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Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: bec on November 15, 2007, 07:50:36 pm
i'm in year 11 and this year i've been working about 10 hours a week at my job. what are people's thoughts about working in year 12? if you've worked, how many hours a week did you do?
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: costargh on November 15, 2007, 07:52:11 pm
Work weekends if you want.
It really gets you out of the house and allows you to relax.
I dont know about weekdays. I dont work them anymore
Friday nites saturday days for me
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Pencil on November 15, 2007, 08:15:31 pm
I was the same as you, i probably worked around 15 hours a week in year 11, if not more. This year.....hm i think i was still doing 10 hours up until say 2 months before exams? but really i should have kept working. Year 12 isn't as scary as people make it out to be haha, you can't study all the time.
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: fredrick on November 15, 2007, 08:52:34 pm
i work 15 hours a week...friday night and sundays and im also in yr 11. Will continue to work in yr 12 also
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Matt89 on November 15, 2007, 11:09:52 pm
10 hours a week isn't very much, so i think thats a good amount. If most of its on weekends, even better.

(I've never had a job, so i'm just assuming that)
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: asa.hoshi on November 16, 2007, 02:31:26 am
work on weekends. once you hit 18, and have no job experience, you will struggle to find a JOB!!! unless you have connections.

i've been working since yr10 (after work experience, at coles). I dont work that often. sometimes on sat and sundays, but mostly just on sundays because they have x1.5 pay.

when exam time comes along, just make sure you let your supervisor know that you want some time off.. make sure if you tell your supervisor first before anyone else does. haha. because if you tell your supervisor after everyone else has, then the chances of your supervisor letting you have a few weeks off to study decreases. because in most retailers, casuals (students) work on weekends.
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: costargh on November 16, 2007, 08:36:37 am
Yeh but I still had to deal with two 3/4 subjects (even though its less than half of the year 12 workload lol)
And also the example of my brother who did year 12 this year. He worked maybe 8 hours a week on the weekends. Got him some cash and diversified his life a bit. Not just a monotone of homework.
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Collin Li on November 16, 2007, 08:44:01 am
Quote from: "asa.hoshi"
work on weekends. once you hit 18, and have no job experience, you will struggle to find a JOB!!! unless you have connections.

i've been working since yr10 (after work experience, at coles). I dont work that often. sometimes on sat and sundays, but mostly just on sundays because they have x1.5 pay.

when exam time comes along, just make sure you let your supervisor know that you want some time off.. make sure if you tell your supervisor first before anyone else does. haha. because if you tell your supervisor after everyone else has, then the chances of your supervisor letting you have a few weeks off to study decreases. because in most retailers, casuals (students) work on weekends.


Do you reckon that I could say "tutoring" was work experience? I haven't had any boss in my entire life, so maybe they might think that is a bad thing.
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: costargh on November 16, 2007, 08:59:06 am
Tutoring is defenetly a form of work but it depends what you classify work experience as. I would still put a resume that you've been tutoring for over a year or whatever.
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Pencil on November 16, 2007, 02:44:21 pm
Quote from: "coblin"

Do you reckon that I could say "tutoring" was work experience? I haven't had any boss in my entire life, so maybe they might think that is a bad thing.


Of course. It's a resume, so you just make it sound really good like by saying how this has given you skills in organisation, leadership, mentoring, communication etc.
Also I don't think you'll have problems getting a job coblin haha, ya know with the whole uni degree and all
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: joshuamorgan on November 16, 2007, 04:02:57 pm
I work 5 hours on a Friday night, and 9 hours on a Saturday. I work at Coles, but I'm only in Year 11 (juggling two 3/4s), I'll probably cut down next year, however.
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Mao on November 16, 2007, 04:56:02 pm
i'm so lucky that i got an awesome holiday job that pays too much
except i have to work all business hours, which practically means i have no life what so ever during hols...

but the money's good, and i get to stuff around during school term :D
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Odette on November 16, 2007, 05:03:17 pm
Tutoring would count as work experience, but it would depend on what job you're applying for (as various jobs ask for different qualifications/experience). :)

I'll be working(flexible hours)and tutoring(depending on my results) :P ^_^ ... I used to work when i was in year 10 and 11 (stopped in year 12, probably a mistake)

But tutoring will definitely help me lol... considering ill be teaching ;)
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Collin Li on November 16, 2007, 05:07:59 pm
Quote from: "goosefraba"
Quote from: "coblin"

Do you reckon that I could say "tutoring" was work experience? I haven't had any boss in my entire life, so maybe they might think that is a bad thing.


Of course. It's a resume, so you just make it sound really good like by saying how this has given you skills in organisation, leadership, mentoring, communication etc.
Also I don't think you'll have problems getting a job coblin haha, ya know with the whole uni degree and all


Yeah, but I should still learn how to accept asshole-discipline from a boss someday before I try to enter a professional workforce.
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: asa.hoshi on November 16, 2007, 05:40:04 pm
but if you are smart (like coblin), companies will just snatch you up before you have even finished university.
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Daniel15 on November 16, 2007, 07:15:47 pm
Heh, I worked about 3 hours per week during Year 12... 3 hours on Thursday nights :P
Doing website stuff... Not that hard, and I got $15 per hour :D
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Collin Li on November 16, 2007, 10:56:58 pm
Quote from: "droodles"
Quote from: "asa.hoshi"
but if you are smart (like coblin), companies will just snatch you up before you have even finished university.


for stuff like mechanical engineering or biomedical neuro physics


What about pursuing a career in Economics or Chemical Engineering?
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: asa.hoshi on November 17, 2007, 01:36:30 am
i think it is the same any other strands of jobs. as long you are outstanding, than companies will offer you a job. when i say outstanding, you have to be like in the top 5 in your course...

but if you want jobs at you local retailer and you are over 18, you might find it hard get a job. If there were 2 applicants, one with work experience and no experience whatsoever, and they are both over 18. I think the employer will choose the applicant with the experience.

Go Coblin, get a job quickly whilst  you are still under 18!!! but im sure some companies in the future will offer you a job because you are outstanding! haha.
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Collin Li on November 17, 2007, 01:38:23 am
Quote from: "asa.hoshi"
i think it is the same any other strands of jobs. as long you are outstanding, than companies will offer you a job. when i say outstanding, you have to be like in the top 5 in your course...

but if you want jobs at you local retailer and you are over 18, you might find it hard get a job. If there were 2 applicants, one with work experience and no experience whatsoever, and they are both over 18. I think the employer will choose the applicant with the experience.

Go Coblin, get a job quickly whilst  you are still under 18!!! but im sure some companies in the future will offer you a job because you are outstanding! haha.


Haha, I wouldn't be top 5 in my course though...
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Ahmad on November 17, 2007, 05:45:32 am
You sure about that? ^^
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Collin Li on November 17, 2007, 10:57:34 am
Quote from: "droodles"
coblin be realistic, you're too good for economics and chemical engineering.


Thank you, but I don't see how I'm "too good" for it. They're not static fields. They still have plenty of room to grow (especially economics!) What do you propose I do instead? I'm certainly not going to commit rote-memory to become a doctor, that is just boring to me. I believe I can do my best by pursuing my interests (which are reflected in the course I am doing now).
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Odette on November 17, 2007, 01:24:43 pm
Quote from: "droodles"
why dont u become an engineer like michael schofield and then go on a mad adventure and try and break out of a prison with ur wits


Lol ! haha
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Toothpaste on November 17, 2007, 02:10:06 pm
Lol "Go to jail Collin".
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Collin Li on November 17, 2007, 02:12:04 pm
Quote from: "Toothpick"
Lol "Go to jail Collin".


Do not pass GO, do not collect $200.
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: SilverBullet on November 17, 2007, 03:23:55 pm
Through year 12 I worked 15 hours all up.
5 hours on Wednesday night
5 hours on Saturday
5 hours on Sunday evening

It's not that hard to juggle work and school if you use your time effectively.
Title: Part time jobs in yr 12
Post by: Trigger_003 on November 18, 2007, 08:16:29 am
It really depends on what works for you. If working doesn't tax you very heavily and you can come home and get stuck into study, as long as you make yourself do so, effectively, it's fine. It's all about time management and, urgh, goal setting.

However, there's only a certain extent of work you should do. My dad's a teacher and he's all into this kind of stuff... some study he's got showed that on average those who worked ~5 hours a week were better off in their results, leading to better levels of organisation, engery, etc. That's around your optimum workload. Anything greater than that tended to see a dip in the results of the participants.

Personally I didn't have a job, as I am a musican and we don't get jobs ;), but no, it certainly took up the time commitment of one, and perhaps more effort. Try to work to at least a bit of a schedule and use your available time - read over texts or look over some summary notes during travel time... unless you're driving - I saw this P-plater reading papers while driving the other day... probably not the best idea for passing haha. Anyway, things like that seem small but really do add up over time without a much extra effort.

If you wanted to, you could get some of the easy coursework out of the way over the summer holidays which ultimately gives you more time during the year. Don't burn out though, make sure you get a decent break so you can work hard during the year.

That's my 5c.