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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: werdna on April 20, 2011, 05:03:37 pm
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Just wondering what your honest opinion is - how hard is it to get a 45+ study score?
If I don't get at least a 45 in Eng, Legal and Revs, I'm kind of doomed ;D and will have no chances of a 98.. so what is the real level of difficulty in getting that kind of score?
Latin will be the godsend though, hoping for a 30 in it which will go to 47/48 (even though that in itself will be hard due to the competitiveness), anything higher than 30 for it would be awesome. :P
So honest opinion, tell it like it is, how hard is it to get a 45+? Or even a 40+?
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This is extremely subjective and answers are going to vary.
I found it easy to get my legal score but on the other hand I felt that I worked hard for my English score. It really depends on your interest in the subject. There will be people that found getting 40+ in methods easy while I struggled to get my score in it.
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Though not a useful post, I share your sentiments. Lacking scale up subjects like Spesh etc, and not doing year 12 school subjects last year that played with strengths .. getting a High ENTER is possibly much more difficult >;.
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Its not hard if you like the subject a lot and as long as you do enough practice exams
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Depends what you're good at.
Some people will work really hard all year and not even scrape a 40. Others will study a little bit, but understand the concepts extremely well and get a 50.
Of course, it does come down to having luck on exam day. So it's pretty much impossible to say how "easy" a 45+ is, when there are so many factors to consider.
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Well a 45+ means that you're in the top 3% of the state doing that subject which is a very impressive feat by all means. You've got to have a working ethic that personally works for you sorted out regardless of whether you like what you're working on or not. Also, consistency is the key throughout the year through the workload and through the SACs. You also need an endless strive to perfectly nail answers in your practice exams; never be 100% satisfied with what you're offering and always seek to improve it.
It might sound ridiculously anal and may seem to just reduce the fun in learning a subject, but that's the way most people go in achieving 45+ imo (although I don't personally see how constantly working on a subject you like would reduce the fun in learning that subject). Whether or not you're the type of person who has the ability to get 45+ or not isn't something you can control. All you can do is to, to put it in cliche terms, try your best.
Tl;dr: Self discipline, a perfect balance between fun, socialising and hard work, and a bit of luck throughout the year and for the exam. :)
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Consistent work and practice through the year definitely worked for me. I did an embarrassingly tiny amount of work during SWOTVAC but it was alright because I worked during the year.
I really only used SWOTVAC for memorising details like dates and quotes (but only the more obscure ones that I probably didn't even use anyway - the crucial ones were committed to memory long before SWOTVAC) and to perfect my timing.
Make sure you're able to look at a question and by reflex write a 9-10mark response straightaway.
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Thanks for all your replies everyone! Really appreciate your help/advice. I'll definitely be cutting it fine this year.. it's at the very least, two 45+, one 40+ and one 30 (for Latin) or I'm screwed hahah ;D
Just remember getting lower than 98 is by no means the end of the world. If you want to do commerce/law you'll find a way.
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its all about consistent work, and making sure you understand things thoroughly. With subjects like revs, legal and bm i hear that its all memorizing so i guess its proportional to how much work you put in. english wise, i guess its just maintaining a good understanding of texts and not dropping off your study, because its really easy to just not study in english!
im year 12 as well though so this is just from my experience last year.
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depends if yal got the brains ya knowwww?
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Its not overly difficult, but often you can have the difference between a low-mid 40 score and a high 40 score on the day of the exam.
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40+ is hard work,
45+ could be luck?
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Do you have to be rank1 for sacs (coupled with a high exam score) in a particular subject in order to get 45+?? or do those at rank2 or rank3 still have a chance of pulling off a 45+??
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just remember, talent gets you to 40, hard work gets you to 45 and after that its all luck
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just remember, talent gets you to 40, hard work gets you to 45 and after that its all luck
I agree with this. If I put as much work as I do in spesh this year for methods last year, I don't know how I couldn't have gotten 45+...
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45 isn't that hard to get in BM :P
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As a great man once said, "Hard work pays." :)
EDIT: I realised my post may not be very inspiring. But seriously, you put in the hard yards, you will be rewarded.
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Do you have to be rank1 for sacs (coupled with a high exam score) in a particular subject in order to get 45+?? or do those at rank2 or rank3 still have a chance of pulling off a 45+??
Pretty sure you can.. I've heard of people ranked even 10 pull off a 45 or thereabouts. But yeah, decent SACs and excellent exam should do you good!
I go to MacRob, which probably changes things with ranking a little, but I was definitely not rank #1 in either of my 3/4's last year.
I was at best rank #2 in Indo (rank #1 got a 45 a there were girls who got 46-49 who were ranked below us).
I have no idea where I was ranked in Revs, but I'd say somewhere in the middle. I got the 2nd highest study score in my school (the best study score was a 47) for Revs, in a subject cohort of about 45-50 students.
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I found methods 1+2 harder than getting a 40 in bio... If I put
more effort in, 45 wasn't that far away.
Ultimately, getting a good SS depends on how much effort and commitment you put in. I think you'll easily get 45 in english btw. :)
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@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?
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@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?
Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know. :)
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@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?
Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know. :)
Wow. So that's why I got 47 then :P
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@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?
Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know. :)
If MacRob did it we wouldn't get any.
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@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?
Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know. :)
If MacRob did it we wouldn't get any.
Exactly my thoughts. You probably wouldn't have gotten a premiers award if they did it...
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@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?
Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know. :)
If MacRob did it we wouldn't get any.
Exactly my thoughts. You probably wouldn't have gotten a premiers award if they did it...
Hehehe.
TBH, I wouldn't say luck hold that massive a part. Yes it is important, but not to the extent of 45-50.
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Do you have to be rank1 for sacs (coupled with a high exam score) in a particular subject in order to get 45+?? or do those at rank2 or rank3 still have a chance of pulling off a 45+??
Nope, know someone who was rank two and got a 49 :)
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Do you have to be rank1 for sacs (coupled with a high exam score) in a particular subject in order to get 45+?? or do those at rank2 or rank3 still have a chance of pulling off a 45+??
Nope, know someone who was rank two and got a 49 :)
I was like rank 3-4.
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@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?
Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know. :)
If MacRob did it we wouldn't get any.
Exactly my thoughts. You probably wouldn't have gotten a premiers award if they did it...
Hehehe.
TBH, I wouldn't say luck hold that massive a part. Yes it is important, but not to the extent of 45-50.
I would definitely say so - for almost all subjects, but particularly English.
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@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?
Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know. :)
If MacRob did it we wouldn't get any.
Exactly my thoughts. You probably wouldn't have gotten a premiers award if they did it...
Hehehe.
TBH, I wouldn't say luck hold that massive a part. Yes it is important, but not to the extent of 45-50.
I would definitely say so - for almost all subjects, but particularly English.
IDK man, its not coincedence that the people who get 48+ in subjects were those who put the extra mile in. I think as far as luck's role, its more when you get bad luck that you get affected. Unless that's what you all meant the whole time.
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@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?
Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know. :)
If MacRob did it we wouldn't get any.
Exactly my thoughts. You probably wouldn't have gotten a premiers award if they did it...
Hehehe.
TBH, I wouldn't say luck hold that massive a part. Yes it is important, but not to the extent of 45-50.
hmmm, maybe, maybe not. In the end, anyone that gets 45+ should be proud of what they get, because you are in the top 2% of everyone doing the subject!
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@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?
Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know. :)
If MacRob did it we wouldn't get any.
Exactly my thoughts. You probably wouldn't have gotten a premiers award if they did it...
Hehehe.
TBH, I wouldn't say luck hold that massive a part. Yes it is important, but not to the extent of 45-50.
I would definitely say so - for almost all subjects, but particularly English.
IDK man, its not coincedence that the people who get 48+ in subjects were those who put the extra mile in. I think as far as luck's role, its more when you get bad luck that you get affected. Unless that's what you all meant the whole time.
ouch, is that because I got 47 I didn't put the extra mile in? I'm offended man :(
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@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?
Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know. :)
If MacRob did it we wouldn't get any.
Exactly my thoughts. You probably wouldn't have gotten a premiers award if they did it...
Hehehe.
TBH, I wouldn't say luck hold that massive a part. Yes it is important, but not to the extent of 45-50.
I would definitely say so - for almost all subjects, but particularly English.
IDK man, its not coincedence that the people who get 48+ in subjects were those who put the extra mile in. I think as far as luck's role, its more when you get bad luck that you get affected. Unless that's what you all meant the whole time.
well to me luck is anything that can't be controlled, eg. the time of the exam (some people's brain function better during morning and such) or anything that may affect your mood. And yes i think it can make you go from a 50 to a 45
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@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?
Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know. :)
If MacRob did it we wouldn't get any.
Exactly my thoughts. You probably wouldn't have gotten a premiers award if they did it...
Hehehe.
TBH, I wouldn't say luck hold that massive a part. Yes it is important, but not to the extent of 45-50.
I would definitely say so - for almost all subjects, but particularly English.
IDK man, its not coincedence that the people who get 48+ in subjects were those who put the extra mile in. I think as far as luck's role, its more when you get bad luck that you get affected. Unless that's what you all meant the whole time.
ouch, is that because I got 47 I didn't put the extra mile in? I'm offended man :(
You got the bad luck I was talking about. (But no that's not what I meant)
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I reckon generally what you are saying is true - people make their own destiny and study score - but you sort of only have to look at some VNers to see how "luck" can play its role. For example, EZ received 45 in English when we all rate him extremely highly and I'm sure he put in a lot of work - and quality work. I consider myself fortunate to have had a great exam day for English - I came out of that exam knowing that I did really well. Conversely, I was disappointed with PE and think I deserved more - either my own failure with exam-pressure or poor marking / etc.
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When I came out of the English exam I thought I got somewhere between 38 and 50. That's the level to which I wasn't able to quantify my efforts any further. If I can't figure out what I'm going to get after putting in the work, how can you figure out how much work you have to put in in order to get a certain score?
Whilst that may not apply to all subjects equally, a lot depends on how you go on the day.
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wat about if you're in a low-achieving school that only gets one, two or sometimes no one over 99. do you have to be ranked first to get over 45 for a subject? :-\
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I was gonna say. And yeah, it wasn't an exam that greatly suited what I wanted/intended, considering I got a 60/60 on the previous year's exam 2 days before from an examiner...
Another example, the cone of death on methods. Killed a lot of people who may have done better, ultimately you have to be the best to get the mark, but VCE is about applying what you've been prepared for, not being sprung upon.
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I reckon generally what you are saying is true - people make their own destiny and study score - but you sort of only have to look at some VNers to see how "luck" can play its role. For example, EZ received 45 in English when we all rate him extremely highly and I'm sure he put in a lot of work - and quality work. I consider myself fortunate to have had a great exam day for English - I came out of that exam knowing that I did really well. Conversely, I was disappointed with PE and think I deserved more - either my own failure with exam-pressure or poor marking / etc.
Absolutely. I just think its more bad luck that affects people, and good luck rarely.
wat about if you're in a low-achieving school that only gets one, two or sometimes no one over 99. do you have to be ranked first to get over 45 for a subject? :-\
Probably safe, but it depends more on that subject than the ATAR scores.
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wat about if you're in a low-achieving school that only gets one, two or sometimes no one over 99. do you have to be ranked first to get over 45 for a subject? :-\
My school is the same... I think the people above you in SACs have to ace the exam as well... Though I've not known anyone from my school to get 45+ if they were less than rank #1...
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I reckon generally what you are saying is true - people make their own destiny and study score - but you sort of only have to look at some VNers to see how "luck" can play its role. For example, EZ received 45 in English when we all rate him extremely highly and I'm sure he put in a lot of work - and quality work. I consider myself fortunate to have had a great exam day for English - I came out of that exam knowing that I did really well. Conversely, I was disappointed with PE and think I deserved more - either my own failure with exam-pressure or poor marking / etc.
Absolutely. I just think its more bad luck that affects people, and good luck rarely.
wat about if you're in a low-achieving school that only gets one, two or sometimes no one over 99. do you have to be ranked first to get over 45 for a subject? :-\
Probably safe, but it depends more on that subject than the ATAR scores.
Sweet, I agree with that too :)
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I reckon generally what you are saying is true - people make their own destiny and study score - but you sort of only have to look at some VNers to see how "luck" can play its role. For example, EZ received 45 in English when we all rate him extremely highly and I'm sure he put in a lot of work - and quality work. I consider myself fortunate to have had a great exam day for English - I came out of that exam knowing that I did really well. Conversely, I was disappointed with PE and think I deserved more - either my own failure with exam-pressure or poor marking / etc.
Absolutely. I just think its more bad luck that affects people, and good luck rarely.
wat about if you're in a low-achieving school that only gets one, two or sometimes no one over 99. do you have to be ranked first to get over 45 for a subject? :-\
Probably safe, but it depends more on that subject than the ATAR scores.
Sweet, I agree with that too :)
I wasn't trying to argue as much as trying to clarify what you meant!
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Haha yeah, I'm just confirming that we're on the same path :)
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Haha yeah, I'm just confirming that we're on the same path :)
That's probably a good thing after some of the controversies tonight...
(dw mods, im not delving into it :) )
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Might be going off on a little tangent here, but I personally don't see what the hype over MacRob is about (and Melbourne High). Maybe it was made as a joke, but to say that you won't have a chance because MacRob doesn't offer the subject.. = =''
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Might be going off on a little tangent here, but I personally don't see what the hype over MacRob is about (and Melbourne High). Maybe it was made as a joke, but to say that you won't have a chance because MacRob doesn't offer the subject.. = =''
It's a bit of a running joke at MHS.
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Might be going off on a little tangent here, but I personally don't see what the hype over MacRob is about (and Melbourne High). Maybe it was made as a joke, but to say that you won't have a chance because MacRob doesn't offer the subject.. = =''
Haha yeah, it's just that MacRob is the highest achieving score we have "a hope" at doing well, because they are a formidable force in basically every other subject :)
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wat about if you're in a low-achieving school that only gets one, two or sometimes no one over 99. do you have to be ranked first to get over 45 for a subject? :-\
That really isn't a low-achieving school.... try a school that barely gets people to have atars of over 90, with a cohort that's not even that small.
:)
It would only depend on how big the margin is between Rank1 and 2- if there is a massive difference, then yes it's POSSIBLE it might affect your study score. As m@tty about what unfortunately happened to him :(
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Might be going off on a little tangent here, but I personally don't see what the hype over MacRob is about (and Melbourne High). Maybe it was made as a joke, but to say that you won't have a chance because MacRob doesn't offer the subject.. = =''
It's a bit of a running joke at MHS.
Ah okay.
Might be going off on a little tangent here, but I personally don't see what the hype over MacRob is about (and Melbourne High). Maybe it was made as a joke, but to say that you won't have a chance because MacRob doesn't offer the subject.. = =''
Haha yeah, it's just that MacRob is the highest achieving score we have "a hope" at doing well, because they are a formidable force in basically every other subject :)
That is true, but I just don't like the hype surrounding MacRob (no offence to any girls from there).
wat about if you're in a low-achieving school that only gets one, two or sometimes no one over 99. do you have to be ranked first to get over 45 for a subject? :-\
That really isn't a low-achieving school.... try a school that barely gets people to have atars of over 90, with a cohort that's not even that small.
:)
It would only depend on how big the margin is between Rank1 and 2- if there is a massive difference, then yes it's POSSIBLE it might affect your study score. As m@tty about what unfortunately happened to him :(
It's the rank that matters, not the mark between the first and second rank (although if there is such a difference, it usually indicates that the rank #1 is likely to score the highest on the exam).
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I reckon generally what you are saying is true - people make their own destiny and study score - but you sort of only have to look at some VNers to see how "luck" can play its role. For example, EZ received 45 in English when we all rate him extremely highly and I'm sure he put in a lot of work - and quality work. I consider myself fortunate to have had a great exam day for English - I came out of that exam knowing that I did really well. Conversely, I was disappointed with PE and think I deserved more - either my own failure with exam-pressure or poor marking / etc.
Awww shucks. You deserved your score though - judging from our joint seminar, you know your stuff!
Anyway, just generally speaking, I would definitely say that anything 45+ (or even in the 40s+) is dependent to some extent on luck. There are kids I know who got 50s in their subjects who would profess themselves to being vastly inferior skill-wise to those who got 41/42 or so - unfortunately, the exam-based nature of the system just results in situations such as this.
With that said, I'm inclined to agree with Burbs in saying that usually performance-enhancing good luck is rare - it's more often the case that the top students will be brought down by their bad luck.
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With that said, I'm inclined to agree with Burbs in saying that usually performance-enhancing good luck is rare - it's more often the case that the top students will be brought down by their bad luck.
That ^ :)
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Do you have to be rank1 for sacs (coupled with a high exam score) in a particular subject in order to get 45+?? or do those at rank2 or rank3 still have a chance of pulling off a 45+??
This depends on the strength of your cohort, at my school more than 10 kids who had 45+ in methods last year, including a 50 and two 49s who weren't within top 3 rank.
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wat about if you're in a low-achieving school that only gets one, two or sometimes no one over 99. do you have to be ranked first to get over 45 for a subject? :-\
That really isn't a low-achieving school.... try a school that barely gets people to have atars of over 90, with a cohort that's not even that small.
:)
It would only depend on how big the margin is between Rank1 and 2- if there is a massive difference, then yes it's POSSIBLE it might affect your study score. As m@tty about what unfortunately happened to him :(
Tbh you just need to be ranked 1st in a inferior school to achieve a 45+. IN my school, 99's+ occurs like once in a blue moon ...every year theres under 10 people out of a cohort of around 250 to achieve a 90+.
I've got my 2 45+ from subjects where i was ranked 1st. In spesh, i was ranked 4th/5th out of 30 or so students. I've got my statements of marks back for it and i've got a high A+ for paper 1, and mid-high A+ for paper 2, which only translated to a 40 SS, since my Sac was marked from a A -> B+..... Those guys above me didn't carry and none of them got 40+ :-[
But yeah if you achieve rank 1, it's quite doable. Anywhere under rank 1-2 in a lower achieving school makes it alot tougher, almost like an exponential curve to achieve 45+
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Cwell High is one of the better non - selective public schools though...
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Though not a useful post, I share your sentiments. Lacking scale up subjects like Spesh etc, and not doing year 12 school subjects last year that played with strengths .. getting a High ENTER is possibly much more difficult >;.
Using my own score as an example, I disagree. I only did five 3/4 subjects and only got 45 or above in two of them, and still got a 97. I assume I'm not the exception.
With regard to getting a 45+ SS, as has been said already, different subjects require more or less work for these scores, simply based on numbers. You're up against 45,000 kids to get above 45 in English as opposed to being against say 12,000 in Business Management. That's why I think English scores above 40 should be scales up.
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Leaving it mark down is the best way to keep VCE a fairer system.
To those who are humanity based students, they will be rewarded given that they are skilled in the English Language.
With the science/maths kids, well, they already have the major scale up from maths/science areas.
If the English system, is scaled up, it's only going to give an unfair advantage to science/maths kids along with their +5, +7 bonus subjects and put humanities students at a disadvantage in the long run.
In this sense, with the scale up, the VCE will be further dominated by science/maths sector more so than the humanities side. While your at it, if English is Scaled up, Literature should be scaled up further in proportion :)
PS: Just realized I went off subject, sorry xD I"ll stop here~~~~~
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Though not a useful post, I share your sentiments. Lacking scale up subjects like Spesh etc, and not doing year 12 school subjects last year that played with strengths .. getting a High ENTER is possibly much more difficult >;.
Using my own score as an example, I disagree. I only did five 3/4 subjects and only got 45 or above in two of them, and still got a 97. I assume I'm not the exception.
With regard to getting a 45+ SS, as has been said already, different subjects require more or less work for these scores, simply based on numbers. You're up against 45,000 kids to get above 45 in English as opposed to being against say 12,000 in Business Management. That's why I think English scores above 40 should be scales up.
scaling does not directly reflect the difficultyof ths subject (smarter students don't necessarily always pick spesh/methods/latin etc) or the number of the cohort, rather the strength of the cohort. 45K English students means that there are a lot more people who get 45SS (Top 2.5%) in english than they do in busman. It shouldn't be scaled up or down, fine as it is as the cohort isn't brilliant, yet nor is it terrible.
Scaling subjects shouldn't make a difference, its' just whatever suits you.
Some people would find it easy to get 40+ for humanities subjects, whilst impossible for math/sci subjects.
Pretty evident in some of the people's scores lying around here
Seeing that Werdna is a humanities type person, he has picked the best subjects for himself
Edit: Lol didn't see water's post, don't judge me.
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@werdna, to be honest I think you could get over 45 for both Legal Studies and English from what I've seen of you on this forum, and talking to you in general. Just to reiterate what others have said, if you consistently put in the work and put in that extra effort, then really anything is possible. It really comes back to the individual, and picking subjects that plays to one's strengths. My thinking is that if you choose subjects which you enjoy doing, you'll be more motivated to study and as a consequence, the better your results will be. Doing subjects like Latin, Specialist Mathematics and so on which scales up a lot, doesn't guarantee an automatic 40+/45+ score, you need to work just as hard - as goes with any other subject.
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Though not a useful post, I share your sentiments. Lacking scale up subjects like Spesh etc, and not doing year 12 school subjects last year that played with strengths .. getting a High ENTER is possibly much more difficult >;.
Using my own score as an example, I disagree. I only did five 3/4 subjects and only got 45 or above in two of them, and still got a 97. I assume I'm not the exception.
With regard to getting a 45+ SS, as has been said already, different subjects require more or less work for these scores, simply based on numbers. You're up against 45,000 kids to get above 45 in English as opposed to being against say 12,000 in Business Management. That's why I think English scores above 40 should be scales up.
100% agree, I mean look at my scores I only got 1 above 45 and I got above 97. You don't need to dominate everything to score well
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As m@tty about what unfortunately happened to him :(
wat happened to him? D:
I've got my 2 45+ from subjects where i was ranked 1st. In spesh, i was ranked 4th/5th out of 30 or so students. I've got my statements of marks back for it and i've got a high A+ for paper 1, and mid-high A+ for paper 2, which only translated to a 40 SS, since my Sac was marked from a A -> B+..... Those guys above me didn't carry and none of them got 40+ :-[
But yeah if you achieve rank 1, it's quite doable. Anywhere under rank 1-2 in a lower achieving school makes it alot tougher, almost like an exponential curve to achieve 45+
why is it that you did better in you exams than your sacs?
was your SS brought down because none of the guys who were ranked above you got good in their exam? and because of this you got a bad sac mark? (is this how it works)
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As m@tty about what unfortunately happened to him :(
wat happened to him? D:
I've got my 2 45+ from subjects where i was ranked 1st. In spesh, i was ranked 4th/5th out of 30 or so students. I've got my statements of marks back for it and i've got a high A+ for paper 1, and mid-high A+ for paper 2, which only translated to a 40 SS, since my Sac was marked from a A -> B+..... Those guys above me didn't carry and none of them got 40+ :-[
But yeah if you achieve rank 1, it's quite doable. Anywhere under rank 1-2 in a lower achieving school makes it alot tougher, almost like an exponential curve to achieve 45+
why is it that you did better in you exams than your sacs?
was your SS brought down because none of the guys who were ranked above you got good in their exam? and because of this you got a bad sac mark? (is this how it works)
The way it works is that if you are ranked with the third highest average in your SACs, then, irrespective of the grade (could be a D+ or an A+) the third highest exam mark from your school becomes that grade.
This practically means vcaa does not give a shit about what grade your school gives you, as from school to school, SAC difficulty will vary, and some schools will be easy to yield A+ (doable by even below-average students) whilst other schools will have insanely difficult SACs where even good students find it hard to manage anything above an A.
I think with m@tty, he was screwed over by SACs, despite getting scores good enough for 48-50's in the exam
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As m@tty about what unfortunately happened to him :(
wat happened to him? D:
As nacho said, in Chemistry I had the exam scores for 50 but was ranked 3rd (by 2% or something) and first two ranks stuffed up in exams, so my SACs were moderated to the highest A, and I got 'only' 44.
Ranking is what matters with SACs, not the actual raw scores. If your cohort is strong, first ranking isn't essential.. but if you cannot rely on your class mates to perform well in the exams, the higher ranks are important for a great score.
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thank god im doing a 3/4 in yr 11; so i dont stuff up in yr 12 :D
matty, you still got a really good score! :]
but maybe at a high spesh cohort school you would have got a 50 :(