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Title: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: Kaille on March 01, 2011, 10:41:20 pm
Hi guys

i've been stuck on this one question for ages!!! it'll probably pretty simple for you guys :P

Q. a sample of ethane, C2H6, contains 1.2 x 1023atoms of carbon.

How many molecules of ethane are present?
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: luken93 on March 01, 2011, 10:50:22 pm
Ok, so as you can see Ethane has 2 carbons present in the molecule

Therefore, for every Ethane Atom there are two carbon atoms

Therefore, for every 1.2 x 10^23 of Carbon atoms, there are 0.6 x 10^23 Ethane Molecules (6.0 x 10^22)
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: HERculina on March 01, 2011, 10:56:58 pm
well 1 mole = 6.02 x 10^25 'particles'

so i think the equation would be:
1.2 x 10^23 atoms of carbon = 2(x moles of ethane molecules times 6.02 x 10^25)

but imma not too sure o.o

EDIT: wait i dot get it too ... D:

Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: Kaille on March 01, 2011, 10:58:40 pm
Thanks for the help guys!! :)
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: Water on March 01, 2011, 10:59:54 pm
well 1 mole = 6.02 x 10^25 'particles'


Correction:


6.02 x 10^23 particles = avogrados number = 1 mole xD


To Find the mole . you have atoms of  (Sample) / nA     = mol
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: Hutchoo on March 01, 2011, 11:04:37 pm
I wish I was doing this type of chemistry at the moment.
Unit 1 sucks. If I get questioned on "WHO wuz da main perzon dat ENV3NteD dah P3rioDIk tabl3?????" I might slap someone.
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: dooodyo on March 01, 2011, 11:05:47 pm
nah Luken93 is correct  ;D
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: HERculina on March 01, 2011, 11:07:26 pm
I wish I was doing this type of chemistry at the moment.
Unit 1 sucks. If I get questioned on "WHO wuz da main perzon dat ENV3NteD dah P3rioDIk tabl3?????" I might slap someone.


isnt the mole in unit 1 chem? xD
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: Hutchoo on March 01, 2011, 11:09:40 pm
Yeah.. but we haven't done focused on any fun chemistry..
5 weeks of pain and boringness. D:
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: Water on March 01, 2011, 11:10:38 pm
I wish I was doing this type of chemistry at the moment.
Unit 1 sucks. If I get questioned on "WHO wuz da main perzon dat ENV3NteD dah P3rioDIk tabl3?????" I might slap someone.


isnt the mole in unit 1 chem? xD


Just some history for you guys, might be inaccurate cause i watched it on a documentry, Lavoiser was a tax collector, and a chemist,  causing the downfall of the Monarchy and uprising of the French Revolution through excessive taxing.

Yes, you heard me, The Father of Chemistry was a Tax Collector.
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: HERculina on March 01, 2011, 11:11:32 pm
Yeah.. but we haven't done focused on any fun chemistry..
5 weeks of pain and boringness. D:

D: i feel for you.
 my chem teacher didnt like the history part anyway, so she tried to rush it :)
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: Kaille on March 01, 2011, 11:16:42 pm
sorry, i've got another question.

What is the total mass of ethane?
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: luken93 on March 01, 2011, 11:28:52 pm
sorry, i've got another question.

What is the total mass of ethane?
Is this the same question or do you mean Molar Mass (You probs don't know what this is yet...)
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: luken93 on March 01, 2011, 11:30:12 pm
Just remember all you year 11's, if you feel like you don't understand the mole ITS COMPLETELY NORMAL!!!
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: nacho on March 01, 2011, 11:56:12 pm
All i'll say is,
when a question asks for amount of something, your answer will be in mol
What is a mol?  A mol is the number of atoms contained 12.0 grams of Carbon-12. This number is 6.02 x 10^23 - a very large number.
The molar mass of something, for example, hydrogen is the mass of 1 mol of that substance. I.e, 6.02 x 10^23 (or 1 mole) of hydrogen atoms will weight approximately 1 gram (as given in your periodic table.)

With this knowledge, you can work out the mass, or amount in mol of anything, given you have at least 1 or the other. If you can make a logical link between the formulas and how they work, you are well on your way to acing stoich.

For example, the formula for working out mols is:

Why?
See how it works:
1 mol of hydrogen weighs 1 gram,
according to the periodic table the molar mass of hydrogen is 1 gram per mol, that is, if we have 1 mol of hydrogen atoms and weigh it, it will = roughly a gram.


So, if we have 2 grams of hydrogen, how many mol of hydrogen will we have? using , where m= 2 and = 1, we will have 2/1 = 2 mols of hydrogen.
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: schnappy on March 02, 2011, 12:00:20 am
Edit: Wow this post was wrong, I won't post at midnight so often.
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: Mao on March 02, 2011, 01:57:47 pm
All i'll say is,
when a question asks for amount of something, your answer will be in mol
What is a mol?  A mol is the number of atoms contained 12.0 grams of Carbon-12. This number is 6.02 x 10^23 - a very large number.
The molar mass of something, for example, hydrogen is the mass of 1 mol of that substance. I.e, 6.02 x 10^23 (or 1 mole) of hydrogen atoms will weight approximately 1 gram (as given in your periodic table.)

With this knowledge, you can work out the mass, or amount in mol of anything, given you have at least 1 or the other. If you can make a logical link between the formulas and how they work, you are well on your way to acing stoich.

For example, the formula for working out mols is:

Why?
See how it works:
1 mol of hydrogen weighs 1 gram,
according to the periodic table the molar mass of hydrogen is 1 gram per mol, that is, if we have 1 mol of hydrogen atoms and weigh it, it will = roughly a gram.


So, if we have 2 grams of hydrogen, how many mol of hydrogen will we have? using , where m= 2 and = 1, we will have 2/1 = 2 mols of hydrogen.

A much easier way to think about it: Mr is given by g/mol, thus

(similar with concentration in mol/L, thus , molar volume (STP or SLC) is given by L/mol, thus , etc)
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: Kaille on March 02, 2011, 06:06:46 pm
sorry, i've got another question.

What is the total mass of ethane?
Is this the same question or do you mean Molar Mass (You probs don't know what this is yet...)
like the mass in grams. i figured it out and i get 3.0 grams. i divided the number of ethane molecules by avogadro's number.

thanks for the help guys :)
Title: Re: mole help for yr 11?
Post by: Dream-Storm on March 08, 2011, 05:11:58 pm
Well, that has helped me a fair bit. I'm struggling to recognise the formulas needed to work out the molar mass and stuff. My brain erally isn't in it at the moment...