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VCE Stuff => VCE Languages Other Than English (LOTE) => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Chinese SL & SLA => Topic started by: 2happy on November 15, 2007, 03:47:48 pm
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Anyone?
I think there's only like 500 each year who do it.. so; pretty rare
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你好！
Chinese will very most likely be my 7th subject, because the background speakers pwn me in the listening, because it simply contains words I've never heard before, and I listen and I can tell 'that is the answer right there but I have no idea what it means and can't find it in the dictionary from educatedly guessing the pinyin.'
You're lucky next year they will severly cut down it =P
Like for my practise exam we did a month ago, 23/30, 30/30, 15/15, it pwns me :(
Haven't really touched chinese since then xD
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I wish I did Chinese ... then I'd be one of those background speakers that pwn Mel at listening instead of being pwned by German listening lol :(
I don't have characters on this comp .... so ....
ni hao! :P
da jia kao shi zhun bei de ze me yang? wo xi wang ni men dou kao de wu shi fen :)
.... I hope that makes sense :P
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Ni hao!
Yin wei wo zhe ge xing qi you wu li, hua xue he shu xue kao shi, suo yi wo bu lai xue xiao zuo wo de lao shi de practise exams, ke she ta jin tian gao su wo ta ming tian hui gei wo listening CD, suo yi wo zhuo mo de shi hou ke yi ting. :)
Wo xi wang ni ye kao de wu shi fen :P Ni de De yu bi wo de Han yu hao =)
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haha wo de de yu oral kao shi kao de hen cha.
frau pollard ye ge wo hen duo listening tapes. wo bu xi huan listening :(
yao shi you ren xu yao de hua, wo yuan yi bang zhu ni fu xi :)
haha yay for mixing 3 languages together :D
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'de hua' he 'fu xi' you shen me yi si? :P
Yin wei xue xiao you 29 han yu xue sheng, hen duo xue sheng, suo yi wo men bu neng borrow cds. wo fei chang lucky wo zhou mo de shi hou ke yi borrow. probably yin wei wo shi yi ge hao xue sheng xD
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'de hua' he 'fu xi' you shen me yi si? :P
ru guo + de hua = "if" .... yeah its a lot for a 2-letter word isn't it :P
fu xi = revision ^^
mel shi zui hao de xue sheng. mel yao de 99.95 :D
correction: mel yao de jiu shi jiu dian jiu wu :P
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Ni shuo cuo le. Mel kao de jiu jiu.jiu wu de probability shi negative :)
nina shi... zui zui hao de xue sheng. Ru guo VCE mei you stupid unfair scaling, nina yi ding shou dao xue xiao li zui da de enter.
mel just lucky ta xi huan 'ya zhou wu' de ke mu =/
edit from shuo dao to shou dao, i cant speel
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'ya zhou wu'
hahahaha :P
wo hen shu xue :( wei shen me VCAA bu neng gei international studies jia shi wu fen :(
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hello :) i am doing chinese sl beginners too ! :) i'm going to get owned bad because although i am chinese . i only started learning mandarin in year 8 -_- regret telling my mum i didn't want to when i was younger . lol and i'm cantonese . so it doesn't really help much there .. but anws . how do you know there's only 500 students ? is that good or bad ?
那．．我就開始寫漢語囉 ~ 呵呵..我覺得你們的漢語寫得滿好耶 ~ 我的漢語啊.. -_- 呵呵.. 不要提啦.. 我的口語考試考得真不好 .. 讓我很不開心哦~ -_- 唉 很慘耶.. 那.. 你們用甚麼方法學習漢語啊? 有沒有特別的方法啊 ? 我呀..我就跟其他朋友用漢語聊天還有看tvb satellite的電視節目.. 我有叫我爸爸跟我練習漢語但是他不要跟我說漢語-___- 他每次跟我講漢語的時候, 會說一句話然後就開始說廣東話 -___- .. 唉 ~ 怎麼辦耶! 然後..我的漢語文章常常寫得不好啊 -_- 我每次要查詞典 .. 就會覺得很浪費時間囉.. 呵呵.. 聽說拿到40+ 的raw study score 很難耶~ 我不知道啊.. 我真的要拿到40+ .. 因為其他的考試考得不好 .. 哈哈 .. 其中两個是數學 + literature -__- 令人很討厭耶! 那.. 你們的考試考的怎麼樣 ? 希望是很好的啦! 呵呵 加油! 漢語考試是我們的最後的考試啦! 哇..我們考完的時候終於可以休息啦!
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你好 :)
我是在北京生的，六岁来到澳大利亚。我的男朋友是香港人，所以他也说广东话 :P 听的好怪，一点儿都不象普通话！
呵呵你写的大部分我都看不懂，应为我不认繁体字典 :oops: 我没有学汉语； 我在学德语，真难呀！ 应为我说普通话说的还可以，但是写的非常差 :( 我的口语考试也考的不太好，太紧张了，说的乱了 :(
hehe Mel did you understand that or do I completely suck at speaking proper chinese .... cos I think a lot of that was slang :P
She was writing traditional chinese characters ... I couldn't understand half of them :(
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ni hao, wo de zhong wen hua fei chang shit. LOL excuse my burst of English, can't help it.
wo yi jing wang ji hen duo zi, yin wei wo quit xue hua yu er nian (before). wo zhi dao ni men xie shen me, dan shi, wo zhi zi bu hui shuo/xie. =)
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Nina I understand some of it. But there's a lot of characters I haven't seen before, and a few which I have seen but don't remember what they mean xD
Also when we learn proper chinese we don't tend to learn characteristics of spoken language (yay for english language!) like 呵呵 :P
Ni hao toothpick. Wo xi huan ni de han yu, yin wei wo dong le mei yi ge han zi :)
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呵呵 = haha :P and it's pronounced that way too :P
toothpick 你在家里说汉语吗?
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oh sorry ! -____- i'm so dumb . lol it's cos whenever i change to type in chinese i'm used to putting it in traditional lol i'll rewrite it in simplified ! :D
那。。我就开始写汉语啰 ~ 呵呵。。我觉得你们的汉语写得蛮好耶~ 我的汉语啊。。 不要提啦.. -__- 我的口语考试考得真不好。。让我很不开心哦~ 唉。。很惨耶。。 那。。 你们用什么方法学习汉语啊？有没有特别的方法啊？我呀。。 我没有一种方法但是我就通常根子它朋友用汉语聊天还有看tvb satellite的电视节目。我有叫我爸爸跟我联系汉语但是他不要跟我说汉语。。 他每次跟我讲汉语的时候，会说一句话然后就开始说广东话 。。 唉。。 怎么办耶。。 然后。。我的汉语文章常常写得不好啊。。我每次要查词典。。就会觉得很浪费时间啰。。呵呵 听说拿到40+分的 raw study score 其实很难耶！我不知道啊。。我真的要拿到40+。。 因为其他的考试考得真不好 ：（ 哈哈 其中两个是数学 + literature -_- 令人好讨厌耶！ ：（ 那。。你们的考试考得怎么样？希望是蛮好的啦~ 呵呵！ 加油！汉语考试是我们的最后的考试啦! 哇。。我们考完的时候终于可以休息啦！
sorry if my chinese is bad . lol . i have a tendency to mix it up with cantonese alot -_- like all the ending particles .. i don't think mandarin people actually use them ? i'm not sure . hehe .
那。。你们上那所学校啊？呵呵 。。 我有一位朋友在macrob 学德语。。她觉得德语蛮有意思的 。。我的口语考试啊。。也是耶！ 那时候我真的超紧张 ：（ 我不要我的vce成绩啦。。哈哈：（ 那。。你懂不懂广东话啊？
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toothpick 你在家里说汉语吗?
在家, 我说潮州话. =) 我有 TVB 所 以 我 hui 听 cantonese (可 是 我 不 hui shuo).
我 不 xi huan typing in chinese 因為 it takes too long. LOL.
Glad you understand me cara.mel! Haha, wo hen crap at this. =D
*goes back to French*
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LOL i know. It's sooo much easier to type in german!!
Guten Tag, wie gehts? :P
lyn123 你的汉语非常好, 比我的好. 我在家说普通话但是老的用很多英文词,因为我中文真的太差了:(
得40+非常难! 大部分时间必须都考A+才行.
我十年级也学了音乐,但是我学的是solo.你弹什么乐器?
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谢谢哦！但是我的中文啊。。唉 如果你听我说话的时候啊。。你就会觉得蛮难听的 哈哈。。我写字的时候也不清楚。。:(
那。。我就4啦。我一定要考到40+ 哈哈。。但是好像没有机会啦。。我的VCE成绩一定会很低。。4啦。。
嗯。。我弹钢琴+小提琴。。那你呢？呵呵。。什么时候开始学啊？嗯。。好像没有介绍我自己给大家。。呵呵。。我叫黄家连。名字不像一个女生的对吗？哈哈。
你们的考试考得怎么样耶？
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Interesting. I've never seen to many squares lined up in a line before.
It's like...
squaresquaresquaresquareinternational studies square shit square
I'm screwed for Chinese. Just give me a 35 and leave it at that, eh VCAA?
I'm one of those bums that get the answer straight off the tape, hehe.
But my essay writing is shocking, so you can make up marks there.
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Lol . Are you Chinese ?
How did your oral go ? Mine went horrid . I was stuttering .. and it was quite funny actually .. because I ran into my examiner a few days later . LOL and I found out my Taiwanese friend is her niece and she's also my friend's teacher .. I'm still too scared to ask her how I went . Lol she probably forgot anyways .. I doubt I left a good impression . Lol .
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da bian (closest translation)
I don't know. My examiners never asked anything weird, and they had this fake smile on the whole time.
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da bian (closest translation)
I don't know. My examiners never asked anything weird, and they had this fake smile on the whole time.
Yeah, I'm Chinese. I'm only good at oral conversation, listening & R&R. Thank god it gives the most marks. Detailed Study coulda gone better though.
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LOL Kingmar. I just saw your Bann-ability thing. Haha.
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well i was an idiot to say that i had previously learnt french .. they suddenly took that as a conversation topic and asked me "fa yu gen han yu you shen me qu bie?" and i was like ..err.."ni bu yao yong han zi xue fa yu" and ..... ackward silences . there were so many ackward silences ! and then for my detailed study they said "wang zi cheng long shi shen me yi si" and then i answered it with "wang zi cheng long shi fu mu xi wang hai zi jiang lai hui you chu xi.." and then they looked like they were waiting for more .. so i was like ummmm.....-___-;; ! and then they asked me opinion questions about my detailed study .. not even any questions to actually do with the information i studied ..
but my friend .. she was worse i guess .. cos she just moved from singapore last year .. and she somehow (i don't know how) managed to get into chinese sl beginners .. and in the oral .. they asked her .. "how long have you been learning chinese" lol and she answered "more than 10 years" lol and it was liek .. ackward silence .. and then apparantly they full on changed the level of difficulty for the questions to try and trick her into saying that mandarin is her first language .. -_-
but are you mandarin or cantonese or ?? hehe ..
my oral accessors kept giggling in a very disturbing manner O.O
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lol, my oral was pretty awkward too .... the lady that came to the door to collect me looked a bit caught out that I'm Chinese :P but then I walked in and the other examiner looked Japanese or something ...... ?!
and my examiners kept nodding at every little thing I said ... it felt pretty weird. The first question was Beschreiben Sie Ihre Familie (describe your family) and all I'd said was "Es gibt vier Leute" (there are 4 people) and they were already smiling and nodding and going "OHHHHHH" like I'd said the most interesting thing in the world =\
I wish I didn't drop Chinese lol. German listening comprehension pwns me to the max :(
oh and .... 我弹钢琴 :) 我的考试考的真差 :( 英文是我最好的课, 但是不知道为什么, 当天写坏了, biology & chemistry 也考的不太好 :( 我本来希望得九十九以上, 但是先在不可能了 :cry:
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I've studied Chinese for ~8 years. But I suck so much I've had to repeat grades, hence my French(since prep) progressed past it. LOL
*shame*
(plus I get owned by the background speakers too)
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when is ur german written exam ?? good luck ! :)
well i regret dropping french and not picking up japanese . i love languages .. and not to mention the fact that they are all scaled up . 3 languages ~ gees . if only i had put more thought into my subject choices -_- lol
i am getting owned by so many people . like all my chinese friends (who speak mandarin at home) are in sl beginners ! -___- gah damnit i need a 40 ! lol . to save my vce from what it's become :(
which schools do you go to ?
and also . how do you guys (the ones learning atm) practice chinese ? like .. do you write alot of essays and stuff to practice ? or just do practice comprehension questions ? i hate the fact that i know cantonese because it screws up my mandarin bad :( in a way it's an advantage cos there are still similarities but cantonese is very colloquial :( sooo it doesn't help much with proper mandarin sentence structures and grammar -_-
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wait, toothpick, aren't you chinese? :?
German written is next Tuesday .... I think. I am gonna get absolutely killed by the listening bit. Writing I can do fine, just the listening .... :(
I dunno bout chinese but for german I just write practice essays. My teacher also gave me heaps of listening tapes to practice, and also a booklet of reading comprehension practices. I've been neglecting german for international studies tho ..... I think I can wing german but IS I actually need to study for :P
我狠考试!!!!!
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yeah i reckon i can wing chinese too . lol but i really need the good mark . lol because i had like 2 friends that are both from hongkong, super good at mandarin (started learning when they were like 5 or something) and one got 32 and one got 36 .. so that kinda scares me alot ! because i know my level is nowhere near as good as theres ! lol so far i'm just doing a hsk chinese proficiency tests . but it's abit too simple -_- hmm i have a habit of when writing essays i manage to write alot of "fei hua" lol and lose the actual point -_- and apparantly word limits are very important . which means i really need to cut the crap :( thank goodness i have just under a week to still practice chinese :D
which school do you go to ?
wo ye hen tao yan vce de kao shi :(
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wait, toothpick, aren't you chinese? :?
German written is next Tuesday .... I think. I am gonna get absolutely killed by the listening bit. Writing I can do fine, just the listening .... :(
I dunno bout chinese but for german I just write practice essays. My teacher also gave me heaps of listening tapes to practice, and also a booklet of reading comprehension practices. I've been neglecting german for international studies tho ..... I think I can wing german but IS I actually need to study for :P
我狠考试!!!!!
In a way yes. Lol. Too mixed to say a definite.
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Oh are you mixed ? So lucky you're doing French . Lol I slightly regret not doing it :( but then again I would get owned bad by all the pro French speakers that can really get the accents going .. Lol but the scaling would be good enough to overcome this I guess .
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I dropped French after unit 1.
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我狠考试!!!!!
And the second character in that is what? :P
I am european background noob remember =)
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oh really ? what nationalities are you ? well . i'm just abc .. lol well malaysian chinese . :)
na ni jin nian xue shen me ke a ?
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wo de ke mu zai wo de siggy
Long story :P okayyyyyy
One side has been here for 5 generations or so and half goes back to scotland half to england
Other side has been here 2 generations. Does around the area like check republic (yeah I know thats spelt wrong), switzerland, germany, france etc.
In short, I like to say I'm australian and leave it at that :P
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我狠考试!!!!!
And the second character in that is what? :P
I am european background noob remember =)
hate :P
come on mel you shoulda guessed that it was something like hate/dislike/want to burn/etc :P
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oh opps . hehe wow you are quite mixed ! lol my parents are malaysian chinese . my grandparents are from guang zhou .
wo jue de ni hen nu li de ! hehe .. ni shi ao da li ya ren dan shi ni hai xue zhong wen ! zhen pei fu ni o ~ :D hai you.. zhe ge "狠" de yi si shi .. "hate" .. pin yin shi "hen" lol
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Xie xie ni men :) Wo zhi dao 'tao yan' shi 'hate'， ke shi wo bu xue guo qi ta de words.
Like for my detailed study, the only way I know how to say 'in the past' was 'yi qian'. I remember one of the teachers trying to teach me another way to say it but I forgot it 0=）
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大家好,原来这里有这么多中国人,我才刚刚发现!
i finished my chinese sla last year, although i was very confident, even my teacher said 45+ wasn't a problem for me, i only received 39 study score, which was very dissapointing >.< , my chinese is much better than my english, although i've been here for 7 years.
from my experience, the chinese SLA exam was very flawed. the weighing is completely unreasonable, an essay which takes 50mins to write have the same amount of marks to a PART of reading and responding question, which was filling in some missing information in a resume.
you can see it from the front cover of last years paper, the essay with suggested time 50/120 mins worth only 15/75 marks.
the person wrote the exam is such an idiot.
theres more such as question 14 of last years paper, absurd question to ask, doesn't test chinese knowledge at all.
and, an independent chinese school, the chinese culture school mont albert, they cheat the exams, their principle is the one who wrote the chinese exams, and its really unfair for other schools. you having people with really shit chinese getting high marks from that school, cos theres too much flaws in the system.
我昨天已经做完全部的考试了^.^可以玩了
做中文的朋友们加油吧!!! ,还有德语也加油!
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呵呵 你好！谢谢哦~
嗯。。那我就死啦。。哈哈 一定不会考到40+ raw 了! 我的口语考试已经stuffup 我的成绩了。
if you don't mind me asking, what grades did you get for chinese last year ? straight a+？
which part of china are you from ? hehe
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恩,都是A+ A+ A+, 但是拿到39...written exam took most marks i guess.
你考试加油吧, SL+分很多很多的, 就算拿3x也很好咯.
还有,我是北京人
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我也是北京人! :)
你几岁来到澳大利亚? 我六岁来的. 所以已经在这带了十二年了. 我的英语比我的汉语好 :oops:
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我也是北京人! :)
你几岁来到澳大利亚? 我六岁来的. 所以已经在这带了十二年了. 我的英语比我的汉语好 :oops:
:D :D 哈!! 我4年纪的时候来的, 好像是9岁吧,但是我在家还有和朋友都说中文,所以汉语要好很多. 还有我的学校balwynhigh 也很多华人.
2个星期后我就回北京玩了^.^
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大家好,原来这里有这么多中国人,我才刚刚发现!
i finished my chinese sla last year, although i was very confident, even my teacher said 45+ wasn't a problem for me, i only received 39 study score, which was very dissapointing >.< , my chinese is much better than my english, although i've been here for 7 years.
from my experience, the chinese SLA exam was very flawed. the weighing is completely unreasonable, an essay which takes 50mins to write have the same amount of marks to a PART of reading and responding question, which was filling in some missing information in a resume.
you can see it from the front cover of last years paper, the essay with suggested time 50/120 mins worth only 15/75 marks.
the person wrote the exam is such an idiot.
theres more such as question 14 of last years paper, absurd question to ask, doesn't test chinese knowledge at all.
and, an independent chinese school, the chinese culture school mont albert, they cheat the exams, their principle is the one who wrote the chinese exams, and its really unfair for other schools. you having people with really shit chinese getting high marks from that school, cos theres too much flaws in the system.
我昨天已经做完全部的考试了^.^可以玩了
做中文的朋友们加油吧!!! ,还有德语也加油!
hey also . lol i asked my friend .. lol cos she goes to the mont albert cultural school . and she said that the principal doesn't write the exams ? hm but she's abit confused too . .so maybe he does ? lol . i went to beijing last year / this year january ! :D it was snowing :)
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about whether the principle wrote the exam, im not 100%sure cos i heard from other people, but if you look at the vce high scorer in the herald sun last year, 70-80% of people who achieved study score of 40+ are from mont albert cultures school.
and yeah i was in beijing this jan too, i love snow
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呵呵我上caulfield grammar, 学中文的大部分都是澳大利亚人. 没有多少中国人,但是有挺多的马来群岛人.
我和爸爸妈妈说中文,但是跟弟弟说英文.
哎, 我好嫉妒你呀! 但是我明年可能要回北京去看奥林匹克游戏!!
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yeah ! snow is great ! :) it was real snow ! lol i remember i went to this palace .. i forgot where .. and it had like a lake of ice yeah .. and this poor man .. he was like . poking his foot to see if he could step on it without the ice breaking . and he ended up falling in o.o ! my cousin had to quickly grab him back out ! poor man lost so much face .. didn't even talk for the rest of the tour ..
yeah my friend said it's impossible for the principal to write it cos apparantly the exam writer is not meant to be in contact with any students or anything to do with the candidates at all . or something ? :) maybe it was to do with the examiner marking the papers ? cos aren't schools marked in batches ?!
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about whether the principle wrote the exam, im not 100%sure cos i heard from other people, but if you look at the vce high scorer in the herald sun last year, 70-80% of people who achieved study score of 40+ are from mont albert cultures school.
and yeah i was in beijing this jan too, i love snow
maybe they're just good at chinese?
trinity grammar (I think) has the chief assessor for English ... I'll be interested to see how many of them get 40+ ... but I doubt there'll be much correlation between having an assessor and getting good marks. We have 2 or 3 teachers who are English assessors and you don't see our school getting a billion 50s in English :P
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呵呵我上caulfield grammar, 学中文的大部分都是澳大利亚人. 没有多少中国人,但是有挺多的马来群岛人.
我和爸爸妈妈说中文,但是跟弟弟说英文.
哎, 我好嫉妒你呀! 但是我明年可能要回北京去看奥林匹克游戏!!
oh 好像也有很多香港人考汉语
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呵呵我上caulfield grammar, 学中文的大部分都是澳大利亚人. 没有多少中国人,但是有挺多的马来群岛人.
我和爸爸妈妈说中文,但是跟弟弟说英文.
哎, 我好嫉妒你呀! 但是我明年可能要回北京去看奥林匹克游戏!!
哇我也想回去看奥运,特别特别想,但是现在还没有决定呢.
还有我看的出来,你的中文很formal的感觉,不是spoken的,呵呵.因为平常说话不太会说奥林匹克游戏,马来群岛这种的.呵呵^^
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yeah but accessors don't know what the exam topics are .. only the exam writer knows .. accessors only see after the exams are out don't they ? lol . and balwyn high .. i heard theres alot of mandarin speakers there .. my friend's boyfriend goes there .. but i think hes from nanjing . lol . anws i guess we can't really question the fairness about chinese -_- i know people that should be getting into chinese sla .. but .. they somehow end up in sl beginners :( so it's really quite unfair to the rest of us that are real second language beginners.
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about whether the principle wrote the exam, im not 100%sure cos i heard from other people, but if you look at the vce high scorer in the herald sun last year, 70-80% of people who achieved study score of 40+ are from mont albert cultures school.
and yeah i was in beijing this jan too, i love snow
maybe they're just good at chinese?
trinity grammar (I think) has the chief assessor for English ... I'll be interested to see how many of them get 40+ ... but I doubt there'll be much correlation between having an assessor and getting good marks. We have 2 or 3 teachers who are English assessors and you don't see our school getting a billion 50s in English :P
actually theres people who are really bad at chinese, even having trouble speaking getting very good marks, so i dont think they are just good at chinese, but anyway you guys still have to try your best for the exam
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yeah but accessors don't know what the exam topics are .. only the exam writer knows .. accessors only see after the exams are out don't they ? lol . and balwyn high .. i heard theres alot of mandarin speakers there .. my friend's boyfriend goes there .. but i think hes from nanjing . lol . anws i guess we can't really question the fairness about chinese -_- i know people that should be getting into chinese sla .. but .. they somehow end up in sl beginners :( so it's really quite unfair to the rest of us that are real second language beginners.
lol i know, vce system is pretty unfair, i know alot of people who are doing both chinese SLA, and ESL.
and some malaysian who are very good at english, still can do esl, as vcaa doesnt count malaysia as english speaking country, but they do speak good english
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yes i know some aussies that do alright ! my problem with the writing .. is that my teacher told me to cut all the fei hua . lol every essay i write, whether it be chinese or english .. has so much irrelevant crap .. like the grammar is beautiful .. but .. it has nothing to do with the topic . so just need to try my best and write straight to the point within the limit !
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yeah but accessors don't know what the exam topics are .. only the exam writer knows .. accessors only see after the exams are out don't they ? lol . and balwyn high .. i heard theres alot of mandarin speakers there .. my friend's boyfriend goes there .. but i think hes from nanjing . lol . anws i guess we can't really question the fairness about chinese -_- i know people that should be getting into chinese sla .. but .. they somehow end up in sl beginners :( so it's really quite unfair to the rest of us that are real second language beginners.
lol i know, vce system is pretty unfair, i know alot of people who are doing both chinese SLA, and ESL.
and some malaysian who are very good at english, still can do esl, as vcaa doesnt count malaysia as english speaking country, but they do speak good english
yehhh ..some singaporeans manage to get into chinese sl beginners .. even my friend . lol and her chinese is super good . umm . malaysians .. first language is bahasa malaysian .. second language is english . BUT most of the malaysians that come here .. are malaysian chinese . which means . that they are better at english than malay . which irks me also ! cos it's soooo unfair ! i know this girl . her english i would say is better than mine and her accent is soo aussie but she's doing esl because she came from malaysia 4 years ago ! like wth -______- and also i know people that are doing ESL and literature ! LIKEEE. how is it that they can own lit and still manage to be applicable for esl ? -_-
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香港是什么国家？
我不懂了很多东西：(所以我很容易give up 看你们的posts 0=)
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哇我也想回去看奥运,特别特别想,但是现在还没有决定呢.
还有我看的出来,你的中文很formal的感觉,不是spoken的,呵呵.因为平常说话不太会说奥林匹克游戏,马来群岛这种的.呵呵^^
:oops: 我都不知道这些说发,我要是在家里谈这个,我就说olympics 呵呵. 我总是加很多英文词,因为我知道的中文词不够 >_<
what are the requirements for getting into SLA as opposed to beginners? and what about chinese first language lol. I've seen some of those exams, they're not that hard ....
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香港 = Hong Kong :)
and don't give up ! :) you're chinese is pretty good ! :D keep trying !
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yes i know some aussies that do alright ! my problem with the writing .. is that my teacher told me to cut all the fei hua . lol every essay i write, whether it be chinese or english .. has so much irrelevant crap .. like the grammar is beautiful .. but .. it has nothing to do with the topic . so just need to try my best and write straight to the point within the limit !
unlike english, in chinese exam only have a very small part on essay writing, so don't have to worry too much, i found the listening section quite challenging, they spoke quite fast and wasn't enough time.
and i heard from my friend who did chinese first language, the listening was very unfair cos the person spoke very fast and used very very strong beijing accent, and used slang terms such as 皇城根, people not from beijing couldn't even understand it.
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A lot of the time I recognise most of the characters you guys are saying, but they are in an order I have never seen before. So it's like, I can read it but it is making absolutely no sense.
Oh and I learnt olymics as what nina said but with 'yun dong hui' at the end. =)
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哇我也想回去看奥运,特别特别想,但是现在还没有决定呢.
还有我看的出来,你的中文很formal的感觉,不是spoken的,呵呵.因为平常说话不太会说奥林匹克游戏,马来群岛这种的.呵呵^^
:oops: 我都不知道这些说发,我要是在家里谈这个,我就说olympics 呵呵. 我总是加很多英文词,因为我知道的中文词不够 >_<
what are the requirements for getting into SLA as opposed to beginners? and what about chinese first language lol. I've seen some of those exams, they're not that hard ....
呵呵没有关系 :D ,你中文很好了. SLA和beginner我不太知道,but i think if u do esl, your lote has to be first language, which seems reasonable, but i know alot of people doing both esl and csla, so somehow they managed to get advantage from the flaws of the system.
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A lot of the time I recognise most of the characters you guys are saying, but they are in an order I have never seen before. So it's like, I can read it but it is making absolutely no sense.
Oh and I learnt olymics as what nina said but with 'yun dong hui' at the end. =)
yeah yours is a more accurate translation of olympic games,
奥林匹克运动会, where nina translated olympic, and games like 2 words.
when speaking, we usually abbreviate as 奥运会 or just奥运
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:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
wow, I'm such a non-asian-like asian.
^_^
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I pretty much don't do spoken :) only learn proper chinese
The one thing I do know is you can shorten 的时候 to 时 because sometimes that happens in the listening
Oh and also, after someone said '我有了something(like some object)', our teacher told us that the first three words in that by themselves mean something else. so then for the next week we were informing everyone 我们都有了。:D
Think they're the only things I know that aren't standard standard chinese
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lol my mandarin is like fused with cantonese .. like sometimes i use "jor" (past tense word for cantonese) with mandarin sentence .. like .. wo chi jor la .. haha instead of chi bao le . -__- sounds very stuffed up . nah cos some people from msia claim that because bahasa malaysian is their first language .. they can get into esl and chinese sl beginnners -__- even though their more likely to be very good at chinese and english and less at bahasa malay -____- esp. the kids that go to the chinese education schools instead of normal malaysian schools
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我也是北京人! :)
你几岁来到澳大利亚? 我六岁来的. 所以已经在这带了十二年了. 我的英语比我的汉语好 :oops:
我女朋友也是6岁来的,但是她中文很好唉,可能是因为环境,她经常说中文,但是她必须做CSLA,不能做CSL.
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so then for the next week we were informing everyone 我们都有了。:D
hahahahaha
joe: hehe 我的男朋友是香港人,他四岁来的,他在家里都不说普通话! (他说广东话) 但是他的普通话还是比我的好! :oops: 哎,真没出息 :(
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After seeing you guys speak that well, I think I'm officially up shit creek in a leaky boat without a paddle with liquid hydrogen in the fuel tank.
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After seeing you guys speak that well, I think I'm officially up shit creek in a leaky boat without a paddle with liquid hydrogen in the fuel tank.
LOL.
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After seeing you guys speak that well, I think I'm officially up shit creek in a leaky boat without a paddle with liquid hydrogen in the fuel tank.
lol dont worry ! i;m sure you will do fine :) as long as you study properly ! hehe or unless ur a natural pro ;) but yeah . my chinese is quite bad .. like i'm more slangy .. than proper grammar sometimes T.T and .. you go to mhs ! LOL. ;)
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汉语朋友们！听CD以后，我有一些问题。
第一：?广东话?有什么意思？这是?上海话?，?北京话?等一样，还是有其他的意思？
第二：?我明年要kao大学?。什么kao? 是考式的考吗？有什么意思？
谢谢你们！
Also in one of the listenings I was doing just then, they wanted to go to the beach, and the guy was navigating, and the girl wanted to look at the map, so she did, and she said they had been walking west all this time from where they started from, when the beach was to the east xD
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汉语朋友们！听CD以后，我有一些问题。
第一：?广东话?有什么意思？这是?上海话?，?北京话?等一样，还是有其他的意思？
第二：?我明年要kao大学?。什么kao? 是考式的考吗？有什么意思？
谢谢你们！
Also in one of the listenings I was doing just then, they wanted to go to the beach, and the guy was navigating, and the girl wanted to look at the map, so she did, and she said they had been walking west all this time from where they started from, when the beach was to the east xD
广东话 is Cantonese, the dialect of Chinese spoken in and around Guangzhou province China, so it is similar to what ?上海话?，?北京话? means.
kao大学 is 考大学, it means taking the exams which gets people into universities. 我明年要考大学means "i'm doing VCE year 12 next year", its NOT going to uni next year, that would be我明年要上大学. therefore the person speaking is currently in year11.
also when asking what something means, its"是什么意思?" rather than 有什么意思. :D :D
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Thank you very very much, especially for the second one! *needs to change my answer for that*
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:wink: your welcome, 加油
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What's 加油? :P is the first character from can jia?
see people in normal SL, there are about 20 people from my school just like me that you can do better than xD
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What's 加油? :P is the first character from can jia?
see people in normal SL, there are about 20 people from my school just like me that you can do better than xD
you say加油to someone when they are gonna do something challenging and 加油is to pump them up, it substitutes saying goodluck to someone.
for example u say to some1 good luck for the exams, would be考试加油.
how ever 加油does not mean good luck, it means like make an extra effort, or get pumped up, and it is a very frequently and commonly used word. In sport events we shout 加油 which means go.
i was in SLA, but my chinese is like first language, my teacher said i was lucky to be in SLA, i should go to FL, but i just missed half year in doing esl>.<
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I only started learning chinese in year 7.
If I'd had known a few years ago that how well I'd do in vce chinese does not correlate to where I stand within my school, then I probably would have dropped it long ago.
Like it's probably going to be my 7th subject, and to do any better either I'd have to bomb out on another subject this year (which I didn't), or it'd have to beat I think ~46.8 after scaling xD There's no way I can get high 30s raw xD
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There's no way I can get high 30s raw xD
.... I think you could :?
Just because you're competing against native speakers doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna get pushed down by them .... cos if they're anything like me, they'd be used to speaking the more slangy or casual kind of Chinese which isn't gonna get them marks in the exam .... like I've seen the work you guys do and I'd be like, hey, I never knew that's how you're meant to say blah blah blah
Don't give up! 加油 indeed ^^
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But they don't miss 1/4 of the listening section, because they don't have the problem of hearing where the answer is, but having no idea what it means and can't find it in the dictionary. eg Q: what do they want to bring, I hear "wo men yao dai lai agjhrgkjsdgjk" and I feel like headdesking in frustration
Anyway, this is a nice place to ask questions :)
1. Context is person wanting to buy presents for people when he goes to china. One of the things he is going to bring I heard as 'dai shi ping'. In dictionary I found 'dai shu' = kangaroo which is v aussie, but I can't find the last character. I don't think he'd be bringing a live kangaroo over =/
2. Same passage. A place where you can buy things. 'mian shui jian'. Dictionary absolutely no help on this one
3. What is a 'lu xing dai' Something to do with traveling I assume
4. How do you write a) Xi ni, b) Xin xi lan (nz). I've discovered my dictionary doesn't have places in it and I don't think I will try writing them in somewhere =/
In that one, there were other things I didn't hear at all, not even when I cheated and played the passage a few more times XD
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Anyway, this is a nice place to ask questions :)
1. Context is person wanting to buy presents for people when he goes to china. One of the things he is going to bring I heard as 'dai shi ping'. In dictionary I found 'dai shu' = kangaroo which is v aussie, but I can't find the last character. I don't think he'd be bringing a live kangaroo over =/
2. Same passage. A place where you can buy things. 'mian shui jian'. Dictionary absolutely no help on this one
3. What is a 'lu xing dai' Something to do with traveling I assume
4. How do you write a) Xi ni, b) Xin xi lan (nz). I've discovered my dictionary doesn't have places in it and I don't think I will try writing them in somewhere =/
In that one, there were other things I didn't hear at all, not even when I cheated and played the passage a few more times XD
1. "dai shi ping" is "bring 10 bottles" of something - that's how I see it :? lol at kangaroos ^^
2. have no idea - need tone marks for this one plz mel lol - right now I see it as noodles water pick up =\
3. I THINK is luggage or something .... not sure tho. need tone marks!! :P
4. I don't have characters on my laptop ... or at least I don't THINK I do ... so .... www.freetranslation.com :P
LOL I cheat with german HV too :P which is really bad :(
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Nina I can barely pick up the pin yin (I doubt they're 100% right), let alone tone marks :P
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But they don't miss 1/4 of the listening section, because they don't have the problem of hearing where the answer is, but having no idea what it means and can't find it in the dictionary. eg Q: what do they want to bring, I hear "wo men yao dai lai agjhrgkjsdgjk" and I feel like headdesking in frustration
Anyway, this is a nice place to ask questions :)
1. Context is person wanting to buy presents for people when he goes to china. One of the things he is going to bring I heard as 'dai shi ping'. In dictionary I found 'dai shu' = kangaroo which is v aussie, but I can't find the last character. I don't think he'd be bringing a live kangaroo over =/
2. Same passage. A place where you can buy things. 'mian shui jian'. Dictionary absolutely no help on this one
3. What is a 'lu xing dai' Something to do with traveling I assume
4. How do you write a) Xi ni, b) Xin xi lan (nz). I've discovered my dictionary doesn't have places in it and I don't think I will try writing them in somewhere =/
In that one, there were other things I didn't hear at all, not even when I cheated and played the passage a few more times XD
Maybe I'm not that bad. I've included tones.
1. Dai shi ping means bring ten bottles of something. (4th tone, 2nd tone, 2nd tone)
2. Mian shui (3rd tone then 4th tone) means No-tax, or duty-free. So a "mian shui jian" I would assume refers to a duty-free shop at an airport, which should make sense considering he's going to China.
3. "lu xing dai" is means luggage (3rd dot tone, 2nd tone, 4th tone)
4. "Xi Ni" means Sydney. It's 悉尼。 "Xin Xi Lan" is 新西兰， I think.
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yep, upper level got everything correct
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At school today, someone said that last year they looked at the names in the paper of people who got 40+. They said there were 3 non-asian names there.
I'm stuffed ^_^
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At school today, someone said that last year they looked at the names in the paper of people who got 40+. They said there were 3 non-asian names there.
I'm stuffed ^_^
NO! You're not! Don't give up!
<3
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awwww mel! don't think like that! maybe this year will be different. or maybe you'll end up as one of those non-asian names :)
don't give up *hugs*
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According to VCAA, 20% of girls get A+. 12% of boys do.
Statistics don't lie! :P (drat.)
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At school today, someone said that last year they looked at the names in the paper of people who got 40+. They said there were 3 non-asian names there.
I'm stuffed ^_^
NO! You're not! Don't give up!
<3
ditto, if you pull a 35 that is a sweet 45 still :D
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Agreed. Chinese SL scales very well. Actually I regret not studying Chinese in Year 7.
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I didn't do it from Year 7 - 10.
I only chose Chinese this year because it
A) scales so fantastically
B) Less effort to get a 40 than spesh
C) Why learn a new language (jap) when you can revise an old one?
Chinese :P
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thank you guys :*
I'll still put in effort and stuff, and like tomorrow/day after go through and learn how to write more characters off the top of my head, random good phrases etc.
the whole thing does feel a bit futile though. After 6 years I suddenly can't learn much more overnight. But I should get into a chinese mode, and stop making silly mistakes. Like yesterday I wrote 唱when I meant 喝cos they're similar, and only realised when I was doing a different paper when that character came up again xD
Just have to hope the listening section isn't full of unfamiliar vocab I guess =/
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FINISHED :D:D:D
Only 2 things I had to fudge in the listening, which is awesome, didn't hear completely about homework and uniform parts.
Wrote about the 'persuade to go to the beach' one
Oh, and was anyone else concerned in the email screenshot it was 12:22am, and they had msn running? xD
Edit - actually, that reading and responding was pretty involved comprehending it wise, now I think about it
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YESSS ! HOW DOABLE WAS THAT EXAM ! omg . i was like wowwww ! lol. but the reading and responding in chinese killed me . i waffled on like crazy . and i lost a mark cos in the why did the man recommend the airlines i wrote "a) it was cheap for china airlines b) shorter flight time compared to japan airlines c) 15% discount for the child" BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE 25% discount ! O.O and also .. what did you write for "why did the custome choose australia airlines?" lolol.. that one was abit weird .. and i didnt know that you could just take answers out from the text word for word ! so i spent AGESSS writing my own answers -_- sounds all mixed up .. messy handwriting -_- andd i did the beach one also ! :) it was alright . lol i spelt two characters wrong -_- 'fan zheng" i wrote the wrong two characters .. so i guess another mark taken off there ? lol i dont know if my 43 raw is possible anymore .. my chinese replies weren't that great :( all mixed up and muddled with messy writing -____- oh and what did you write about the features of chinese sms? lol !
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oh crap I forgot about the 25% off thing, I just said it was cheaper :K and that the shorter flight was suitable for kids
I said they chose australia one because that went directly to beijing. i think.
The sms thing I was mainly copying sentences from the passage. A few of them I reworded, but mostly it looked like it was copy and paste =/
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oh crap I forgot about the 25% off thing, I just said it was cheaper :K and that the shorter flight was suitable for kids
I said they chose australia one because that went directly to beijing. i think.
The sms thing I was mainly copying sentences from the passage. A few of them I reworded, but mostly it looked like it was copy and paste =/
cara, you're right about that.
I don't know about the 25% off thing. I didn't write that, because it wasn't directly related. We don't know the old pricing for Australia Airlines, so I believe that the 25% off is incorrect. It is just there to help you work out how many people are going (2 adults 1 child).
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I dont think it was *directly* related, but it might have been good to chuck in that kids tickets were 75% the price, just to show off you understand it.
I think I filled up the lines to each question, and then proceeded to stop thinking :( stupid headaches
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this subject would be soooo hard if you didnt know any chinese
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I am as non background as they come, and I found chinese a whole lot easier than german in years 7 + 8 (we had to do both), hence why I continued this one :P
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i meant if you didn't know any by the end of year 12
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i meant if you didn't know any by the end of year 12
Uhm, yeah, stating the obvious? :2funny:
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this subject would be soooo hard if you didnt know any chinese
i meant if you didn't know any by the end of year 12
No shit, sherlock.
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I didn't do it from Year 7 - 10.
I only chose Chinese this year because it
A) scales so fantastically
B) Less effort to get a 40 than spesh
C) Why learn a new language (jap) when you can revise an old one?
Chinese :P
sigh. i feel like u guys doing chinese put me to shame cos i'm chinese, i was born here but i don't know any mandarin and can only understand conversational cantonese lol
and yes it would be a lot less effort than spec. lol why did i choose to do spec??? i'm so dumb for an asian! LOL
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If you have background it is good :P Otherwise stay the hell away if you are doing it in the hope of getting a good study score
I got 34 and I studied my arse off (probably only put more effort into English). It ended up not counting towards my enter at all.
Kingmar pretty much didnt study at all and got 33
The difference? He has background, I don't.
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yeah well i've finished yr 12 this yr anyway. if only i went to a school that taught it also. that would have helped me to make the decision to choose to do a language lol. our school only offers italian and even though 'apparently' i was good at it when we did it from yr 7-9...it's like...i'm chinese, who am i going to talk to in italian?? anywho...learning chinese would have really benefitted me lol