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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: xox.happy1.xox on July 27, 2008, 09:10:41 pm
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Yes, I know it is early, but with only 8 days to go, what is everyone expecting?
I know how I was feeling last year, awaiting my Psychology results, only to end up getting a C. I was bitterly ashamed. :-\
Well, let's all stress it out in here! ;)
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haha yeah i totally forgot about results until a few days ago. then got scared.
I'm hoping for an A - A+ in bio!
and if i don't get A+ in psych, then i may cry!!!
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im expecting B to B+ for accounting
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If i get a shit mark I might just say I got an A+...
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I completely forgot about exam results. Damn you for reminding me :P
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ahhh
only 8 days! wow!
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LOL yeh i cant wait either, i am hoping to sneak in for a B in physics and A in chem.
The exam this year was hard i thought......
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I don't know what I'd do if I didn't get an A+ in Psych...... I'd be pissed thats for sure, also sad
:S
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LOL yeh i cant wait either, i am hoping to sneak in for a B in physics and A in chem.
The exam this year was hard i thought......
likewise
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I don't know what I'd do if I didn't get an A+ in Psych...... I'd be pissed thats for sure, also sad
:S
You will have to change your name. ;D
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im expecting B to B+ for accounting
Same here.
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I completely forgot about exam results. Damn you for reminding me :P
Lol, you're welcome :)
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Hoping for (expecting?) an A+ in Psychology.
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Hoping for A+s in both mine (chem n bio)
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hope to get A+s in phy, chem, bio, acc.
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hope to get A+s in phy, chem, bio, acc.
wow four mid-years
what was that like
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hope to get A+s in phy, chem, bio, acc.
wow four mid-years
what was that like
bet you he was wishing he did psych as well :P
argh~ i completely forgot too.
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Wow. So have all of you been already told when the mid year exam marks are coming out.
We had never been told.
So when exactly is the date that all students gets their mid-year marks
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4th of august! exactly a week!
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*has heart attack*
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As much as I wanna know what I got I'm dreading Monday.
Especially coz I know I could've studied way more.
I'm hoping for at least an A.
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By the way, you're under no obligation to look at your result, I had a friend who didn't look and just waited until ENTER day
Some people like that so they don't go 'oh shit I fail at life :(' or go 'yay, I can slack off' so they can just continue doing what they originally were doing
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I got 81 on the unit 1 psych exam and I topped my class.
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That what im going to do
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By the way, you're under no obligation to look at your result, I had a friend who didn't look and just waited until ENTER day
Some people like that so they don't go 'oh shit I fail at life :(' or go 'yay, I can slack off' so they can just continue doing what they originally were doing
Hmm.. I might do that.. but I know I'll end up looking..
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By the way, you're under no obligation to look at your result, I had a friend who didn't look and just waited until ENTER day
Some people like that so they don't go 'oh shit I fail at life :(' or go 'yay, I can slack off' so they can just continue doing what they originally were doing
Hmm.. I might do that.. but I know I'll end up looking..
I PLANNED to not look
Lasted about 45 mins sitting there staring at the stupid envelope before I couldn't resist opening it any longer *rolls eyes*
Oh and Mel - are you thinking of a certain person with the initials T.A.?
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Yes :)
oh and I opened mine after about 15 seconds :D
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I would have never considered not opening it. Especially since on the day the coordinators said that even the people who didn't have a mid-year should look at the piece of paper to make sure they were passing.
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Our bio teacher said you should definitely look at it, coz if your results are wrong (i know, not very likely but still...) and you don't check till later it might be too late to check your exams for correction mistakes.
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Our bio teacher said you should definitely look at it, coz if your results are wrong (i know, not very likely but still...) and you don't check till later it might be too late to check your exams for correction mistakes.
Your teacher should really be looking at your classes results and picking that up.
Failing that, someone you can trust can look :P
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I'm opening mine. But i'm gonna do it at home.
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hope to get an A+ in psycjology, but a high A will still be good!
Is everyone getting a statement of marks?
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Is everyone getting a statement of marks?
I'm considering getting a statement for psychology. Just so I know.
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Is everyone getting a statement of marks?
I might get one..
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Is everyone getting a statement of marks?
Yeah, i will.
It just doesn't feel right not knowing exactly what i got lolz.
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yeah i'm getting one too....arghhh it's going to be the hardest envelope i've ever opened lol.
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Our bio teacher said you should definitely look at it, coz if your results are wrong (i know, not very likely but still...) and you don't check till later it might be too late to check your exams for correction mistakes.
Your teacher should really be looking at your classes results and picking that up.
Failing that, someone you can trust can look :P
your teacher isn't allowed to tell you, that your failing, if you haven't opened it. They can only discuss ur result if you go to them.
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Not long now... :(
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Not long now... :(
lol stop thinking about it and it will go quicker!!!!!
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this is probably a stupid question but does anyone know when we get our results for the mid years? i did my physics mid year exam and wasnt sure when and if you can get a result now or just an S or N?
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Btw on the 4th Aug, do we get a letter sent showing our mid year results or do we go online and check? Does this also show Gat result?
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you get a letter, and you don't get your GAT result, that's at the end of the year when you get your ENTER
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this is probably a stupid question but does anyone know when we get our results for the mid years? i did my physics mid year exam and wasnt sure when and if you can get a result now or just an S or N?
You get a letter grade, and if you want the actual raw mark you have to pay like $9-ish for it.
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Gah i wish the Monash open day was next weekend so if i stuff up pych i wont have to go to it...
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Can we get out result online?
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Can we get out result online?
nope
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Only you get the results right? Does any information get sent to your teacher?
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Only you get the results right? Does any information get sent to your teacher?
They may look if they wish, since all the scores are up on the VASS server.
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At my school, they like to rank students... Lots of our teachers play favourites :(
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At my school, they like to rank students... Lots of our teachers play favourites :(
yep. If you do bad in the unit 3 exam, they will pick on you in unit 4 >.<
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Hehe, let's silently hope not ... :D
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And if you do well you get special treatment. :D ;D
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lol am i the only one who doesn't care?
im not expecting a good grade at all, C+ for chem, so that might have something to do with it. If i get less than C+, then i will be shattered haha.
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And if you do well you get special treatment. :D ;D
thats sooooo true....
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And if you do well you get special treatment. :D ;D
lmao is this from personal experience?
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Yeah! :)
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Bah, everything turned out wrong and not how I imagined it. I'm doing bad in Bio but doing good in Psych but for some reason I was impressed with my Bio score but disappointed with my Psych. I wanna see where I went wrong in the exam but too cheap to fork out $18 for both exams :P
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Only you get the results right? Does any information get sent to your teacher?
They may look if they wish, since all the scores are up on the VASS server.
That sucks.
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Yeah it does suck. Coz then teachers for your other subjects can find out your scores and grades for all your other subjects, even if you don't want them to know.
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Are the mid year grade raw or scaled.
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What do you mean raw or scaled?
The letter grade sticks, as does the numerical value of your grade. It does not change.
The end of year Study Score is what is raw or scaled (study score is raw and subject score is scaled as far as I know)
If you got an A on this exam, it will always be an A
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Yeah it does suck. Coz then teachers for your other subjects can find out your scores and grades for all your other subjects, even if you don't want them to know.
That sucks even more.
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i heard that there is such a thing as low A or high A etc low A+?
can anyone explain?
does it affect ur chances and opportunities?
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i heard that there is such a thing as low A or high A etc low A+?
can anyone explain?
does it affect ur chances and opportunities?
High A+ just refers to your mark being at the higher end of an A+.
For example, if the A+ range was 80-90 out of 90, we would consider around 86-90 to be a high A+...
It's not an "official" VCAA term or anything.
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i heard that there is such a thing as low A or high A etc low A+?
can anyone explain?
does it affect ur chances and opportunities?
Basically your numerical score is categorised into a letter score (eg. A+ or A) but say if the A+ cut off was 80/90 and you got 81/90, but someone else got 90/90... your mark would be a LOW A+ and theres would be a HIGH A+. Basically this means that while you both got an A+, there mark was higher than yours and thus if you both performed at the same level as you did both for the mid-year exam (for the end of year exam), they would be lined up for a 50 SS while you would be lined up for a lower range 40+.
Even though you could both have A+ A+ A+.... the actual numerical value of the A+ does change the score that you are given.
So it definitely does affect your ENTER and if you like 'your chances and opportunites'.
In this way, it can be seen that a HIGH A and a LOW A+'s are very similar marks, but one sounds better than the other lol. (sometimes there is only 1 mark differnce etc)
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thx for explanation. i believe u can see ur exam paper later.. is it true
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You can see it now if you want (now, as in within the next few weeks)
Follow the link below
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/schooladmin/forms/vce/statemarksinspectscripts.pdf
Getting a Statement of Marks (alternatively) allows you to see what mark you got (numerical) , eg. 82/90
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can you view your exam marks online? if so what website
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can you view your exam marks online? if so what website
no, only on results day.
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but can u actually get the paper to see??
and try to pick up errors of the markers?etc
kind of strange but hey..
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but can u actually get the paper to see??
and try to pick up errors of the markers?etc
kind of strange but hey..
only by inspection
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What do you mean raw or scaled?
The letter grade sticks, as does the numerical value of your grade. It does not change.
The end of year Study Score is what is raw or scaled (study score is raw and subject score is scaled as far as I know)
If you got an A on this exam, it will always be an A
So what you mean I got a B for chemistry has that grade been affect by scalling yet or that is my actual proper mark without scalling.
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Your letter grades aren't scaled. Your study score is.
Eg. A+ A+ A+ = 42 (raw- before scaling)... might scale up to 47 depending on the subject
It is the study score that is scaled, not the numerical value of the A+'s
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O really
So you are telling me that I got a B without scalling in chemistry. Omg.
This is something.
To make sure I have understood this
Lets say the exam was out of 100. I got 70/100 which is the B I got without being moderated against other people.
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For the statement of marks,
Do they tell you what you got for each question. ie 4/5
or just the total number of marks you achieved on the whole exam.
Cheers
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For the statement of marks,
Do they tell you what you got for each question. ie 4/5
or just the total number of marks you achieved on the whole exam.
Cheers
They tell you both :)
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i got a B for my mid yrs accounting, average i guess (was expecting it or a b+)
and i was wondering... wat score do i need to get at my end of yr exam to achieve a 35+ in accounting? (note: i'm averaging A+ for SACs currently)
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My friend got
B+(midyear mark) A (SAC mark) A+(end of year mark) = 36
So aim for an A/A+?
:)
Costa
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A+ end of yr? for only a 36?..ooo dam...
Thanks for the heads-up :)
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Looking over the statistics,
For biology, the ratio of females to males is 1.93 : 1
For physics, the ratio of females to males is 1 : 3.22
For psychology, the ratio of females to males is 2.79 : 1
I reckon that's pretty interesting!
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i got a B for my mid yrs accounting, average i guess (was expecting it or a b+)
exactly the same as me.. I messed up.. :(
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B is actually above average guys :) So don't be too disheartened :)
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so if u get an A+ on midyear..n then get A on the end of yr exam..will that A dramatically bring you down?
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so if u get an A+ on midyear..n then get A on the end of yr exam..will that A dramatically bring you down?
Not necessairily, it all depends on how High or Low your A and A+ was.
Even a low A could still get you around the 37-39 mark
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Looking over the statistics,
For biology, the ratio of females to males is 1.93 : 1
For physics, the ratio of females to males is 1 : 3.22
For psychology, the ratio of females to males is 2.79 : 1
I should've done physics instead of bio :P
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Looking over the statistics,
For biology, the ratio of females to males is 1.93 : 1
For physics, the ratio of females to males is 1 : 3.22
For psychology, the ratio of females to males is 2.79 : 1
I should've done physics instead of bio :P
I should've done bio instead of physics :P
actually, take that back.
psych instead of physics :P
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Mao or Dcc, just wondering, have either of you posted your marks on VN or not?
Just can't remember seeing them.
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O really
So you are telling me that I got a B without scalling in chemistry. Omg.
This is something.
To make sure I have understood this
Lets say the exam was out of 100. I got 70/100 which is the B I got without being moderated against other people.
that is correct. exam scores are not statistically moderated.
however, also keep in mind that statistical moderation is not scaling.
statistical moderation is changing SAC scores (a GA) according to exam scores.
scaling is changing study scores according to competition and "difficulty".
completely different things, neither of which involve directly changing exam scores.
exam scores does NOT change.
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Mao or Dcc, just wondering, have either of you posted your marks on VN or not?
Just can't remember seeing them.
nope. I don't plan to, and dcc has made a huge effort to not tell anyone else
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Mao or Dcc, just wondering, have either of you posted your marks on VN or not?
Just can't remember seeing them.
we had a secret share on irc
p.s. i told by accident
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Mao or Dcc, just wondering, have either of you posted your marks on VN or not?
Just can't remember seeing them.
nope. I don't plan to, and dcc has made a huge effort to not tell anyone else
Thats cool :) Just wondering
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so if im above average, and the average is like 30 i'll say?
a 'B' is like wat then?
plz correct me if im wrong lol
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so if im above average, and the average is like 30 i'll say?
a 'B' is like wat then?
plz correct me if im wrong lol
like 31-34... i think
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I think if you got B B+ B you would get maybe 32?
If you get B+ on end of year maybe 33-34? MAYBE
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I'm glad many people got the results they wanted :P
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what about B A+ A?
OR B A A?
OR B A+ A+
OR B A B+
im assumin the middle mark is the SACs mark so yea
Soz for all the combinations, but its urgent!! lol
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Lol omg.... Soz its just too complicated to make really good estimations but ill give it a go anyway
1. Maybe 35?
2. Maybe 34-35
3. Maybe 35-37 (probz not 37 thou)
4. Maybe 34
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Lol omg.... Soz its just too complicated to make really good estimations but ill give it a go anyway
1. Maybe 35?
2. Maybe 34-35
3. Maybe 35-37 (probz not 37 thou)
4. Maybe 34
aighhtt thanks (Y)
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spot on in all costargh I'd say
though its very ambiguous and hard to judge because the B A+ A+ could be a 40 if those A+'s were 100% but if they were the lowest quality, it could also be a 34
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Yeh exactly. I go with the most probable score though. :P
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I think if you got B B+ B you would get maybe 32?
If you get B+ on end of year maybe 33-34? MAYBE
What about D+ what range is it. My mate is wondering but too stuck up to sign up and ask lol.
D+ B C+ ( roughly C+ because he is acing unit 4)is around 28?
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^ Yeah, I think probably around 28/29.
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Would a study score of 30-35 be possible if I got a C+ for the mid-year but finished with 92/100 for unit 3 sacs?
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Would a study score of 30-35 be possible if I got a C+ for the mid-year but finished with 92/100 for unit 3 sacs?
depends on how your school goes in the exam
it appears your ranking is fairly high (?), if you have a good cohort [that scores well in the exam] the moderation process will be in your favour, and you should be able to get in the 30~35 range
also keep in mind that for subjects with mid-year exams, SACs are totalled from unit 3 and unit 4, and together count as a single GA. so you'd also want to keep that average up for U4 SACs
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hmm what about (asking for a friend):
A, A+, A+
A,A,A+
? thanks,
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1) it depends on which subject (competition in that subject, as well as weighting of each GA for that subject)
2) school/cohort performance in the exam (statistical moderation of SACs)
3) it depends on where the grade sit (high A+ is very different to low A+)
it is very hard to make a prediction for study-scores, you can only try to do as well as you can.
but based on gut feeling:
A, A+, A+ might be low 40s
A,A,A+ might be high 30s
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if the A was high,
and both A+ was high,
is there a chance of a mid 40's?
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Would a study score of 30-35 be possible if I got a C+ for the mid-year but finished with 92/100 for unit 3 sacs?
depends on how your school goes in the exam
it appears your ranking is fairly high (?), if you have a good cohort [that scores well in the exam] the moderation process will be in your favour, and you should be able to get in the 30~35 range
also keep in mind that for subjects with mid-year exams, SACs are totalled from unit 3 and unit 4, and together count as a single GA. so you'd also want to keep that average up for U4 SACs
The school did really crap
:(
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I have a question, how does the rest of your cohort doing good/bad affect your score? I'm just curious. :)
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something along the lines of: http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,581.msg12582.html#msg12582
i.e. your SAC GA score depends largely on the cohort.
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Question, my accounting class has a partnership with another school, my teacher only recieved the results for our class. Does this mean that VCAA will only check our class against our results in SACs or will they also check the other classes (partnership class)?
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Question, my accounting class has a partnership with another school, my teacher only recieved the results for our class. Does this mean that VCAA will only check our class against our results in SACs or will they also check the other classes (partnership class)?
if by partnership you meant your class is in a joint cohort with partnership classes because of small class-sizes, then yes.
VCAA will treat the partnership as a single cohort, and the SACs of all the classes will be moderated together (hence the exam scores for all classes will be used).
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Question, my accounting class has a partnership with another school, my teacher only recieved the results for our class. Does this mean that VCAA will only check our class against our results in SACs or will they also check the other classes (partnership class)?
if by partnership you meant your class is in a joint cohort with partnership classes because of small class-sizes, then yes.
VCAA will treat the partnership as a single cohort, and the SACs of all the classes will be moderated together (hence the exam scores for all classes will be used).
Oh dear. Oh well, thank you Mao!
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Hey i got A+ for chem and A for physics.
I also got A for sacs for physics......
So wat are my chances of getting a 40 for physics cuz i wanna root this subject.
My sacs were mid A and exam was mid-high A....
so if i end up with
A A A+ A+ can i still get there?
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ganges: how did u get ur statement of results so quick.
did u get it sent to school or went to vcaa?
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How about you just try your best, and see how you do.
Don't worry about the possibilities of getting certain scores.
The less time worrying about it, and the more time studying, the more likely you will 'root' this subject.
No-one can actually predict your precise scores from just letter grades!
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ganges: how did u get ur statement of results so quick.
did u get it sent to school or went to vcaa?
I got mine today, I ordered it a while back though
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what exactly is on the scripts?
do they have marks . comments. or ticks or crosses on them ?
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It has how many marks you scored for each question.
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I wish they stated why you got the question wrong... Many of us are curious... But I guess that is what inspection is for :)
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OMG GUYS... I GOT AN EMAIL FROM VCAA (SENT ON FRIDAY) SAYING THAT "an error has occurred in the calculation of your mid-year exam result" AND I WILL BE CONTACTED SOON TO BE NOTIFIED OF THE OUTCOME :(
FUCK IM SO SAD:(
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Huh? You are kidding right?
Further more, how the hell does VCAA know your email?
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Are they even allowed to decrease your score if they made an error!?
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I'm thinking along the same lines as Ahmad; in 2006 when they stuffed up the methods/spec study scores, they only adjusted scores higher, they didn't lower anyone's SS that was erronously high.
Anyway, I hope its good news
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lol nah im a mean prick. didnt happen.
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lol nah im a mean prick. didnt happen.
omg I come stab u now. My weapon of choice is a pencil
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Sorry :( I've been having thoughts that that would happen so for some reason I wrote it here lol. Silly me. Studying while watching the Olympics is hard work :(
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OMG GUYS... I GOT AN EMAIL FROM VCAA (SENT ON FRIDAY) SAYING THAT "an error has occurred in the calculation of your mid-year exam result" AND I WILL BE CONTACTED SOON TO BE NOTIFIED OF THE OUTCOME :(
FUCK IM SO SAD:(
is this a joke?
Edit: Shit I didn't read the posts below your first one costargh and didn't see that caramel said the same thing as me
im a douche :idiot2:
EDIT: EDIT: just read costarghs post that it really was a joke
Im a douche... :idiot2: :uglystupid2:
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The fact that VCAA would've known his email gave it away, really (though for half a split second I believed it).
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lol yea, mail woulda been better... but then again, you got it at 9:47 PM :D?
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te he he :)
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LOL...i believed it for a sec :P
But omg...if that seriously happened, i'd like totally freak out :(
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for the inspection, do u actually get to see the exam??
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for the inspection, do u actually get to see the exam??
What else would inspection be?