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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: boysenberry on June 08, 2011, 01:58:26 pm
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USA or Australia when it comes to highschool schooling?
What does everybody think?
And what are the latests statistics showing? :)
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In terms of high school education for the average kid, my vote goes to Australia. However, the US offers farrrrr more flexibility and opportunties.
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Generally speaking, Australia.
This is old, but should give you some idea: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading
This data does not account for prestigious American schools though. If you are very rich, you might be better off in a US prepatory school than in Australia (though I'm not sure and I don't have evidence to back that up).
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Generally speaking, Australia.
This is old, but should give you some idea: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading
This data does not account for prestigious American schools though. If you are very rich, you might be better off in a US prepatory school than in Australia (though I'm not sure and I don't have evidence to back that up).
The US also has schools that are like MHS and McRob (Stuyvesant in NY for example) that are considered as good if not better than the prep schools.
Honestly, I'd say they're about equal really, but I'd probably prefer US just because you have better opportunities and flexibility like someone above said.
May I add that while South Korea is listed at the top in terms of academic outputs, the country also has the 2nd highest suicide rate in the world after Lithuania and kids often go to school for 10 hours a day and have to do insane amounts of study on weekends, so whether that should be considered a "good education system" is questionable.
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Australia. That's why there are a lot of exchange students and people who move to Australia for their childrens education. Although, the amount you learn is not much compared to schools in say Asia.
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What do people think about the different university systems?
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Clearly America is the best when it comes to universities.
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Clearly America is the best when it comes to universities.
You're probably only basing that off Ivy League schools.
Their system is quite strange, when I was over there they would spend a whole year on biology for science and geometry for math(s). I thought that was pretty weird.
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Do we have to keep this at America and Australia?
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I'm curious about China's education system, as they have just succeeded the US in terms of the number of scientific papers published (according to newscientist) - although i'm just quantifying their academic output, it doesn't necessarily demonstrate a better education system.
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China's education system is a bit like this:
May I add that while South Korea is listed at the top in terms of academic outputs, the country also has the 2nd highest suicide rate in the world after Lithuania and kids often go to school for 10 hours a day and have to do insane amounts of study on weekends, so whether that should be considered a "good education system" is questionable.
/glad my parents got me out of there before I started school
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The amount of study kids do in China is equivalent to wow grinding
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United States. I might be wrong on this, but I don't think the GPA has any negative scaling. I've always seen it as a better system since students can pick what they want and achieve.
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The UK! Finish high school at 16 :D
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The UK! Finish high school at 16 :D
really?
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United States. I might be wrong on this, but I don't think the GPA has any negative scaling. I've always seen it as a better system since students can pick what they want and achieve.
GPAs in the US are masssiveelllllyyyy inflated for high school. Most people applying for top tier universities have GPAs which are close to 4.0 (and many have weighted GPAs which are far beyond). I really think that the flexibility offered to students in the US helps higher end students to achieve (as they can do research whilst at school, take college classes throughout high school...), but there's very little subject standardization (bar the SAT IIs and the APs, which only top students take anyway).
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Australia. That's why there are a lot of exchange students and people who move to Australia for their childrens education. Although, the amount you learn is not much compared to schools in say Asia.
Oh god the schools in Asia.
When I was in grade 3 my school wanted the students(in my year level that is) to know all the names of the bones(from your meta tarsal all the way to your cranium), they also taught us in grade 2 the different types of stars (white dwarves yadi yadi ya...), a tinge of gravity and all these wtf cramming information in your brain... So when we moved to Australia, I found it easy UNTIL year 11.
Don't get me started that was only my science subject.
I also heard my friends were doing calculus when I was in year 9 or 10
So as what to everyone was saying, studying in Asia is like putting a Fist in Uranus
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The UK! Finish high school at 16 :D
really?
It's more likely 17, but can be 16 in some cases. Then you have the choice of optional schooling. Best mate did year 11 then went to public college to become a child carer.
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America's just confuses me, like I don't get what the hell a GPA is? their high schools look like so much fun though :D
My friend from England went to school over here for a year or so and said it was so laid back compared to her school oveer there, but then again I go a crappy public school :P