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Archived Discussion => 2011 => Mid-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Biology => Topic started by: lexitu on June 13, 2011, 11:15:52 am

Title: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: lexitu on June 13, 2011, 11:15:52 am
Hello all :)

I'm just making a new thread for this because I don't feel as if enough people got this so I just want to make sure it'll happen.

When the exam is finished, could someone please get a copy of the official exam paper? Normally this can be done by asking a supervisor, or asking one of your teachers. Usually it's not very difficult to do, so don't feel as if it won't work. Then, it would fantastic if you could email me the paper ([email protected]). As soon as I have it, Eddie (scocliffe) and I will start working on some proposed solutions that we will make available to you as soon as possible. It would be greatly appreciated if someone (ideally many people) could do this.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Christiano on June 13, 2011, 02:58:04 pm
I'll try and get it from the supervisor, if not, the AP should give me a copy because she's my biology teacher  :D
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Post by: lexitu on June 13, 2011, 03:17:12 pm
Oh okay awesome, thanks for that mate! Will try and have the answers up for you before the evening :)
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Post by: simpak on June 14, 2011, 12:08:09 am
I second this, last year I had to wait a ridiculously long time to attempt the paper myself.
But this year I will be working tomorrow night so it's probably best I don't do it if everyone wants their results asap!

Good luck to everyone!
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Base on June 14, 2011, 11:05:34 am
Well I got severely raped.
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Post by: liuetenant on June 14, 2011, 11:34:01 am
likwise....the supervisor told me "i was jeaopordising my position" b/c i forgot to fill in the front with my naame and number first...so had to do it at the end :P
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Post by: Keo on June 14, 2011, 12:23:09 pm
likwise....the supervisor told me "i was jeaopordising my position" b/c i forgot to fill in the front with my naame and number first...so had to do it at the end :P

Our supervisor reminded everyone! Lucky for me :P
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: lexitu on June 14, 2011, 12:32:34 pm
Aww, reading the reactions on the exam thread, sounds like it was a bit tricky!

Did anyone get the paper? Please email me - [email protected] so we can get some proposed answers down! If someone manages to do it, but after 2pm, email me at work - [email protected].
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Charmz on June 14, 2011, 01:08:39 pm
The exam was sooooo easy except for a few silly mistakes on my behalf. I got the paper. You don't mind if i take photo's of it and send them to you? I can't get access to a scanner until 6pm.
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: lexitu on June 14, 2011, 01:11:37 pm
Yeah as long as your phone camera is okay that'd be great! Send it to [email protected] because I have work in an hour (but I can still do the paper at work - I'm living the dream :P )
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Post by: Russ on June 14, 2011, 01:15:03 pm
Post em here as well if you're gonna take the photos!
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: manniet on June 14, 2011, 01:21:11 pm
The exam was sooooo easy except for a few silly mistakes on my behalf. I got the paper. You don't mind if i take photo's of it and send them to you? I can't get access to a scanner until 6pm.

i agree. the easiness of it almost threw me off in a couple questions in a sense. haha
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Charmz on June 14, 2011, 01:36:12 pm
The exam was sooooo easy except for a few silly mistakes on my behalf. I got the paper. You don't mind if i take photo's of it and send them to you? I can't get access to a scanner until 6pm.

i agree. the easiness of it almost threw me off in a couple questions in a sense. haha

It was so easier that the answers were way too obvious. I think thats where a lot of people went wrong.
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: dou0014 on June 14, 2011, 01:52:37 pm
I FORGOT TO WRITE MY STUDENT NUMBER ON THE FRONT!! BUT THERE WAS A STICKER IS THAT OK!! SHIT I didn't even hear her say it, she kept coughing!
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Charmz on June 14, 2011, 01:56:27 pm
I FORGOT TO WRITE MY STUDENT NUMBER ON THE FRONT!! BUT THERE WAS A STICKER IS THAT OK!! SHIT I didn't even hear her say it, she kept coughing!
Lol. It's probably okay. They changed my student number and couldn't find my seat and made me sit at the back, then they found my name and they made me move halfway through reading time.
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: manniet on June 14, 2011, 02:13:25 pm
Yeah as long as your phone camera is okay that'd be great! Send it to [email protected] because I have work in an hour (but I can still do the paper at work - I'm living the dream :P )
Did you get hold of  copy yet?  My teacher had copies but I assumed someone else would do it! haha damn
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Charmz on June 14, 2011, 02:28:09 pm
Yeah someone does have it. It's here: http://vce.atarnotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,42506.0.html
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Ravit on June 14, 2011, 04:23:10 pm
What did you guys say for question 18, 19 of multiple choice ?
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Charmz on June 14, 2011, 04:23:59 pm
18. A
19. B
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Post by: Ravit on June 14, 2011, 04:28:59 pm
why is 19 B
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Post by: Ravit on June 14, 2011, 04:30:08 pm
dw i got it
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Post by: Ravit on June 14, 2011, 04:30:28 pm
what about 21
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Post by: Truck on June 14, 2011, 04:30:53 pm
why is 19 B

21 is C.
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Ravit on June 14, 2011, 04:31:43 pm
why cant it be b
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Truck on June 14, 2011, 04:36:13 pm
why cant it be b

Well in B the waters evaporating because the person was swimming, so it wasn't a homeostatic mechanism per say - the person's body could already be cold from swimming and this could be making him/her even colder, and temp. is controlled by negative feedback so that eliminates it.
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Ravit on June 14, 2011, 04:38:36 pm
Well isnt it controlling the body temperature of the individual to keep it within a narrow limit??
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Post by: Ravit on June 14, 2011, 04:39:03 pm
how did you describe the first short answer questions ?
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Truck on June 14, 2011, 04:44:32 pm
Well isnt it controlling the body temperature of the individual to keep it within a narrow limit??

I don't think so cause it's not sweat, it's not homeostasis as the body itself isn't causing it.
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Ravit on June 14, 2011, 04:46:12 pm
really, well i thought the CNS would send impulses to sweat glands to secrete sweat??? but oh well can you describe to me how the other one is an example of homeostasis?
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Charmz on June 14, 2011, 04:46:43 pm
The protien is water soluble because it contains the hydrophillic R group on the outside whereas the hydrophobic r group is inside and therefore the protien is water soluble. It was something along those lines i can't quite remember exactly what i wrote.
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Charmz on June 14, 2011, 04:49:01 pm
Because the cabbage grows in phosphorus deficient soil and lacks the essential phosphorus therefore there needs to be an increase in phosphorus as the plant releases phosphorus into the phloem from the tissue.
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Ravit on June 14, 2011, 04:49:25 pm
yeah i wrote the same as that except for the hydrophobic part being inside will that matter much???
What did you say for question MC 13, 16?
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Charmz on June 14, 2011, 04:52:03 pm
13. I say it's B it's possibly not. There seems to be a bit of confusion concerning that question.
16. D
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Charmz on June 14, 2011, 04:56:40 pm
There will be a reduction in the amount of T cells being produced as you age. Therefore have a weaker immune system.
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Ravit on June 14, 2011, 04:56:49 pm
i thought it would be C cause then the arms of the antibody can lengthen and widen allowing it to agglutinate better.
Yeah but for 16 right cause the pH is not at its optimum wouldnt that effect the shape of the active sites as pH 4 is not really an optimum for any of them ?  
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Truck on June 14, 2011, 04:59:30 pm
really, well i thought the CNS would send impulses to sweat glands to secrete sweat??? but oh well can you describe to me how the other one is an example of homeostasis?

No, like if the person was sweating it would be homeostasis. But if you look at the wording, he's wet from the water in the swimming pool. The fact that he went swimming = he's wet = evaporation = cooling him down, but his body isn't actually causing the water to be secreted like if he was sweating, it's just there cause he went swimming.

Sorry, that's the best way I can explain it =P.
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: liuetenant on June 14, 2011, 06:09:58 pm
what was the asnwer to MC Q5?
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: stonecold on June 14, 2011, 06:13:00 pm
what was the asnwer to MC Q5?

A

does anyone know the answer to question 2 . wasn't sure if triglycerides are found in plant cells or not?

B
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: Ravit on June 14, 2011, 06:34:59 pm
what did you guys say for question 13
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Post by: charsiuvce on June 14, 2011, 06:49:28 pm
i think answer to q13 MC is B
http://www.accessexcellence.org/RC/VL/GG/ecb/ecb_images/04_32_antibody.jpg
man, did i screw up this exam...
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: 3w3w3w on June 14, 2011, 06:51:03 pm
was 13 B?
and what was question 17 ?

and for 7d i , was the answer along the lines of celluar respiration and PHS being equal... ?  /compensation point?
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: lbeste12 on June 14, 2011, 06:57:48 pm
someone mind telling me what 22 was.
i might have had the right answer and changed it at the last moment :(
dang gut instinct hahaha

im feeling good so far. my guesses seem to have been educated enough...pretty sure i guessed atleast 2 fifths of the m/c.... :|
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Post by: 3w3w3w on June 14, 2011, 07:11:42 pm
think 22 was D
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Post by: nelsonzhang on June 14, 2011, 07:21:07 pm
think 22 was D
yea 22 was D
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Post by: lbeste12 on June 14, 2011, 07:24:18 pm
I had D down...then changed it to A in the last 10 seconds of the exam :(
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: charsiuvce on June 14, 2011, 09:31:50 pm
SOLUTIONS:
http://www.box.net/shared/ldje3h1spizskpualq4d

lost about 15 marks myself... :(
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Post by: The Full House on June 15, 2011, 07:24:38 am
Ahhh i think i lost heaps more than that =l crap
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Post by: ggxoxo on June 15, 2011, 07:40:59 am
Do you guys think for the ADP+Pi qn that they will give both A-without us of enzymes and the fermentation because technically you do not produce ATP in anaerobic resp. you do not produce ATP in fermentation; you only produce it in glycolysis
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Post by: Charmz on June 15, 2011, 07:47:43 am
pretty sure the answer is C-the yeast an fermentation one.
Title: Re: Please get hold of the exam paper
Post by: lexitu on June 15, 2011, 12:51:39 pm
100% sure the answer is C. ATP is produced in anaerobic respiration, glycolysis is part of anaerobic respiration / fermentation. Human cells such as mature RBCs contain no mitochondria and respire anaerobically.