ATAR Notes: Forum
Archived Discussion => Other => Victoria => Moderators => Topic started by: burbs on March 14, 2011, 05:00:46 pm
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Had a chat with enwiabe, seems that this will definitely go ahead. Thoughts?
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Look, at this point, it's a bit difficult to say when but I'd estimate around July. There are some legal issues to work through and I have to take out a loan to finance this, but I'd say with 90% confidence this is going ahead.
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Have you determined whether we'll be folded into them as a subforum or if we'll keep equal status?
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I still think this is a shit idea.
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FFS Ninwa, are you against the idea, or against one of my ideas actually doing well? Just because I'm new doesn't mean my ideas don't have merit!
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yeah sure fraternise with the enemy that's real smart
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Look, at this point, it's a bit difficult to say when but I'd estimate around July. There are some legal issues to work through and I have to take out a loan to finance this, but I'd say with 90% confidence this is going ahead.
If the loan is too large, you could always do what's been discussed and implement a cover charge for use of the notes or charge $.01 per post on the forums
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Look, at this point, it's a bit difficult to say when but I'd estimate around July. There are some legal issues to work through and I have to take out a loan to finance this, but I'd say with 90% confidence this is going ahead.
If the loan is too large, you could always do what's been discussed and implement a cover charge for use of the notes or charge $.01 per post on the forums
Go for cover charge, .01 per post is just outrageous. Not so much the price but that you have to pay. A once-off fee is also easier because I doubt members will have access to a credit card etc.
What about my other idea, to have an IQ test that members have to pass to be granted access to VN, so we don't just have ANYONE coming in? It would ensure that the advice you get is generally better, would boost the average of the forum and allow for better networking to happen. Or at least have like a second area where the smarter people can post?
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Well if you've made 1219 posts (as of this post) that's only $12 for a lot of enjoyment. And it might cut down on some of the spam problems we've been having. But I guess it's only really important if we need to raise the money (someone think of a PR campaign to explain it though, maybe something about non core promises...)
I don't think there's a need to test people on entry, but segregating off some of the riff raff is a good idea.
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I was thinking that we could try and implement a system where you need to pay to use respect as well? That way it would make us a lot of money, and also solve the whole issue of everyone negging certain members.
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I still think this is a shit idea.
Count me in on this one. So reputation wise, what does that make us? A bunch of balls sucking ass kissers?
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i was thinking what we could do, is make every member of atar notes pay, and let BOS come here for free since really, they dont know what a decent good forum/site is and we should let them settle in first. then charge them 50% of what we charge everyone else.
i mean really, this place has better results after exams than BOS. so we the fortunate ones should pay.
i reakon $20 per year is a great idea.
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Btw guys, if we do start some kind of membership program, obviously you guys don't have to pay because you're mods :) but it's probably best to keep that quiet, I can just imagine the outrage -_-
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Look, at this point, it's a bit difficult to say when but I'd estimate around July. There are some legal issues to work through and I have to take out a loan to finance this, but I'd say with 90% confidence this is going ahead.
If the loan is too large, you could always do what's been discussed and implement a cover charge for use of the notes or charge $.01 per post on the forums
Go for cover charge, .01 per post is just outrageous. Not so much the price but that you have to pay. A once-off fee is also easier because I doubt members will have access to a credit card etc.
What about my other idea, to have an IQ test that members have to pass to be granted access to VN, so we don't just have ANYONE coming in? It would ensure that the advice you get is generally better, would boost the average of the forum and allow for better networking to happen. Or at least have like a second area where the smarter people can post?
IQ tests are not very good/valid. http://books.google.com.au/books?id=x_qbMO-6ijkC&dq=iq+tests+completely+made+up&source=gbs_navlinks_s
Perhaps we should make up our own standardised test? An extra source of income could be providing resources/tuition for students to excel on those tests. A good market strategy is one that sustains itself.
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Come on guys, let's be serious about this. Any sort of intelligence test is pointless if the person can't communicate; I think we should institutionalise VN properly. Enwiabe talked about "the revolution", and really, the next step is to make VN a real centre for secondary education, at both a state level and a national level. Let's have screenings for all new members - make them write a personal statement, ensuring that they are both competent and community-conscious in their activity. The last thing we need is more leechers coming here just to steal exam papers - let's make this a REAL learning community...
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That's true and we could always merge Eriny's suggestion in and start offering editing services for personal statements before accepting them?
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Come on guys, let's be serious about this. Any sort of intelligence test is pointless if the person can't communicate; I think we should institutionalise VN properly. Enwiabe talked about "the revolution", and really, the next step is to make VN a real centre for secondary education, at both a state level and a national level. Let's have screenings for all new members - make them write a personal statement, ensuring that they are both competent and community-conscious in their activity. The last thing we need is more leechers coming here just to steal exam papers - let's make this a REAL learning community...
Sorry if I'm jumping in the middle of this discussion.
I'm not sure that the personal statement idea would work. What would it entail?
From personal experience, attempting to screen potential users can be a little off-putting. You would also have to consider the extra time needed work through statements.
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Come on guys, let's be serious about this. Any sort of intelligence test is pointless if the person can't communicate; I think we should institutionalise VN properly. Enwiabe talked about "the revolution", and really, the next step is to make VN a real centre for secondary education, at both a state level and a national level. Let's have screenings for all new members - make them write a personal statement, ensuring that they are both competent and community-conscious in their activity. The last thing we need is more leechers coming here just to steal exam papers - let's make this a REAL learning community...
Sorry if I'm jumping in the middle of this discussion.
I'm not sure that the personal statement idea would work. What would it entail?
From personal experience, attempting to screen potential users can be a little off-putting. You would also have to consider the extra time needed work through statements.
If they can't deal with it, too bad - they don't deserve to use the site. Vice-versa applies - we're not hiring mods unless they're willing to put in. We need to take a stronger line on making AN a real resource...
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I actually like EZ's idea, except it may be pretty annoying having to go through so many applications and deciding to approve them or not. Maybe us mods can help with that process?
If you need money why not increase the advertisements for those with a lower number of posts (if that's possible)? I know MSO does (or did) something similar.
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We could probably get some targeted ads if the $foremails deal goes through, which would be a higher income for us!
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Why can't we just have the porn ads again, like back when we were FSN? They bring in a lot of money, and I doubt anyone would complain... there are no girls on the internet, and most guys like porn, don't they? I mean... if anyone does complain, just blame it on google ads... *shrugs*
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Why can't we just have the porn ads again, like back when we were FSN? They bring in a lot of money, and I doubt anyone would complain... there are no girls on the internet, and most guys like porn, don't they? I mean... if anyone does complain, just blame it on google ads... *shrugs*
Those ads annoy me a lot. Especially the local girls one. I mean, Ellie is in beaconsfield one night, bundoora the next. WHERE THE HELL IS SHE ACTUALLY FROM?
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Why can't we just have the porn ads again, like back when we were FSN? They bring in a lot of money, and I doubt anyone would complain... there are no girls on the internet, and most guys like porn, don't they? I mean... if anyone does complain, just blame it on google ads... *shrugs*
Those ads annoy me a lot. Especially the local girls one. I mean, Ellie is in beaconsfield one night, bundoora the next. WHERE THE HELL IS SHE ACTUALLY FROM?
*Shakes head sadly*