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Title: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: donnotbesatisfied on June 26, 2008, 05:20:27 pm
Whats the minimum ENTER score for medicine at Monash & min. of UMAT?

Is there an estimated clearly in ENTER?
cheers
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: ninwa on June 26, 2008, 05:21:59 pm
There's no minimum ENTER, they take into account your UMAT score and interview score as well

min UMAT score to get an interview changes every year. Last year it was 59, this year will probably be higher because all the people who were going to go for UoM med now have to come to Monash, therefore higher competition
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: lacoste on June 26, 2008, 06:47:46 pm
Yes. I understand the process but I was wondering a rough ENTER estimation eg. is the cutoff mark 98.0 or something...?

I know its possible to get below 95 and do med if the UMAT is almost & interview 100%
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: psychlaw on June 26, 2008, 07:07:16 pm
Theres no minimum, or such

BA22 told me that there are people who get in with ENTERS which aren't even in the 90s (high 80s) who get in, and there are also those who get 99.xx? but they may still miss out.

Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: BA22 on June 26, 2008, 07:29:31 pm
People in the course with scores of 86.00

People missed out with scores of 99.50+
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: orangez on June 26, 2008, 08:21:03 pm
People in the course with scores of 86.00

WHOA!! That is unheard of!!  :o
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: ninwa on June 26, 2008, 08:50:46 pm
People missed out with scores of 99.50+
example of that right here *points at self*

:(

are there realy people with 86 in med? they must have aced the UMAT!
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: lacoste on June 26, 2008, 09:28:10 pm
you must of stuffed up in the interview/umat??
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: BA22 on June 26, 2008, 10:23:59 pm
you must of stuffed up in the interview/umat??

It's best to be polite when asking questions of posters, and be aware that "stuffing up" is not so eaily defined.

The criteria process is not always fixed with arbitrary cut offs (with exception of the UMAT), and different entry schemes require different scores. Also any scores relevant to last years entry may not be applicable this year as there is no Umelb undergrad course. Entry into the Monash course will be more more competitive and therefore more difficult. Succinctly put, no-one really knows what these scores will be, so just focus on doing the best you can.

From anecdotal experience of many in my cohort, the interview was the criteria that alot felt clinched their spot. It's also the general concensus that everyone who gets in, deseves to be there, meaning that they communicated a genuine desire to be in the course as they had a passion for medicine and helping people. My advice is to ask yourself if you have these desires, i've heard stories of people freezing up when asked "why do you want to do medicine?".

Many prospective med students have asked me "what did you say?". If you are asking this sorts of questions, then you should seriously consider your future.
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: ninwa on June 26, 2008, 11:01:41 pm
It's best to be polite when asking questions of posters, and be aware that "stuffing up" is not so eaily defined.
:)


lacoste, yes I did do quite badly in the UMAT and by some great stroke of luck JUST made the cutoff score for an interview, which I also royally "stuffed up" lol. I was one of those "how do you answer a question like why do you want to do medicine?" people and my interviewers saw right through that - remember they interview hundreds of med hopefuls and do know their stuff.

That said, I did geniunely want to do medicine at the time, but now I'm glad I didn't get in because I'm really enjoying law. Maybe my interviewers saw into my subconscious or something ha ha
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: excal on June 27, 2008, 10:34:36 pm
I thought that this year's intake at UoM would be the final intake?

(i.e., the demand shift will occur next year)
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: BA22 on June 27, 2008, 11:34:09 pm
Last years intake was the final undergrad intake.


http://www.medicine.unimelb.edu.au/future/ugradselect.html

Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: excal on June 28, 2008, 03:53:09 pm
Ah ok. I shall slap Glockmeister.
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: chid on June 29, 2008, 10:45:54 pm
ninwa, (if you don't mind me asking) what kind of percentiles did you get to be at last year's cut-off score for interviews?
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: ganges on July 05, 2008, 10:21:02 pm
There's no minimum ENTER, they take into account your UMAT score and interview score as well

min UMAT score to get an interview changes every year. Last year it was 59, this year will probably be higher because all the people who were going to go for UoM med now have to come to Monash, therefore higher competition

u mean 259?
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: BA22 on July 06, 2008, 01:42:03 pm
Last year they used a new UMAT scoring formula called the "overall score". No-one knows how it's calculated as ACER won't release that sort of information, but it's sort of an average of your 3 sections. Monash uses this score, last year the cut-off as Ninwa says was 59
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: ninwa on July 06, 2008, 05:30:52 pm
ninwa, (if you don't mind me asking) what kind of percentiles did you get to be at last year's cut-off score for interviews?
good question :P
I THINK it was something like, s1 92, s2 90, s3 85 (I fail at this section). I know I didn't get anything higher than 92 lol
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: ed_saifa on July 06, 2008, 05:33:28 pm
good question :P
I THINK it was something like, s1 92, s2 90, s3 85 (I fail at this section). I know I didn't get anything higher than 92 lol
Lol. i wouldn't consider 85 a fail.
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: ganges on July 06, 2008, 06:34:09 pm
good question :P
I THINK it was something like, s1 92, s2 90, s3 85 (I fail at this section). I know I didn't get anything higher than 92 lol
Lol. i wouldn't consider 85 a fail.

yeh thats great! You must have prepared really well for it.
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: chid on July 07, 2008, 11:06:38 pm
ninwa, (if you don't mind me asking) what kind of percentiles did you get to be at last year's cut-off score for interviews?
good question :P
I THINK it was something like, s1 92, s2 90, s3 85 (I fail at this section). I know I didn't get anything higher than 92 lol

Thanks ninwa.

I would consider them really good percentiles.

Actually, I'm a little worried about this year, if you needed 267 (sum) to be at cut-off for last year.  :o
In the past I heard 230-240%ile for Monash.

Is it 'easy' to achieve those kinds of percentiles (or raw scores). Like do you know what kind of actual scores (last year) would have coressponded to those percentiles. (ballpark)

Seems pretty tough atm...

Thanks.

Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: ninwa on July 09, 2008, 04:31:09 pm
Nobody knows what their "scores" were, or what each section was out of. ACER are a secretive bunch ><

You just get your percentiles and an overall score (e.g. 59).

I would say it's not too hard to get my scores - like I've said heaps of times before I got those scores having literally guessed around 45% of the questions because I ran out of time. If you keep your head with you and work through the questions steadily and get them done I don't see why you couldn't get a much better score than me, although yes, the Monash medicine cutoff is gonna increase this year because I think Monash is now the only (decent) uni in Victoria that offers undergraduate medicine = tough competition.


EDIT: actually now that I come to think of it ... I don't think I got anything higher than 90 lol
Title: Re: MEDICINE IN MONASH
Post by: Pandemonium on September 12, 2008, 08:07:17 pm
There's no minimum ENTER, they take into account your UMAT score and interview score as well

min UMAT score to get an interview changes every year. Last year it was 59, this year will probably be higher because all the people who were going to go for UoM med now have to come to Monash, therefore higher competition
59 refers to the raw score.

u mean 259?