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Uni Stuff => General University Discussion and Queries => Topic started by: brendan on June 13, 2008, 05:13:43 pm

Title: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: brendan on June 13, 2008, 05:13:43 pm
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/uni-fees-system-branded-irrational/2008/06/10/1212863646320.html
http://www.dest.gov.au/sectors/higher_education/policy_issues_reviews/reviews/highered_review/default.htm
http://andrewnorton.info/2008/06/our-anamolous-inconsistent-and-irrational-higher-education-system/#more-492
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: BA22 on June 13, 2008, 05:22:21 pm
I always find it funny when i hear arts students doing a song and dance about their "crushing" university HECS debt of about $12,000. There are posters all over monash about demolishing HECS.

I'll walk away with a $43,000 - $51,000 debt. The advantage i suppose for us is that we earn $55,000 as interns, and can start paying that amount back quickly.

Could be far, far worse. A degree at an US university is astronomical, and you have to borrow that money. HECS may be inconsistent, but its better than paying full fee
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: ninwa on June 13, 2008, 08:23:28 pm
I guess arts students do the "song and dance" because they have much lower employment prospects and therefore it's harder for them to repay the debt?

Whereas for you BA22, for example, you're pretty much guaranteed a job after uni
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: BA22 on June 13, 2008, 10:20:05 pm
True, but that's their choice.

It's not as though they're not aware of the reality of their job prospects before they undertake their study

Besides, not all med students are guaranteed a job. Internships are no longer guaranteed in QLD
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: ninwa on June 13, 2008, 11:57:27 pm
That's true. It was our (bad?) choice to become poor arts students :P

With this national shortage of doctors though, I doubt you'll find it hard to find employment when you graduate lol
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: BA22 on June 14, 2008, 12:21:40 am
haha, ninwa, with a LLB attached to that arts degree, you're not going to have as much trouble finding a job as someone with straight arts, plus you've taken a language. That takes you to 3 or 4 you know now?

Ninwa = highly employable
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: ninwa on June 14, 2008, 01:54:07 am
yay :D employable = money = i like money :D
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: brendan on June 14, 2008, 12:49:54 pm
lol well another reason arts students tend to make a song n dance is because they are more likely to have a political streak than say a science student
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: excal on June 16, 2008, 02:23:41 am
But only those with law degrees tend to find themselves in senior levels of politics?

HECS is a great system, we just need to stop the leak of defaulters among other things. In fact, I would propose that the HECS system be utilised in the post-VSU world, where students can pay for their student union fees using it, by ticking a box. I'm of the belief that the disincentive of 'I seriously can't be fucked going up to the office, let alone get the cash in hand' is a very strong one. Just look at online shopping :P
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: BA22 on June 16, 2008, 02:27:07 am
Don't bring SU into this, i seriously CBF

That should seriously be our student union slogan
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: brendan on June 16, 2008, 02:29:49 am
HECS is a great system, we just need to stop the leak of defaulters among other things.

lol leak? it's like gushing out
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: BA22 on June 16, 2008, 02:32:24 am
i know people at uni now who are scheming on ways to avoid paying their hecs debt back, haha
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: excal on June 16, 2008, 02:32:36 am
Fine, gush. Still needs fixing.
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: TrueLight on June 16, 2008, 01:48:26 pm
i know people at uni now who are scheming on ways to avoid paying their hecs debt back, haha

tell me tell me tell me! lolz
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: ninwa on June 16, 2008, 09:09:43 pm
i know people at uni now who are scheming on ways to avoid paying their hecs debt back, haha

tell me tell me tell me! lolz
go overseas and stay there
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: excal on June 17, 2008, 03:47:02 am
OR work at maccas so that you don't breach that payment threshold.
Title: Re: Uni fees system branded irrational
Post by: TrueLight on June 17, 2008, 01:27:22 pm
hahahaha yeah!
that would be my ideal job!

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