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Archived Discussion => 2011 => Mid-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Physics => Topic started by: Shark 774 on June 16, 2011, 07:34:08 pm

Title: Detailed Studies?
Post by: Shark 774 on June 16, 2011, 07:34:08 pm
What did you guys think of your detailed study? My teacher said that structures and materials was ridiculously easy. I did relativity and thought it was at least twice as hard as it had ever been before, although still do-able.
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Post by: sam23z on June 16, 2011, 07:59:18 pm
How did you do relativity question 9? wouldn't you need to know the dilated time first?
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Post by: ttn on June 16, 2011, 08:00:43 pm
Further Electronics was fairly easy. 
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Post by: b^3 on June 16, 2011, 08:08:49 pm
yeh it was, except for one question which I had to guess, otherwise similar to previous years.
Title: Re: Detailed Studies?
Post by: Shark 774 on June 16, 2011, 09:10:21 pm
How did you do relativity question 9? wouldn't you need to know the dilated time first?

You work out the time that the scientists observe by using t = x/v and then find the proper time using the lorentz transformation.
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Post by: sam23z on June 16, 2011, 09:21:37 pm
oh...that's a lot easier than I thought, thanks
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Post by: ttn on June 16, 2011, 09:48:12 pm
yeh it was, except for one question which I had to guess, otherwise similar to previous years.

Which qn was this? Only qn I stuffed up was not noticing the 5.5V zener diode was in forward bias and therefore Vout would not be the 5.5V flat line.
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Post by: FromBaghdadWithLove on June 16, 2011, 09:58:21 pm
structures and materials, was NOT easy at all...
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Post by: b^3 on June 16, 2011, 11:01:51 pm
the last one, i think i subed in the wrong value and got an answer in between two choices. what did you get for that q12)?
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Post by: GuessWho on June 16, 2011, 11:05:58 pm
I put down C. Which was 1.6M. What did you get?
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Post by: b^3 on June 16, 2011, 11:09:48 pm
i think i ended up getting the 1.0Mohm but I'm preety sure im wrong.
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Post by: GuessWho on June 16, 2011, 11:14:08 pm
I don't know if I'm right but I used the formula t=RC and got R=2600000 and since the equipment and resistor were in series I assumed that that resistance was the combined of the two, so I just subtracted 1000000 from that and got 1.6M
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Post by: ttn on June 16, 2011, 11:25:22 pm
i chose D. 2.6Mohm, at 37% it was about 26 seconds.
That qn also had me stumped for a bit, assumed 37% was at the 30s mark, so I was getting 3.0M.
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Post by: GuessWho on June 16, 2011, 11:27:42 pm
Yea I was unsure whether I should've subtracted 1000000 from it to take into account the 1M resistor that present. Made a last minute decision and chose C.
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Post by: ttn on June 16, 2011, 11:27:49 pm
Oh crap, didn't notice it went back through the resistor again.

Damn... there goes another two marks from further electronics...
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Post by: GuessWho on June 16, 2011, 11:38:46 pm
Don't worry I did absolutely stupid mistakes on my exam too. Hopefully I'll still be able to get an A+. According to itute though the correct answer is D, so you might be right and I'm wrong. :(
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Post by: ttn on June 16, 2011, 11:41:58 pm
lol I reckon they prob made same mistake as I did and not notice that it went back through, if I noticed it, I would've  chosen 1.6.
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Post by: bahnj on June 17, 2011, 11:03:54 am
yeh it was, except for one question which I had to guess, otherwise similar to previous years.

Which qn was this? Only qn I stuffed up was not noticing the 5.5V zener diode was in forward bias and therefore Vout would not be the 5.5V flat line.
I made that exact same mistake and i was absolutely furious. The other mistake that I made was on question 2 where the voltage ripple would be neglieble because of the 50s time constant (possibly the most shifty question ever).
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Post by: pi on June 17, 2011, 11:05:54 am
I got one question wrong on Structures (the shop sign one). I'm cool with only losing 2 marks for detailed :D
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Post by: luffy on June 17, 2011, 03:53:50 pm
Further Electronics was fairly easy. 

Wow - you found further electronics easy? To me, it was the most difficult part of our exam this year. I lost a maximum of 2 marks on the rest of the exam.
Title: Re: Detailed Studies?
Post by: Shark 774 on June 17, 2011, 04:18:07 pm
Further Electronics was fairly easy. 

Wow - you found further electronics easy? To me, it was the most difficult part of our exam this year. I lost a maximum of 2 marks on the rest of the exam.

Same, but with relativity.
Title: Re: Detailed Studies?
Post by: GuessWho on June 17, 2011, 04:39:27 pm
I'll have to agree. Further Electronics was fairly easy. Full marks for it, but I dropped a mark because I forgot to square root my answer when I was calculating the period of the planet. *Facepalm*