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VCE Stuff => VCE Languages Other Than English (LOTE) => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Japanese SL => Topic started by: Capricious on November 19, 2007, 01:52:18 pm
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Anyone here do Japanese SL? I thought it was a fair exam. Listening was shocking for me because the female voice was so hard to understand. Though reading comprehension wasn't too bad but sometimes I didn't read the question properly and had to start over again gah massive time wasting. Writing was fantastic 'cause there was a topic that I had only just done recently and was able to use a fair bit of the complex grammar my teacher goes on about. The first one was a gimme though...How'd you guys all go?
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listening - horrible. guessed most of it
reading - ok. made up most of it though. but in part B, as long as you show some grammar, you'll get marks. of course it needs to be kinda related to the topic.
writing - they had really good topics. i did q.25 about persuading a Japanese friend to come along to a trip with us at the end of the year.
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I'm going into yr 11 Japanese in 2008 its my Second Language and i love it. lol
Obviously didn't do the exam because im not doing yr 12 Jap lol... I do pretty well in japanese at the moment though so i'm hoping i can keep it up. lol.
Aimee :)
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Anyone around here going to be doing 3/4 Japanese next year?
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Currently taking Japanese SL 3/4.
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not a popular subject.
It is my worse subject by a long way, getting very bad marks.
Got my oral persuasion sac on Friday.
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Good luck with it, marbs! My oral persuasion's still a fair few weeks off.
Apparently we've finished all the grammar required for VCE now :D
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Thanks... Yeh you guys must have done a fair bit of work.
We have just started passive form, and I think he plans to do transitive/intransitive verbs
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causative form is something done to you that you don't like? i wouldn't say so.
it's more like something that someone else makes/lets happen
eg. the subject does something to something else.
先生が質問をたくさん聞かせてくれた。
the teacher let [someone] ask lots of questions.
お母さんは僕に野菜を全部食べさせた。
my mother made me eat all of the vegetables
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passive is a little more difficult because we don't use passive form in English much.
passive describes that something is being done to the subject.
僕が皆に気もいと言われます。
i am told by everybody that i have bad vibes.
as you can see, 僕 is the subject, and something is being done to it.
formation of PASSIVE
negative masu form without masu + れる
eru/iru verbs require addition of ら before れる is added.
eg. 食べられる 歌われる 言われる 掃除される やれる
formation of CAUSATIVE
negative masu form without masu + せる
eru/iru verbs require addition of さ before せる (eg. 食べる -> 食べさせる）
する changes to させる; 来る changes to 来(こ)させる
eg. 飲まれる 食われる 違われる 勉強させる
that's it.
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Linked from the best guide I've ever used: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/causepass.html
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What the hell you're doing that in 1/2?
Dang native teachers.
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I'm doing Japanese 3/4 next year...but we only had 3 people enrol to year 12 jap so they cancelled our class (we only got told yesterday :() so now we have to do it by correspondence, has anyone else here done jap 3/4 by correspondence?
Aimee :)
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yep its not that bad its 3 hours a week at a centre for south east melbourne areas the place should be Brentwood Secondary and ive heard from friends that they got pretty good teachers + you meet more people.
The other option you can refer to your school is merge you jap subject with another school which has both advantages and disadvatages.
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wow. only three people? For the past 3 - 4 years at my school there've been two classes of Japanese SL for 3/4 and generally 2 - 3 for 1/2.
How many people in your year level?
I did 3/4 last year and came out with a 32, which I was happy with. I love scaling.. I'll probably end up with a 40 :) Are all of you doing it this year finding it enjoyable? easy/hard??
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It's pretty hard. I'm failing everything and I spoke English during my speaking exam.
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what did you get for a your sacs and exam and oral mark? for a 32
thats sort of what im aiming for
all thats left now is the end of year written exam hope it goes well
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For a 32 my three grades with my study score were: A, B+, A
I never dropped below an A on any SAC, so I only got a B+ for Unit 4 after it was standardized I think.
How do you think you went on your Oral exam?? Both exams really arent as scary as your teacher probably makes them out to be (mine did!)
In my oral last year, I made quite a few mistakes and made up sentences occasionally; they don't expect you to be perfect. I'm a big talker with my hands too, and my teacher'd told me to try not to make gestures as I was speaking. In the exam, I couldn't help it, so I let my hands fly in my lap and a full on whacked the table, the sound like reverberated around the room (mortifying!) < so it's okay if you made mistakes
Same goes for your written exam, the examiners DO NOT expect you to be perfect. They expect you to be competent & relatively sensical; like a student studying japanese.
It isn't exactly an easy exam though either. I found the listening most challenging.. make sure you do lots of practice (leading edge & past exams are good) and get a few generic sentences encompassing most - if not all - grammar patterns that you can manipulate and utilise in the exam. You have the dictionary in the reading and written areas, so don't stress too much if your kanji and that aren't perfect, either. And know your text types!! They can save you in the written section.
We had to have a written piece in at least once a week, but if you havent been doing that, its not too late to get a heap done, even if they don't get corrected, you've still got the practice there and it will help.