a general surgery post-graduate course first (through something like RACS), and then specialising further into Neurosurgery. Basically, be prepared to be studying for a VERY long time. Many end up travelling to specialise anyway so don't fret about which college you go to at a post-graduate level. That'll sort itself out later. First step is getting your first medical degree.
Title: Re: How do i become a neurosurgeon????
Post by: iNerd on February 11, 2011, 07:06:46 am
Get any medical degree (Monash undergrad/grad, UoM grad and Deakin grad are your Victorian options), and then move on to specialising. I think neurosurgery involves going through a general surgery post-graduate course first (through something like RACS), and then specialising further into Neurosurgery. Basically, be prepared to be studying for a VERY long time. Many end up travelling to specialise anyway so don't fret about which college you go to at a post-graduate level. That'll sort itself out later. First step is getting your first medical degree.
Define 'very long time' please and when do you start earning? (after/during intern...and thereafter at ~60 000 approx?...)
I like brains :)
Title: Re: How do i become a neurosurgeon????
Post by: Russ on February 11, 2011, 09:16:46 am
You start earning a full time salary in the first year of your internship, which in Victoria is 56k I think.

Very long time...assuming you do a 5 year undergrad medical degree then a minimum of 12 years. That assumes you get into the specialty immediately after finishing your internship, which you almost certainly won't do so add a couple to that.

Neuro is one of the longest training specialties at 6 years.
Title: Re: How do i become a neurosurgeon????
Post by: Russ on February 11, 2011, 02:19:47 pm
I was actually wrong earlier, you can't get apply until the end of your second PGY so it's 13 years minimum ;)

If it makes you feel better, OMFS requires a medical AND a dental degree so it's much longer.
Title: Re: How do i become a neurosurgeon????
Post by: vexx on February 11, 2011, 02:23:47 pm
Here is some information about neurosurgery if you are interested http://www.mymedicalcareer.com.au/specialties/surgery/neurosurgery/neurosurgery.php it has some information on the workplace & training program too.
Title: Re: How do i become a neurosurgeon????
Post by: iamtom on February 11, 2011, 06:50:09 pm
Get any medical degree (Monash undergrad/grad, UoM grad and Deakin grad are your Victorian options), and then move on to specialising. I think neurosurgery involves going through a general surgery post-graduate course first (through something like RACS), and then specialising further into Neurosurgery. Basically, be prepared to be studying for a VERY long time. Many end up travelling to specialise anyway so don't fret about which college you go to at a post-graduate level. That'll sort itself out later. First step is getting your first medical degree.
Define 'very long time' please and when do you start earning? (after/during intern...and thereafter at ~60 000 approx?...)
I like brains :)

As soon as you graduate medical school. So, first year out of university.

Also keep in mind Surgery is tough to get into - and neurosurgery even tougher. Out of 100 graduates, supposedly only 8 become surgeons and out of 100 surgical residents, 2 of those become neurosurgeons.

That could be heresay, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: How do i become a neurosurgeon????
Post by: pi on February 11, 2011, 07:05:04 pm
Define 'very long time' please and when do you start earning? (after/during intern...and thereafter at ~60 000 approx?...)
I like brains :)

If your worried about money, don't go for med... Commerce or engineering are the ways to go if you want money right out of uni.
Title: Re: How do i become a neurosurgeon????
Post by: iamtom on February 11, 2011, 07:08:22 pm
Don't do Med for the money, either, because you won't get any for a long time.
Title: Re: How do i become a neurosurgeon????
Post by: pi on February 11, 2011, 07:10:40 pm
Don't do Med for the money, either, because you won't get any for a long time.

+1
Title: Re: How do i become a neurosurgeon????
Post by: burbs on February 11, 2011, 07:57:52 pm
I was actually wrong earlier, you can't get apply until the end of your second PGY so it's 13 years minimum ;)

If it makes you feel better, OMFS requires a medical AND a dental degree so it's much longer.

OMFS is where the $$$$$$ are at
Title: Re: How do i become a neurosurgeon????
Post by: Russ on February 12, 2011, 10:16:04 am
So true, but I'm not doing a DDS and an MD and a 6 year specialty :(