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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: werdna on June 10, 2011, 10:25:19 pm
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What's the key to doing the first writing task? It is an informative piece that cannot set forth an argument.. but is there any particular structure that is recommended for this task? Can it be an informative piece but in the form of not just an essay but also a speech for example?
And any strategies for doing the second writing task? What form should the writing take or is this flexible?
So I'm basically just wondering how people have approached these two tasks, thanks!
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From what I've heard, the first task can be any form, as long as it sounds informative (and not persuasive) :) It can definitely be a speech, just make sure it doesn't sound 'persuasive' or sounds like it's taking on a certain point of view. The first task can even take the form of an informative brochure on the issue (you can have subheadings in your first writing piece). Last year for the second writing task, I just did a persuasive speech, because in the second one, they want you to have some point of view. The second one could also be an editorial, a small debate, opinion piece, anything that shows you strongly agree or disagree with the issue =)
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Thanks for the help! I'm not really used to writing informative pieces :S
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Isn't the theme this year Rebecca black?
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Isn't the theme this year Rebecca black?
And 'Charlie Sheen' apparently
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Year 11 - decided to take it seriously, didn't include any of that george clooney stuff. Got 31.
Year 12 - decided to take the piss cos I knew I'd do shit anyway, put in about 3 different in jokes as a dare. Got 45.
My tip, don't worry about it at all because you'll probably end up writing a more fluid piece if you're not pressured about doing well on it.
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Too bad the GAT's not on a Friday.
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My mate didn't even answer the humanities paper and still got a scaled score of 12 in the GAT
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;D ;D
Is it true that the GAT can really only benefit you? As in exam scores can either go up or stay the same, and not go down?
Is this the case with internal SACs as well?
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GAT can never lower you - tis true. Unsure about SACs.
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Yeah, I'm planning on doing a Slumdawg. Can't believe I tried last year, may as well give the assessors something to laugh about :P
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have fun in the GAT essay no one really takes it seriously
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;D ;D
Is it true that the GAT can really only benefit you? As in exam scores can either go up or stay the same, and not go down?
Is this the case with internal SACs as well?
Yeah your gat can only bring you up.
But if you look at the flipside, if you don't benefit as much as you could have from it, I'd still see it as a loss.
Also if a cohort performs well on the GAT, their sac marks have a slight chance of being moderated a bit nicer :)
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The worst thing is, the GAT is synonymously known now as a joke by almost everyone, so it's pretty much a waste of time to really prove anything.
Moreover, it doesn't test your ability to study hard. BM is hardly a subject that requires raw skill and talent, it takes hours to sit down and learn definitions, do practice exams, and perfect your answers. Hence why I got 47 in BM, yet 31 in Humanities...
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I might take it seriously next year if I do shit. I'll have more knowledge next year anyway.
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;D ;D
Is it true that the GAT can really only benefit you? As in exam scores can either go up or stay the same, and not go down?
Is this the case with internal SACs as well?
In ILP we got told that if the cohort does poorly in the GAT, our scores will be affected.
Not sure if serious.
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Exam scores can only stay the same or go up, not moderated down in the process. Not too sure about how it works for SACs though.
See this: http://vce.atarnotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,42026.msg432238.html#msg432238
How many words do people recommend for each of the essays? They say that we should spend 30mins each.
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Exam scores can only stay the same or go up, not moderated down in the process. Not too sure about how it works for SACs though.
See this: http://vce.atarnotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,42026.msg432238.html#msg432238
How many words do people recommend for each of the essays? They say that we should spend 30mins each.
Their "suggested time" is only 30 mins per writing piece, so anywhere from 400-(however much you can write) words would be acceptable. That said, the minimum of 400 words would actually need to holistically address the information given
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I talked about George Clooney and Bear Grylls in both essays last year. Got 41 for Written Communication. I'm starting to think the markers are just having a laugh ;D
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how did you guys find out so much info on the gat; like apparently its on rebecca black and charlie sheen???.. my skool jus sed you cant study for it, its general knowledge. anyone know more info????
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how did you guys find out so much info on the gat; like apparently its on rebecca black and charlie sheen???.. my skool jus sed you cant study for it, its general knowledge. anyone know more info????
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it's not actually on rebecca black, however it's more of a yearly trend to get the whole of victoria to mention the same thing - kinda like a VCE mexican wave :P
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what do u mean by facebook, no one really in my area are srs about studies so it doesnt get up on facebook. so like anyone know exactly what else is gnna be on it?
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No one knows what will be on the GAT. As previously mentioned, the whole Rebecca Black thing is a joke amongst VCE students.
If you wanna take it seriously, have a look on the VCAA website for previous GATs to give you an idea about what the questions will be like.
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while i was looking for exam 1 covers, i came across to the GAT one. they actually show the writing tasks for 2011 which i mean the instructions only!
write about charlie sheen, Rebecca black - Friday Friday
good luck
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Interesting...
Now for an epic story.
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while i was looking for exam 1 covers, i came across to the GAT one. they actually show the writing tasks for 2011.
I don't see it...???
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pdf download...
I downloaded it, but I don't see the writing task on the PDF.
It just has instructions on what to do, not what the actual writing task is...
Maybe I interpreted the statement wrong ???
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^ That's all it is, instructions.
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its only instructions on wat you need to do for the GAT writing tasks 1 and 2. (i mis-write it)
good luck with writing about Rebecca black- friday or charlie sheen....
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In relation to the OP, I think that the examiners are looking for something that has a bit of a creative flair. The first time I took it in '06 I thought 'informative piece' meant 'fact sheet', but actually you could do it in the style of a media release or a newspaper article. With the opinion pice, make it a bit different, put a new insight or angle on the issue rather than something straightforward which 90% of the state is going to argue. That made the difference between a 35 and a 47 (or something like that, I don't actually remember my GAT scores).
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I had a similar jump to Eriny's, but to be honest, the only difference between my two attempts was that one time I took it seriously, and one time I didn't. Manifested in writing, this meant that one year was serious, and one year was mostly serious except for my mentioning of Human Centipede.
Conclusion: Don't even think about it, the GAT makes no sense.
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I wish GAT counted for something, I got a 50 on the written bit, did I get a 50 for English NOOOOOOO
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I wish GAT counted for something, I got a 50 on the written bit, did I get a 50 for English NOOOOOOO
I got 31 for humanities, did I get 31 in Bus Man NNOOOOOOOOO
A good no though :P
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I wish GAT counted for something, I got a 50 on the written bit, did I get a 50 for English NOOOOOOO
To be fair, my GAT results actually reflected my scaled study scores pretty well...hmmm...
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Mine didn't at all... and my GAT results were dramatically different in year 12 (possibly due to a lack of sleep+illness before the exam, but meh). On the other hand, one set of my GAT results was similar to my SAT results...