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Title: anyone freaking out
Post by: vwinnie8 on June 01, 2011, 07:29:43 pm
I am. I can't do half the shit in trial exams without peeking at the worked solutions.... siggghhhh. My school crammed in everything at the last minute.. still have a chem sac next week!   :'(
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: cibicl on June 01, 2011, 08:31:20 pm
I am! Big time! Have a pretty crappy teacher and are rushing every so much right now :(
Not looking forward to it all!
However, goodluck :)
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: cranberry on June 01, 2011, 10:03:53 pm
same - proteins/dna sac monday...
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: cohen on June 01, 2011, 10:08:15 pm
I am aswell, We have our protein/dna sac on friday. I'm only freaking about about the DNA/Medicine related stuff, im good with fats/denaturation, thank god lol.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Vincezor on June 01, 2011, 10:30:30 pm
Yes. Just barely scraped an "A+" for the 2009 VCAA exam. To be real honest, I don't think I should've gotten the A+, seeing as I found alot of the multiple choice familiar - probably from checkpoints. Got absolutely owned in the theoretical aspects, confidence has just dropped like a brick.

Not to mention I have an aspirin SAC tomorrow... arghhh
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: TrueTears on June 01, 2011, 10:37:25 pm
Yes. Just barely scraped an "A+" for the 2009 VCAA exam. To be real honest, I don't think I should've gotten the A+, seeing as I found alot of the multiple choice familiar - probably from checkpoints. Got absolutely owned in the theoretical aspects, confidence has just dropped like a brick.

Not to mention I have an aspirin SAC tomorrow... arghhh
dw about that 2009 vcaa exam, that shit was hard
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: methodsman on June 01, 2011, 10:46:27 pm
Yes. Just barely scraped an "A+" for the 2009 VCAA exam. To be real honest, I don't think I should've gotten the A+, seeing as I found alot of the multiple choice familiar - probably from checkpoints. Got absolutely owned in the theoretical aspects, confidence has just dropped like a brick.

Not to mention I have an aspirin SAC tomorrow... arghhh
dw about that 2009 vcaa exam, that shit was hard
oh the memories of that exam....
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: vwinnie8 on June 01, 2011, 10:53:27 pm
thanks guys haha
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: DisaFear on June 01, 2011, 11:02:37 pm
Yes. Just barely scraped an "A+" for the 2009 VCAA exam. To be real honest, I don't think I should've gotten the A+, seeing as I found alot of the multiple choice familiar - probably from checkpoints. Got absolutely owned in the theoretical aspects, confidence has just dropped like a brick.

Not to mention I have an aspirin SAC tomorrow... arghhh

If you're getting an A+, you shouldnt be worried rofl :P
I'm sure many of us barely want to scrape an A, esp for chem

I'm not too freaked out. Not yet in any case. :O
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: luken93 on June 01, 2011, 11:06:26 pm
This may be a stupid question, but apart from the Sodium Salt of Aspirin Q, what did most people find hard?
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: FatnessFirst on June 01, 2011, 11:21:21 pm
3 SACs next week for me o.O

Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: zool3 on June 01, 2011, 11:28:35 pm
2 sacs on friday and 2 sacs next week... so much for "sac free week"
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Vincezor on June 01, 2011, 11:42:39 pm
2 sacs on friday and 2 sacs next week... so much for "sac free week"

Yeah omg.. got a methods SAC next friday in our "SAC free week". Instead of spamming exams everyday, I'm reduced to having to study for a methods test, atleast for one night. Oh joy.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: nemolala on June 02, 2011, 06:56:59 pm
Yes. Just barely scraped an "A+" for the 2009 VCAA exam. To be real honest, I don't think I should've gotten the A+, seeing as I found alot of the multiple choice familiar - probably from checkpoints. Got absolutely owned in the theoretical aspects, confidence has just dropped like a brick.

Not to mention I have an aspirin SAC tomorrow... arghhh
dw about that 2009 vcaa exam, that shit was hard

lol i hear that this years exam will be like 2009. i hope its not too bad.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: zool3 on June 02, 2011, 07:58:20 pm
Probably will be hard, seeing last year was easy
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Readinya on June 02, 2011, 10:07:45 pm
Apparently the teachers predict the exams to be like this:

2008 -> trial run for new study design, so easy
2009 -> hard because the year before was too easy
2010 -> somewhere in the middle between hard/easy. Probably the standard from now onwards
2011 -> between 2010 and 2009: so middle-hard.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: meli001 on June 02, 2011, 10:12:35 pm
I am, I'm being reminded everyday that I'm competing with some of smartest people I've ever met in my life. The other 3 guys in my class :(
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Keo on June 02, 2011, 11:09:04 pm
Did my dna/protein sac today, was easy for me :P
Still haven't done my aspirin sac, and I must say my chemistry teacher is also horrible :(
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: cltf on June 03, 2011, 04:08:20 pm
Try doing the Lisachem and Neap 2011, not fun.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: nacho on June 03, 2011, 04:36:56 pm
what'd you guys think of insight 2011?

I found it fairly straightforward, except for redox, forget that stuff :|
Yet to mark it though.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: luken93 on June 03, 2011, 05:14:20 pm
Yeah, Insight 2011 was really easy IMO, I'm starting to think that they are among the best for chem though, all relevant and not going off on a tangent like NEAP does. Lisachem this year was not like them at all :(
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: jackson1234 on June 03, 2011, 05:17:42 pm
Yeah, Insight 2011 was really easy IMO, I'm starting to think that they are among the best for chem though, all relevant and not going off on a tangent like NEAP does. Lisachem this year was not like them at all :(
Insight is the easiest provider hands down haha.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: luken93 on June 03, 2011, 05:20:51 pm
Yeah I know they're easiest, but they are the only ones that have stayed on topic, Lisachem's trying to be all smart n shit like NEAP now :P
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: meli001 on June 03, 2011, 09:10:23 pm
Anyone disappointed with STAV 2011? It was pretty easy and even one of the questions were stuffed up o.O
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: luken93 on June 03, 2011, 09:14:47 pm
Yeah, wasn't much at all :(
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: nacho on June 03, 2011, 09:21:14 pm
Yeah, Insight 2011 was really easy IMO, I'm starting to think that they are among the best for chem though, all relevant and not going off on a tangent like NEAP does. Lisachem this year was not like them at all :(
Insight is the easiest provider hands down haha.
I was happy with my performance on the exam, until i read this post.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: luken93 on June 03, 2011, 09:27:40 pm
Yeah, Insight 2011 was really easy IMO, I'm starting to think that they are among the best for chem though, all relevant and not going off on a tangent like NEAP does. Lisachem this year was not like them at all :(
Insight is the easiest provider hands down haha.
I was happy with my performance on the exam, until i read this post.
Sozzle nacho!
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: luken93 on June 03, 2011, 09:29:44 pm
btw, anyone going to the connect lecture tomorrow?
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: david10d on June 04, 2011, 01:29:33 am
Anyone disappointed with STAV 2011? It was pretty easy and even one of the questions were stuffed up o.O

yeah. insight and stav have been the easiest so far.

just saving my TSFX and NEAP ones till next week, then VCAA VCAA VCAA VCAA.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: vwinnie8 on June 04, 2011, 02:23:30 pm
do vcaa last they are the easiest!
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: luken93 on June 04, 2011, 02:35:03 pm
do vcaa last they are the easiest!
2009 inclusive?
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Vincezor on June 04, 2011, 04:00:43 pm
2009 inclusive?

Sure.. why not... :laugh:

No but really, as I was doing that exam I was like   :'( and by the end  :buck2:
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: zool3 on June 04, 2011, 05:37:44 pm
NEAP KILLS YOUR CONFIDENCE I CRIED WHEN I DID IT (NOT REALLY)
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Water on June 04, 2011, 05:50:06 pm
I know CSE made me cry though.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: cranberry on June 04, 2011, 06:00:37 pm
^^ welcome back water
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: ttn on June 04, 2011, 06:08:25 pm
Lol so I've only done 2 papers so far and not doing well at all,
1st one - Lisachem 2011, only got 50%
2nd - Stav 2008, 68%

So can you guys recommend me some of the easier ones I can get through first?
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: b^3 on June 04, 2011, 06:12:15 pm
Insight 2011 is pretty easy, i only got 52% on lisachem but 92% on insight, just making silly mistakes on fragmentation.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: ttn on June 04, 2011, 06:26:09 pm
wow you only got 52%? that makes me feel a lot better about my 50 lol.

Any other easier ones you guys know of?
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: b^3 on June 04, 2011, 06:29:38 pm
To be fair though my Lisachem one was done as a school practice exam staright after a methods sac at like 3:30 after a day of school so, wasnt in my best shape.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Dr.Lecter on June 04, 2011, 06:35:16 pm
our chem class did neap 2011 as their first practise exam - 20% average
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Greatness on June 04, 2011, 06:36:29 pm
lisachem 08-10, insight and stav are fairly straightforward well from the ones ive done so far..lisachem11 is a bitch..
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: luken93 on June 04, 2011, 06:39:52 pm
VCAA 2008 if you want a nice easy exam to begin with. I know some say that it's not good to do VCAA at the start, but I'd much rather know that there is hope (if you do well) rather than thinking you're useless and shit at Chem, when in reality you could be coming up against some of the hardest exams produced!
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Water on June 04, 2011, 06:40:54 pm
our chem class did neap 2011 as their first practise exam - 20% average

One Word. Lol

PS: I"m going to do Lisachem 2011 again, see whats the hype about. I might have rushed it last time...
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: ttn on June 04, 2011, 06:44:14 pm
Thanks for all the suggestions.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: nemolala on June 04, 2011, 10:33:32 pm
I know CSE made me cry though.


yessssss that shit was so hard i was pulling out my hair. 
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: vwinnie8 on June 05, 2011, 02:41:04 pm
NEAP KILLS YOUR CONFIDENCE I CRIED WHEN I DID IT (NOT REALLY)

story of my life. neap accounting were pretty bad, and they never gave enough space to write LOL
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: vwinnie8 on June 05, 2011, 02:43:39 pm
Lol so I've only done 2 papers so far and not doing well at all,
1st one - Lisachem 2011, only got 50%
2nd - Stav 2008, 68%

So can you guys recommend me some of the easier ones I can get through first?

Umm try doing them question by question - Like do one question/one short section, and correct it with solutions. So that way you're not making the same mistakes over and over in the paper. All the papers are hard.. :( sigh. Hmmm.. get that A+ Chem notes book, READ IT, highlight stuff while going through the whole book, it really helped me coz I basically zoned out half the time in chem class and it summarises things up very well. :) The book itself is quite thin and small - can easily read it in 2-3 hours, maybe even less
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: cltf on June 05, 2011, 03:46:55 pm
Exambuster for Chemistry is the best. Sources all its questions from past VCAA exams, complete with worked solutions, assessor's comments and average marks. The questions are all still relevant to the course ranging from 2002 to 2009 i think, very good revision.
In terms of exams, the tough ones this year are LISACHEM, NEAP, and the confidence boosters are INSIGHT and STAV.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: thushan on June 05, 2011, 04:07:02 pm
Lisachem: Decent, with some good questions and some dodgy ones --> 6/10
NEAP: Odd, with some very good questions, some really dodgy ones --> 6/10
CSE: Who the hell wrote that paper? --> -2/10
STAV: Quite good, with the odd dodgy question --> 8/10
Insight: Excellent papers, with good worked solutions --> 9/10
VCAA: Well, that's the standard. --> 10/10

Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: luken93 on June 05, 2011, 04:11:56 pm
Haha well said/summarised thushan - getting ready for MUEP?
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: jackson1234 on June 05, 2011, 04:16:00 pm
Lisachem: Decent, with some good questions and some dodgy ones --> 6/10
NEAP: Odd, with some very good questions, some really dodgy ones --> 6/10
CSE: Who the hell wrote that paper? --> -2/10
STAV: Quite good, with the odd dodgy question --> 8/10
Insight: Excellent papers, with good worked solutions --> 9/10
VCAA: Well, that's the standard. --> 10/10



and...
TSFX - "Are you sure you have the right subject?"  0/10
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: thushan on June 05, 2011, 04:46:14 pm
Bahahahah I can imagine that lady from TSFX... "Our papers are excellent, they are of the highest quality, and have been checked over and over by the most experienced of assessors..."
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Andiio on June 05, 2011, 04:55:55 pm
I find it funny how TSSM produces chem papers when TSSM stands for 'The Specialised School for Mathematics'
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: nacho on June 05, 2011, 04:59:59 pm
CSE are the worst.
their papers are extremely ugly and terribly set out too
i'd rather watch a dog take a dump than do a CSE paper
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Dr.Lecter on June 05, 2011, 05:07:51 pm
I find it funny how TSSM produces chem papers when TSSM stands for 'The Specialised School for Mathematics'

m8...lisachem bio,psych,phys papers
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: zool3 on June 05, 2011, 05:08:52 pm
CSE are the worst.
their papers are extremely ugly and terribly set out too
i'd rather watch a dog take a dump than do a CSE paper

AMEN TO THAT
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: nacho on June 05, 2011, 05:10:36 pm
I find it funny how TSSM produces chem papers when TSSM stands for 'The Specialised School for Mathematics'
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: thushan on June 05, 2011, 05:24:55 pm
"CSE are the worst.
their papers are extremely ugly and terribly set out too
i'd rather watch a dog take a dump than do a CSE paper"

I like it. Good summary of CSE.

IARTV: Independent Association of Ridiculous Teachers Victoria...
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: jackson1234 on June 05, 2011, 05:54:09 pm
have you folks tried the kilbaha chem exams? , and how are they like?
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: luken93 on June 05, 2011, 06:08:34 pm
They don't have any current study design exams do they?
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: zool3 on June 05, 2011, 06:45:59 pm
kilbaha is ridiculous! well im just speaking for methods! they added a specialist "assumed knowledge" in one of their papers!
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: zool3 on June 05, 2011, 06:47:02 pm
"CSE are the worst.
their papers are extremely ugly and terribly set out too
i'd rather watch a dog take a dump than do a CSE paper"

I like it. Good summary of CSE.

IARTV: Independent Association of Ridiculous Teachers Victoria...

IARTV: Idiots Associated with Ridiculous Teachers of Victoria
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Water on June 05, 2011, 06:49:20 pm
Guys, I just did the 2009 VCE Paper.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: pi on June 05, 2011, 06:53:36 pm
Lisachem: Decent, with some good questions and some dodgy ones --> 6/10
NEAP: Odd, with some very good questions, some really dodgy ones --> 6/10
CSE: Who the hell wrote that paper? --> -2/10
STAV: Quite good, with the odd dodgy question --> 8/10
Insight: Excellent papers, with good worked solutions --> 9/10
VCAA: Well, that's the standard. --> 10/10



Ever done Chemology?
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: tony3272 on June 05, 2011, 06:55:14 pm
Lisachem: Decent, with some good questions and some dodgy ones --> 6/10
NEAP: Odd, with some very good questions, some really dodgy ones --> 6/10
CSE: Who the hell wrote that paper? --> -2/10
STAV: Quite good, with the odd dodgy question --> 8/10
Insight: Excellent papers, with good worked solutions --> 9/10
VCAA: Well, that's the standard. --> 10/10



Ever done Chemology?
They look pretty simple but i havn't done them yet. Are they good?

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Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: cranberry on June 05, 2011, 06:56:57 pm
chemology's a joke! don't bother...
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Water on June 05, 2011, 07:02:06 pm
For the Lisachem 2011 One.

Their solution of M(KMnO4) = 197.1 gmol-1

But in actual fact its 158gmol-1.

For question 2 in Short Answer. Parent Molecular Ion is 71gram but their solutions says its 72gram 


Just some errors I picked up.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: thushan on June 05, 2011, 07:32:17 pm
Water, how did you find 2009 VCAA?
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Water on June 05, 2011, 07:34:29 pm
Water, how did you find 2009 VCAA?

Not as hard as everyone makes it out to be. Having said that, I only got 82% based on my own marking scheme.


Though, it really pinpointed what I have to study up on.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: thushan on June 05, 2011, 07:39:46 pm
It's not that difficult, but it does test you.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Vincezor on June 05, 2011, 07:53:51 pm

Not as hard as everyone makes it out to be. Having said that, I only got 82% based on my own marking scheme.


Though, it really pinpointed what I have to study up on.

Hehe, same mark as me! :D I reckon I could've gotten better. I'll admit, I geniunely did not know how to do the TLC or UV/Vis? theory that was in question 2. Other than that, I reckon I could've done the rest of the short answer. Silly Silly mistakes :(
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: luken93 on June 05, 2011, 07:55:26 pm
It's not that difficult, but it does test you.
Exactly! I didn't think it was THAT bad, however the aspirin with sodium added I had never seen before, but unfortunately for me VCAA 2009 was one of the first I had ever done, scared the shit outta me!
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Tatertot on June 08, 2011, 07:28:25 pm
Last years was meant to be easy. I have been doing somewhat well on SACs, with mainly B's i STRUGGLED!!!! with 2010 exam. MASS FREAK OUT!
 
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: pi on June 09, 2011, 04:35:45 pm
Water, how did you find 2009 VCAA?

Was the A+ like 78% or something? I'll do it on the extended-long weekend (MHS gave us 4 days off total), hopefully I manage an A+...
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: Water on June 09, 2011, 04:39:19 pm
2010 was easy? If I was doing that in 1 hr 30mins, with nervous and pressure, I'd be screaming, fuck fuck fuck. PRESSURE!
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: nemolala on June 09, 2011, 05:45:57 pm
i found 2008 quite difficult lol
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: luken93 on June 09, 2011, 08:25:26 pm
Water, how did you find 2009 VCAA?

Was the A+ like 78% or something? I'll do it on the extended-long weekend (MHS gave us 4 days off total), hopefully I manage an A+...
2008: 68/78
2009: 57/73
2010: 67/75

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Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: cltf on June 10, 2011, 10:16:46 pm
It'll be Hard, so brush up on LISACHEM and NEAP 2011 and CSE 11 some very very tricky questions in there.
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: physics on June 10, 2011, 10:42:53 pm
MY COMFORTING WORDS FOR YOU (WHICH YOU HAVE ALL PROBABLY HEARD OF BEFORE)

you are all well prepared and its normal for u guys to stress...dw i am too!

but if u stess and stress about stressing you are going to develop a weak immune system and then ur going to get sick and then ur going to post a thread on VN saying" OMG I'm sick on the day before the exam: what should i do??!" or ur going to post a thread saying "how do i get rid of this headache"   

GOOD LUCKK!
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: zool3 on June 10, 2011, 11:12:48 pm
MY COMFORTING WORDS FOR YOU (WHICH YOU HAVE ALL PROBABLY HEARD OF BEFORE)

you are all well prepared and its normal for u guys to stress...dw i am too!

but if u stess and stress about stressing you are going to develop a weak immune system and then ur going to get sick and then ur going to post a thread on VN saying" OMG I'm sick on the day before the exam: what should i do??!" or ur going to post a thread saying "how do i get rid of this headache"   

GOOD LUCKK!

AMEN!

addition to your wonderful post...if you can't do it! think of this, at least 1000 people are worse off than you and 1000 people are at your level and ALL OF VICTORIA ARE GOING WTFFFFFF!!
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: nacho on June 10, 2011, 11:17:15 pm
MY COMFORTING WORDS FOR YOU (WHICH YOU HAVE ALL PROBABLY HEARD OF BEFORE)

you are all well prepared and its normal for u guys to stress...dw i am too!

but if u stess and stress about stressing you are going to develop a weak immune system and then ur going to get sick and then ur going to post a thread on VN saying" OMG I'm sick on the day before the exam: what should i do??!" or ur going to post a thread saying "how do i get rid of this headache"   

GOOD LUCKK!
wrong
i already got sick 2 weeks ago, so it just cant happen again in such a short period of time.
i can stress all i want now
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: taiga on June 10, 2011, 11:17:49 pm
Oi guys you're all going to fail so study hard over the next two days

sincerely,
resident asian parent
tough love (L)
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: DisaFear on June 10, 2011, 11:21:28 pm
Nothing wrong with failing, it's the new trend now
*Look at world*
Title: Re: anyone freaking out
Post by: The Full House on June 11, 2011, 04:34:08 pm
This is going to be fun =l