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VCE Stuff => VCE Mathematics => VCE Mathematics/Science/Technology => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Mathematical Methods CAS => Topic started by: jzjzjzjz on November 15, 2007, 05:29:11 pm
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iwas crazi @ metho (first post!)
gimme a REALISTIC prediction of score:
SAC; ~99%
exam 1; 38\40 (v. disapointing)
exam2 ; ( 77- 78 ) /80
i'm thinkin ss= 46-47 (sometwaht disapointing? i owned meth) :?
HERE ARE SOME REAL PREDICTIONS AT TOP END (given that sacs are high; all of "kido"'s predictions are lamely/retardedly unrealistic)
119-120 : 50
118-119: 49
116-118: 48
114-116: 45-46
110-114: 43-45
<110 : :?:
Anyone disagree? remember that comptetion is always high at top...espeecilay with 17000 doin' meth.
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You're a very blunt person, to drop potentially only four marks across two methods papers and complain about it being disappointing.
It's a bit stupid to ask for assistance in predicting scores, when you yourself have made some "REAL PREDICTIONS!!! kido IS RETARDEDLY UNREALISTIC!!!"
I'll give you a realistic one. I'll use your stats, and state you'll get 45.
I've never met anyone who complains with such good scores. Except me. But I've dropped more marks than you have, and my school entitles me to complain.
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iwas crazi @ metho (first post!)
gimme a REALISTIC prediction of score:
SAC; ~99%
exam 1; 38\40 (v. disapointing)
exam2 ; ( 77- 78 ) /80
i'm thinkin ss= 46-47 (sometwaht disapointing? i owned meth) :?
HERE ARE SOME REAL PREDICTIONS AT TOP END (given that sacs are high; all of "kido"'s predictions are lamely/retardedly unrealistic)
119-120 : 50
118-119: 49
116-118: 48
114-116: 45-46
110-114: 43-45
<110 : :?:
Anyone disagree? remember that comptetion is always high at top...espeecilay with 17000 doin' meth.
I do not know the point of your post. I admit I am no VCAA authority, though many of my mates found the test very difficult and a lot of people just left pages blank. I am not trying to defend my 'retarded' predictions, because they are my opinion and you are entitled to yours.
I just wish all FSNers good luck in their score.
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iwas crazi @ metho (first post!)
gimme a REALISTIC prediction of score:
SAC; ~99%
exam 1; 38\40 (v. disapointing)
exam2 ; ( 77- 78 ) /80
i'm thinkin ss= 46-47 (sometwaht disapointing? i owned meth) :?
HERE ARE SOME REAL PREDICTIONS AT TOP END (given that sacs are high; all of "kido"'s predictions are lamely/retardedly unrealistic)
119-120 : 50
118-119: 49
116-118: 48
114-116: 45-46
110-114: 43-45
<110 : :?:
Anyone disagree? remember that comptetion is always high at top...espeecilay with 17000 doin' meth.
I disagree, and do not be too confident yourself, you might have made a silly mistake. Did you put units squared, show every step of working, simplify integral expressions, check all your MC questions, write neatly so examiners can understand. Did you use Units for all calculations. For probability did you simplify all expressions, identify whether it is not a binomial or if it was continuous and why.
Did you....
Well, if you didn't,as you say competition is hard at the top end, you might end up with a 39(that is my REALISTIC prediction)
And I agree with that.
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ok ok... ill clarify something
i wanted to discuss some realistic expectations
i do wish all FSNers well but you statement here:
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45- 100+ across the 2 papers
40-90+ across the two papers """
is really just ignorant; i just wanted to know what to expect on results day. tis all. you're like deluding other ppl.
plus im y11 so 100% time went to methods; its pr. different for y12s so sorry then...... (p.s. exam was not THAT hard was it? or am I the ignorant one?)
sorry for such a controversial 1st post lol!
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iwas crazi @ metho (first post!)
gimme a REALISTIC prediction of score:
SAC; ~99%
exam 1; 38\40 (v. disapointing)
exam2 ; ( 77- 78 ) /80
i'm thinkin ss= 46-47 (sometwaht disapointing? i owned meth) :?
HERE ARE SOME REAL PREDICTIONS AT TOP END (given that sacs are high; all of "kido"'s predictions are lamely/retardedly unrealistic)
119-120 : 50
118-119: 49
116-118: 48
114-116: 45-46
110-114: 43-45
<110 : :?:
Anyone disagree? remember that comptetion is always high at top...espeecilay with 17000 doin' meth.
Yeh you are 'crazy at metho'.
You do not know what you are talking about with those 'retarded predictions' and your arrogant attitude.
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iwas crazi @ metho (first post!)
gimme a REALISTIC prediction of score:
SAC; ~99%
exam 1; 38\40 (v. disapointing)
exam2 ; ( 77- 78 ) /80
i'm thinkin ss= 46-47 (sometwaht disapointing? i owned meth) :?
HERE ARE SOME REAL PREDICTIONS AT TOP END (given that sacs are high; all of "kido"'s predictions are lamely/retardedly unrealistic)
119-120 : 50
118-119: 49
116-118: 48
114-116: 45-46
110-114: 43-45
<110 : :?:
Anyone disagree? remember that comptetion is always high at top...espeecilay with 17000 doin' meth.
I disagree, and do not be too confident yourself, you might have made a silly mistake. Did you put units squared, show every step of working, simplify integral expressions, check all your MC questions, write neatly so examiners can understand. Did you use Units for all calculations. For probability did you simplify all expressions, identify whether it is not a binomial or if it was continuous and why.
Did you....
Well, if you didn't,as you say competition is hard at the top end, you might end up with a 39(that is my REALISTIC prediction)
And I agree with that.
so true, i felt as if i had killed the further exam then i realised that 50 i wanted will proasbly end up a 40:(
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Arrogant is the message you're putting across.
Complaining about dropping 4 marks, insulting other members (granted, I've done it but I've learnt).
You know exactly what to expect, you've stated it yourself. You are the ignorant one, as you have to remember not everyone did as well as you.
17,000 kids don't do meth. Only you are on the "metho" after those two posts.
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Id be stoked with the freaking state average which is like 40% let alone freaking dropping 4 marks out of 120. I mean come on get your priorities....
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Take it easy guys. Chat with a positive/less aggressive voice please, thanks. :wink:
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exam was not THAT hard was it? or am I the ignorant one?)
Well compared to last years, i would say it was THAT hard. in 100 minutes, without any serious study done (this was about a month before the 2007 exam 2) i finished the 2006 Exam 2 and dropped about 4 marks. If i only had 100 minutes this year, i wouldnt have finished.
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ok ok... ill clarify something
i wanted to discuss some realistic expectations
i do wish all FSNers well but you statement here:
""
45- 100+ across the 2 papers
40-90+ across the two papers """
is really just ignorant; i just wanted to know what to expect on results day. tis all. you're like deluding other ppl.
plus im y11 so 100% time went to methods; its pr. different for y12s so sorry then...... (p.s. exam was not THAT hard was it? or am I the ignorant one?)
sorry for such a controversial 1st post lol!
it's not ignorant. it's a guess. just like your guesses. none of us know what the average mark is going to be, or what the A+ mark is going to be. we can only guess.
just a note however, and i could probably speak for most others, arrogancy isn't charming. modesty is a much more likeable quality, and one that many of the very intelligent people here at FSN seem to posess, i've noticed.
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jzjzjz just got owned lol i love fsn haha
i did really well with the 2006 exams without any study. Then i studied hard core for this year and completely screwed up exam 1. Im sure apart from the few exceptions (people like Ahmad) im just like the rest of the state. I think the best way to predict scores is to look at the vcaa grade distributions from last year (http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2006/statssect3.html) with their respective percentages and account for the varying state performance this year.
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jzjzjz just got owned lol i love fsn haha
i did really well with the 2006 exams without any study. Then i studied hard core for this year and completely screwed up exam 1. Im sure apart from the few exceptions (people like Ahmad) im just like the rest of the state. I think the best way to predict scores is to look at the vcaa grade distributions from last year (http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2006/statssect3.html) with their respective percentages and account for the varying state performance this year.
True, but you have to remember that last years exam was much easier and shorter than this year.
We can only guess our scores till that day (27 days and about 18 hrs time)
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Forums encourage use of structured sentences and things such as: grammar, punctuation and spelling. Also, dropping the arrogant attitude and adopting a one similar to what Ahmad displays would be of benefit to you.
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I don't actually see why people are dogpiling on him though. His statements about overestimating SS's are true! His estimates are quite good, but he just lacks tact in criticising others.
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Forums encourage use of structured sentences and things such as: grammar, punctuation and spelling. Also, dropping the arrogant attitude and adopting a one similar to what Ahmad displays would be of benefit to you.
If you support the correct use of "punctuation" and "grammar" (I dont really care), I believe that your sentence "...and adopting a one similar to.." is incorrect and should be "...adopting one..".
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If you support the correct use of "punctuation" and "grammar" (I dont really care), I believe that your sentence "...and adopting a one similar to.." is incorrect and should be "...adopting one..".
You are correct, a mistake on my part. However, such a mistake highly beats out something akin to: iwas crazi @ metho
. Also, at the end of your quote "...adopting one..". The ellipsis should be fully used, followed by " and then a further full stop, or leave the last full stop out completely, or do not use a second ellipsis and simply close the quotation marks and end with a full stop.
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Who cares about punctuation?
As long as you get what we are trying to communicate.
Btw, I was crazi at metho should be: I am crazy at metho.
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If you support the correct use of "punctuation" and "grammar" (I dont really care), I believe that your sentence "...and adopting a one similar to.." is incorrect and should be "...adopting one..".
You are correct, a mistake on my part. However, such a mistake highly beats out something akin to: iwas crazi @ metho
. Also, at the end of your quote "...adopting one..". The ellipsis should be fully used, followed by " and then a further full stop, or leave the last full stop out completely, or do not use a second ellipsis and simply close the quotation marks and end with a full stop.
haha i was just trying to be a smart arse (I cant help it) so theres no need to pick on my insignificant use of trivial ellipsis.
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If you support the correct use of "punctuation" and "grammar" (I dont really care), I believe that your sentence "...and adopting a one similar to.." is incorrect and should be "...adopting one..".
You are correct, a mistake on my part. However, such a mistake highly beats out something akin to: iwas crazi @ metho
. Also, at the end of your quote "...adopting one..". The ellipsis should be fully used, followed by " and then a further full stop, or leave the last full stop out completely, or do not use a second ellipsis and simply close the quotation marks and end with a full stop.
haha i was just trying to be a smart arse (I cant help it) so theres no need to pick on my insignificant use of trivial ellipses.
lol
Imagine we get marked on methods for our punctuation as well as our maths. :P
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Well, at least he escaped a rustic_metal pile-on.
We are all civilised people, yes? That first post was uncivilised, and completely self-defeating in purpose. His predictions weren't bad - it was the accusations and the way he went about it that was disconcerting.
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This may be a tad off topic but it is neccessary. I couldn't help but notice Kingmar's portion of his signature stating "kingmar > Tasmania Jones - lifelong ENEMY" I am in a complete state of shock over the manner at which tasmania jones has been treated. Im pretty sure Tasmania Jones> life and should be given legendary status. How can anyone discredit Tasmania Jones?
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This may be a tad off topic but it is neccessary. I couldn't help but notice Kingmar's portion of his signature stating "kingmar > Tasmania Jones - lifelong ENEMY" I am in a complete state of shock over the manner at which tasmania jones has been treated. Im pretty sure Tasmania Jones> life and should be given legendary status. How can anyone discredit Tasmania Jones?
Tasmania Jones whipped my methodical arse in that exam. I will not have a bar of it.
This could have been taken care of via PM. But no, public domain requires a signature edit, appropriate until I finally lose interest in Tasmania Jones' horror run.
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Tasmania Jones was a source of a silly mistake.
This silly mistakes will prove deadly and will help reduce my Methods SS.
Therefor I hate Tasmania Jones(he/she).
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Tasmania treated me alright this time i thought lol. He/she completely fucked me in a couple of his/her previous activities :lol:
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There was a prob question in the 2003/04 VCAA test that was pretty annoying with Tassy Jones in it.
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Tasmania Jones was a source of a silly mistake.
This silly mistakes will prove deadly and will help reduce my Methods SS.
Therefor I hate Tasmania Jones(he/she).
lol haha you put m=0 didnt you? Thats what i did anyway and that mistake will also serve as a terminal illness to my methods SS. Nevertheless, please, people, show a bit of respect for Tasmania Jones. The man (or woman im confused now-maybe both?) :? is just such a multiskilled motovational genius (he went through deadly insects to get to a diamond). Come on, who else would risk their lives for a diamond. He has done so much for us all.
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Tasmania Jones was a source of a silly mistake.
This silly mistakes will prove deadly and will help reduce my Methods SS.
Therefor I hate Tasmania Jones(he/she).
lol haha you put m=0 didnt you? Thats what i did anyway and that mistake will also serve as a terminal illness to my methods SS. Nevertheless, please, people, show a bit of respect for Tasmania Jones. The man (or woman im confused now-maybe both?) :? is just such a multiskilled motovational genius (he went through deadly insects to get to a diamond). Come on, who else would risk their lives for a diamond. He has done so much for us all.
No, I put m=8000. However I lost a mark in the last question. I put under stressful exam conditions. Time taken= 8hrs-79.9mins NOT 80-79.9 minutes. I hope I still get 2/3 marks.
*Hope*
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Tasmania is a MAN. He's never been a woman, who spread that?
In the Board of Studies paper 2000, another "Jones" is mentioned.
Her name is Victoria Jones. Not Tasmania. Tasmania is a man.
Even such a tricky character like Tasmania does not deserve that.
It's not that I got the Tasmania question wrong, its just that I spent 10 minutes trying to graph the bloody equation.
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I always thought he was a man. Some chick on the Tasmania Jones thread (this conversation should probably be moved lol) was adament that Tasmania Jones could be a woman. I personally disagree as well. Anyway im pretty sure Tasmania Jones has hurt me more than anyone else but the man still deserves respect. If i put m=0 how many consequential marks do you think i lost? (At least 1 for the graph, working out how long he is alive for ect) if you can remember back that far?
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You'd lose no consequential marks, because those marks are consequential. :P
You lose one mark, and then as long as all your other answers are "correct" based on that incorrect answer then you'll get full method marks for those.
Answer marks I'm not so sure. You should get them though.
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I know you dont get penalised at all in chemistry but im sure in methods you definately lose the answer mark. Sometimes i think you may even lose the working marks. Eg putting m=0 means that my working (not to mention my graph) will differ immensly therefore my method will be incorrect. Do you disagree?
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I concur.
Then, you'd lose answer marks as well as the original mark.
I would expect you to get the method marks though.
For example, the second question after the graph was like:
"When is the conc. of killer insects under 1250?"
Your answer is clearly wrong, BUT as you based your answer on the graph, which was wrong, but your method is right, you in theory SHOULD get the mark.
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I concur.
Then, you'd lose answer marks as well as the original mark.
I would expect you to get the method marks though.
For example, the second question after the graph was like:
"When is the conc. of killer insects under 1250?"
Your answer is clearly wrong, BUT as you based your answer on the graph, which was wrong, but your method is right, you in theory SHOULD get the mark.
I would love to believe you cos i made a similar mistake for spec aswell you have to remember that vcaa are bastards and they have no mercy. Im positive they dont give you any consequential marks because my teachers have told me that. And sometimes putting in the wrong answer would make the consequential working a hell of a lot easier, thus being unfair
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So what does that make of the theory that if you don't know the answer, just randomly assume a value to continue the question?
i.e. dunno x, so I assume it's 2 and then move on.
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that makes that theory completely useless. It would work for chem. Regardless i live in hope and i still did something like that on the methods exam. to find the y value of the Turning point i did something like this:
p(x value found)=4(xvalue found)^6+54 ect lol i think i wasted my time
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Hmmm...so methods is rather..cool..
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Hmmm...so methods is rather..cool..
Methods = Cool Sh*t.
Exams= Bullsh*t.
Tasmania Jones = HOLY SH*T!
Normally, I would bag VCAA. But after visiting the place, I can safely appreciate the enormous amount of work that they do. You may not like the VCAA, or the exams/examiners, but one thing is for sure - you can't fault their work ethic.
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I have to agree. VCAA work their ass off, even if it is to produce questions with Tassy Jones in them.
Yeh, the graph also took ages to draw.
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Obviously vcaa have an excellent work ethic seeing as they introduced the mythical Tasmania Jones in the first place. The character is a fine product of the excellent work vcaa have done