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VCE Stuff => VCE English Studies => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE English & EAL => Topic started by: *Roxxii* on September 25, 2008, 09:58:59 pm
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I've heard many people say that it is safer to study for two texts... Just in case both prompts for a particular text are pretty hard.
I'm just wondering...is there anyone out there who is planning to only study for one text?
I'm doing AMFAS and LBW...
But i'm pretty sure i'm gonna do my essay on AMFAS
So yeah...just wondering...what are your thoughts on only studying for one text? :-\
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im also doing LBW and AMFAS and have decided to study both to a well understood level but focus a little more on AMFAS as atm that will prob be the text i will be writing on.
I think its best to know the other text to at least a sufficient level where you could a write a well argued and coherent piece.
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I'm going fullon on AMFAS. I am very confident that I will be able to answer any question that arises, thus the absence of a second text to study for me.
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I guess it is always better safe than sorry in the English exam. Unfortunately, it has to be included in the top 4... You don't want to revert from the opportunity to do well. My advice; study one in detail, study the other so you know what it's on about. :)
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I'm doing the same texts as you and I know 100% that i'm writing on LBW in the exam - there is no point in me studying for AMFAS because I definitely know that I am writing on LBW.. so I think you should only focus on one text if you are absolutely confident and 100% sure you are going to write on it in the exam..
If you are not sure what text you want to write on then I think you should study for both but put in a little more effort towards your favourite just so that you have that little bit of extra confidence towards your most preferred option where you can use your second text as a 'backup' only.
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I'm going fullon on AMFAS. I am very confident that I will be able to answer any question that arises, thus the absence of a second text to study for me.
Costa, wanna tutor me? :P lols
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lol :P
if you already knew everything that the lecturer said today then you don't need me.
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That lecturer... :( I think I will study LBW because of this fact. She put me off AMFAS.
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Haha...it's more like the complete opposite to already knowing everything :P
I knew absolutely nothing...lolz. I havent even really read the play...
I did my sac by cramming in the last 2 days, reading lots of study guides n sample essays...
And now i've forgotten everything :(
But yeah, i will actually read, it, and make an effort for the exam :P
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Furthermore, I think of it like this. If you study well enough to understand it fully, you WILL be able to answer any question that arises because you have prepared for that. Eg. In legal if you are confident with the whole course you should be able answer any question that arises...
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Haha...it's more like the complete opposite to already knowing everything :P
I knew absolutely nothing...lolz. I havent even really read the play...
I did my sac by cramming in the last 2 days, reading lots of study guides n sample essays...
And now i've forgotten everything :(
But yeah, i will actually read, it, and make an effort for the exam :P
The one area that I completely neglected was stage directions!!! stupid me. So gonna do that in my 6th reading (and anyone who is planning to do AMFAS and hasn't read it at least twice should be shot considering the shortness of the play)
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I'm studying both LBW and Maestro, fairly sure I'm gonna do Maestro for the exam...but still studying LBW in case it has an awesome question.
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Furthermore, I think of it like this. If you study well enough to understand it fully, you WILL be able to answer any question that arises because you have prepared for that. Eg. In legal if you are confident with the whole course you should be able answer any question that arises...
Yeah, i think so too.
But the questions for AMFAS in the TSFX lecture booklet seem to be hard :(
If i got one of them, i dont think i'd be able to do them :(
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I'm doing the same texts as you and I know 100% that i'm writing on LBW in the exam - there is no point in me studying for AMFAS because I definitely know that I am writing on LBW.. so I think you should only focus on one text if you are absolutely confident and 100% sure you are going to write on it in the exam..
If you are not sure what text you want to write on then I think you should study for both but put in a little more effort towards your favourite just so that you have that little bit of extra confidence towards your most preferred option where you can use your second text as a 'backup' only.
I HOPE YOU FAIL THE TEXT RESPONSE SECTION BECAUSE OF YOUR ONE WAY ATTITUDE
sometimes when you play with fire you get burnt simmo
just keep that above line in mind
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Why? Which one's in particular?
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I HOPE YOU FAIL THE TEXT RESPONSE SECTION BECAUSE OF YOUR ONE WAY ATTITUDE
sometimes when you play with fire you get burnt simmo
just keep that above line in mind
lol... do we get to choose to do either one of the language anlysis's if there is more than one? Cause we might only feel confident in analysing one... :P
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lol thats different . . . . u got me there hahah
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I HOPE YOU FAIL THE TEXT RESPONSE SECTION BECAUSE OF YOUR ONE WAY ATTITUDE
sometimes when you play with fire you get burnt simmo
just keep that above line in mind
lol... do we get to choose to do either one of the language anlysis's if there is more than one? Cause we might only feel confident in analysing one... :P
ROFLZ :D YES~!!!!
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I'm doing the same texts as you and I know 100% that i'm writing on LBW in the exam - there is no point in me studying for AMFAS because I definitely know that I am writing on LBW.. so I think you should only focus on one text if you are absolutely confident and 100% sure you are going to write on it in the exam..
If you are not sure what text you want to write on then I think you should study for both but put in a little more effort towards your favourite just so that you have that little bit of extra confidence towards your most preferred option where you can use your second text as a 'backup' only.
I HOPE YOU FAIL THE TEXT RESPONSE SECTION BECAUSE OF YOUR ONE WAY ATTITUDE
sometimes when you play with fire you get burnt simmo
just keep that above line in mind
haha.. why would I need to focus on AMFAS? It'd just be a complete waste of time.
I'd be able to write a response for any question that would come up in the exam for LBW.
Like what Costa said: "If you study well enough to understand it fully, you WILL be able to answer any question that arises because you have prepared for that."
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I HOPE YOU FAIL THE TEXT RESPONSE SECTION BECAUSE OF YOUR ONE WAY ATTITUDE
sometimes when you play with fire you get burnt simmo
just keep that above line in mind
lol... do we get to choose to do either one of the language anlysis's if there is more than one? Cause we might only feel confident in analysing one... :P
lol I was going to write the exact same thing
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I HOPE YOU FAIL THE TEXT RESPONSE SECTION BECAUSE OF YOUR ONE WAY ATTITUDE
sometimes when you play with fire you get burnt simmo
just keep that above line in mind
lol... do we get to choose to do either one of the language anlysis's if there is more than one? Cause we might only feel confident in analysing one... :P
lol I was going to write the exact same thing
g m t a
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Personally, I'm only going to focus on studying for one text. My school is doing Hard Times and In the Lake of the Woods, and I've decided to focus on Hard Times. No point studying for both, in my opinion. I rather have a very thorough and in-depth understanding of one book than a less comprehensive knowledge of two books.
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I HOPE YOU ALL FUCK UP THE TEXT RESPONSE COZ OF ONLY LEARNING ONE TEXT AND WEN I HAVE LEARNT 2 I WILL BE LAUGHING WITH MY 50 IN ENGLISH
p.s i intend to only learn one also lol
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im just gonna focus on hard times, apparently you always get a character based question so i should be fine
but i wouldn't be able to answer anything on the victorian era lol
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I WILL BE LAUGHING WITH MY 50 IN ENGLISH
I will be laughing if I get anywhere near a 50 in English! :P More like 25-30 max for me :(
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I will be crying (in happiness) if i get anywhere near 50 in english!! :P
But it aint gonna happen :(
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I reckon all hope is lost for me now... But I know you can do it, *Roxxii*! Aim for that 50!
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Yeh, the other thing that I don't think has been mentioned is that you get TWO questions for each text with the questions almost always being entirely differnt in their focus. If you aren't able to answer EITHER of those then you probably have a very limited understanding of the text anyway
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Yeh, the other thing that I don't think has been mentioned is that you get TWO questions for each text with the questions almost always being entirely differnt in their focus. If you aren't able to answer EITHER of those then you probably have a very limited understanding of the text anyway
Precisely.
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I reckon all hope is lost for me now... But I know you can do it, *Roxxii*! Aim for that 50!
Awww dont say that :(
ii believe in you :) Just keep trying your best~!!
And as for 50...uhh....i don't think so :P
I'd be in tears of joy if i could get 40 but i'll be happy if i can get 35 :)
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Study both if you've kept up with them throughout the year. Naturally you'll have a favourite and thats the one you will prefer to write on but there ARE dodgy questions. Like the Look Both Ways sound/silence sample question. Think about it, by studying both you double the chances of getting a question that you have addressed before and what that can do to your confidence levels in the exam could deffinantly boost your other sections considerably. My sister last year got a question that she had already written her speech on as well as a practise essay a week before the exam: She got 42 and wrote her POV piece in 5 minutes. A familiar question would obviously be so beneficial, as long as your not some idiot who writes an irrelevant essay that they frantically convince themselves is the same as the question. But if that is you, you shouldnt be 35+ anyway. Know each really well, i mean its english, come on... Anyway it's not like we have to learn our context texts back to front. By the way, wth is up with TSFX english lectures? Like, chem, methods and bio last year were fantastic. Today i learned that i have to memorise 10 quotes, making it extremely likely i wont be able to use quotes at all, as well as that Sir Thomas More can be regarded as a man for all seasons? Thats lucky, i was going to say that he was a well seasoned man instead. And the notes where just misquoted crap i could find in any study guide for half the price but without giving up a whole day of studying. English lectures are crap. Better off staying home and writing a few essays. But anyway if its this time of the year and you dont really know one of your texts at all if you havn't been going over them throughout the year, then yeah, i'd just go for the one.
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There's no way in hell I'm preparing for A Man For All Seasons. LBW is a) EASIER to write on b) funner to write on and c) there's so much in it that you can talk about. Symbolism, camera angles etc.
Although, I am a media student as well- so maybe thats why I favour LBW so much
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There's no way in hell I'm preparing for A Man For All Seasons. LBW is a) EASIER to write on b) funner to write on and c) there's so much in it that you can talk about. Symbolism, camera angles etc.
Although, I am a media student as well- so maybe thats why I favour LBW so much
Personally, I really like AMFAS. Oddly enough, I've enjoyed both of the play texts the most in both years of VCE ie. Macbeth and A Man for All Seasons. They tend to have a lot more depth and ranging implications, in my opinion.
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What do you mean by 'raging implications'?
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I quite enjoy reading AMFAS- but I don't love it and I hate writing on it. So no way known I'm doing it.
I enjoyed my two plays in Lit. Don't get me wrong, I love plays just not... AMFAS
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Leaning towards 1984, but I will study for both.
What costargh said is correct, Furthermore, I think of it like this. If you study well enough to understand it fully, you WILL be able to answer any question that arises because you have prepared for that. Eg. In legal if you are confident with the whole course you should be able answer any question that arises...
But I don't think there is any harm learning/studying a bit about the other text response...you never know what will happen in the exam.
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What do you mean by 'raging implications'?
By 'ranging implications' I mean there is, comparatively, a lot more that can be interpreted from the texts and despite their age, they seem to be very relevant, even today. This quality of being timeless and boundless is part of the reason they intrigue me.
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Leaning towards 1984, but I will study for both.
What costargh said is correct, Furthermore, I think of it like this. If you study well enough to understand it fully, you WILL be able to answer any question that arises because you have prepared for that. Eg. In legal if you are confident with the whole course you should be able answer any question that arises...
But I don't think there is any harm learning/studying a bit about the other text response...you never know what will happen in the exam.
There is an opportunity cost.
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soo.. whats the consensus? study both or one? there should seriously be a poll on this.
i'm favoring to study one text (LBW)... although.. im not too sure anymore.
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Personally i suggest studying for one text, as you will be more confident with whatever question that does arise. I see it pointless to study two, when you could spend more time studying for anotehr subject. Because i have a choice between writing on LBW or 1984, i decided to write on LBW, because 1: im more confident with it, and 2: it would take me longer to read-re-read 1984 in depth and gain a thorough understanding.
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Even at all the English lectures they lecturers talk as if you should have already made your mind up as to which text you are going to write on.