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Archived Discussion => Written Examinations => 2008 => End-of-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Mathematical Methods and CAS => Topic started by: onlyfknhuman on November 07, 2008, 10:39:42 am

Title: FUCK
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 07, 2008, 10:39:42 am
If a question required the answer to the previous question to be solved, can you still gain marks if that previous question was wrong?

FUCK THOUGHT THE AREA OF THE TRIANGLE WAS 1/2 B X H OMFGGGGGG
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Post by: 205ism on November 07, 2008, 10:40:43 am
i sure hope so
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Post by: puffy on November 07, 2008, 10:41:12 am
Yes, consequential marks, as long as it doesn't make the question easier etc

Also I did so crap! xD
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Post by: bingbinglanglang on November 07, 2008, 10:41:29 am
isnt that the are of a triangle?
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Post by: bingbinglanglang on November 07, 2008, 10:42:52 am
i defintely lost like 15 marks!!!!

what was the statistics for getting a b+ or A on last years exam 1?

anyone know??
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Post by: 205ism on November 07, 2008, 10:44:54 am
last year's statistics for methods cas

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2007/section3/vce_math_methods_cas_ga07.pdf
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Post by: bingbinglanglang on November 07, 2008, 10:50:56 am
on the statistics thingy....what arethe grade 1, grade 2, grade 3?

is grade 1 the eam 1 or somthing???lol

dont get ittt!!!
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Post by: DiMmY on November 07, 2008, 10:53:14 am
on the statistics thingy....what arethe grade 1, grade 2, grade 3?

is grade 1 the eam 1 or somthing???lol

dont get ittt!!!

Perhaps a quick read of the titles may help...?

As for the exam, fuck Q9 - screwed that up bad. As well as Q4 (got it wrong the first time, continued on with the rest of the exam and didn't end up getting back to it)
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Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 07, 2008, 10:54:28 am
I hate prism's for life. SCREW THE EGYPTIANS { i know its not a pyramid buT CLOSE NOUGH!!
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Post by: bucket on November 07, 2008, 10:56:04 am
Lol I was able to work backwards from part b) of that prism question to work out y in terms of x :P Lol at them giving us the TSA.
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Post by: bingbinglanglang on November 07, 2008, 10:56:19 am
hey but on the statistics....exam 1  is out of 80????how does that work when there are only 40 marks obtainable?
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Post by: random.photon on November 07, 2008, 10:56:56 am
hey but on the statistics....exam 1  is out of 80????how does that work when there are only 40 marks obtainable?

Probably cross marked..
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Post by: Nelle91 on November 07, 2008, 10:57:57 am
I used .5bh but found h in terms of x and it worked for me
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Post by: Mikey123 on November 07, 2008, 10:59:34 am
isnt that the are of a triangle?


No

I used heroin formual for that haha. Idk was bull shitting my way to an answer.
Title: Re: FUCK
Post by: DiMmY on November 07, 2008, 10:59:55 am
hey but on the statistics....exam 1  is out of 80????how does that work when there are only 40 marks obtainable?

It would be wise not to question the VCAA overlords and just go by the score ranges (41-55/80 got you an B+ last year)
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Post by: bingbinglanglang on November 07, 2008, 11:02:29 am
so if i divide the scores by 2 then i can compare right???
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Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 07, 2008, 11:05:03 am
Lol I was able to work backwards from part b) of that prism question to work out y in terms of x :P Lol at them giving us the TSA.

Yeah i tried doing that but fuck i suck at algebra.
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Post by: arj_only_99.8 on November 07, 2008, 11:12:45 am
SAY....if u lost 1 mark on the calc free and get 100% on the calc active ...wat r u looking at for a raw score?
assuming u kill all the SACs as well?
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Post by: grimsy on November 07, 2008, 11:14:17 am
hey but on the statistics....exam 1  is out of 80????how does that work when there are only 40 marks obtainable?
just double it
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Post by: random.photon on November 07, 2008, 11:15:11 am
SAY....if u lost 1 mark on the calc free and get 100% on the calc active ...wat r u looking at for a raw score?
assuming u kill all the SACs as well?

lol near 50 probably..
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Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 07, 2008, 11:17:41 am
a 50 no doubt lol
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Post by: Piney.z on November 07, 2008, 11:20:21 am
Area of triangle .. u could use
(1/2)bc sin A
.. i think =]
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Post by: clau.diia on November 07, 2008, 11:30:59 am
1/2 * base * height IS the area of a triangle
and you could do it from the diagram

it would have been (x times the square root of 3) divided by 4
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Post by: kurrymuncher on November 07, 2008, 11:37:45 am
hey what did everyone get for the 2nd traffic light question?

some poeple at our school were squaring the values or someshit. Why, i got like 0.0333 or 0.3 , something like that
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Post by: Lulu on November 07, 2008, 11:38:39 am
i got 0.3
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Post by: fredrick on November 07, 2008, 11:41:10 am
do u guys think this was easier/harder than last year
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Post by: DiMmY on November 07, 2008, 11:45:02 am
do u guys think this was easier/harder than last year

Harder for sure.
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Post by: kurrymuncher on November 07, 2008, 11:45:49 am
if it was harder, that means its better for us right.
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Post by: monicak on November 07, 2008, 11:47:27 am
do u guys think this was easier/harder than last year
About the same standard... only the last question was slightly difficult.. the rest were straightforward
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Post by: bingbinglanglang on November 07, 2008, 11:47:56 am
i don't think it was harder but many people didnt finnsh so hopefully it will be better for us!!
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Post by: Glockmeister on November 07, 2008, 02:53:44 pm
hey but on the statistics....exam 1  is out of 80????how does that work when there are only 40 marks obtainable?

Probably cross marked..

Most subjects have two markers marking the paper(eg English). Mathematics on the other hand only requires one marker marking it. So they double the mark and that gets you the final raw score.
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Post by: riadnicolas on November 07, 2008, 04:16:22 pm
hey but on the statistics....exam 1  is out of 80????how does that work when there are only 40 marks obtainable?

Probably cross marked..

Most subjects have two markers marking the paper(eg English). Mathematics on the other hand only requires one marker marking it. So they double the mark and that gets you the final raw score.

why will they double it if you dont get half marks?
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Post by: [LiGhT]BulB on November 07, 2008, 05:28:13 pm
yeah you get consequential as long as the complexity of the second question does not change
like
if the previous answer you got didn't make the next question easier or harder, you will gain full marks for the second question
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Post by: shinny on November 07, 2008, 05:32:50 pm
hey but on the statistics....exam 1  is out of 80????how does that work when there are only 40 marks obtainable?

Probably cross marked..

Most subjects have two markers marking the paper(eg English). Mathematics on the other hand only requires one marker marking it. So they double the mark and that gets you the final raw score.

why will they double it if you dont get half marks?

If you apply for a statement of marks, your paper gets remarked again. For bio midyear last year, normally it's only marked once, but since I got a SoM, it got marked twice, and the marks given by the two examiners differed by 1 mark, so in effect, I got a half mark. Doubling the marks avoids this.
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Post by: bingbinglanglang on November 07, 2008, 07:04:06 pm
wait so are you saying all papers get marked at least twice....but getting a SoM means that it get marked again which may effect your marks for that subject and in effect, your enter???

Title: Re: FUCK
Post by: shinny on November 07, 2008, 07:09:30 pm
wait so are you saying all papers get marked at least twice....but getting a SoM means that it get marked again which may effect your marks for that subject and in effect, your enter???



No, most subjects get marked just once I think. Ones which get marked twice are the more subjective ones like English. As for the SoM, it may well affect your SS and ENTER, but in my case, I might've gained that half mark, or I might've lost it - it can go either way and in the end I wouldn't say it really matters.
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Post by: tazypaige on November 07, 2008, 07:18:40 pm
i thought everything was marked at least twice????
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Post by: shinny on November 07, 2008, 07:24:12 pm
VCAA cbf for maths and sciences I'm pretty sure. They just double it later.
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Post by: methodsboy on November 07, 2008, 07:28:00 pm
delfos said it was easier
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Post by: doboman on November 07, 2008, 07:29:29 pm
I dont think they mark it again for SoM shin. They have all the data ready in their comps- and just print if off
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Post by: shinny on November 07, 2008, 08:30:32 pm
Nah I remember reading somewhere that they remark it. Hence why I had a half mark on my bio despite bio being a subject where it's only marked once.
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Post by: davo on November 07, 2008, 08:47:15 pm
any subject where there is only one answer eg maths accounting etc is only marked once.
subjects like english, business etc will be marked twice as your marks could be affected by the person who is correcting it
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Post by: xox.happy1.xox on November 07, 2008, 08:55:24 pm
hey but on the statistics....exam 1  is out of 80????how does that work when there are only 40 marks obtainable?

It would be wise not to question the VCAA overlords and just go by the score ranges (41-55/80 got you an B+ last year)

Wow... That's like, just over 50%... Now there is hope for me :smitten:

EDIT: I'm buying a statement of marks for each subject this year now... Goodbye $70... I'm gonna be so poor after this is over; hopefully it's worth it. :(
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Post by: Flaming_Arrow on November 07, 2008, 09:15:07 pm
hey but on the statistics....exam 1  is out of 80????how does that work when there are only 40 marks obtainable?

It would be wise not to question the VCAA overlords and just go by the score ranges (41-55/80 got you an B+ last year)

Wow... That's like, just over 50%... Now there is hope for me :smitten:

EDIT: I'm buying a statement of marks for each subject this year now... Goodbye $70... I'm gonna be so poor after this is over; hopefully it's worth it. :(

whats the point?
Title: Re: FUCK
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on November 07, 2008, 09:18:08 pm
hey but on the statistics....exam 1  is out of 80????how does that work when there are only 40 marks obtainable?

It would be wise not to question the VCAA overlords and just go by the score ranges (41-55/80 got you an B+ last year)

Wow... That's like, just over 50%... Now there is hope for me :smitten:

EDIT: I'm buying a statement of marks for each subject this year now... Goodbye $70... I'm gonna be so poor after this is over; hopefully it's worth it. :(

whats the point?

I like knowing exactly what I got, and not a rough estimation. I guess I'm just pedantic on that sort of stuff. Lol
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Post by: Flaming_Arrow on November 07, 2008, 09:22:37 pm
hey but on the statistics....exam 1  is out of 80????how does that work when there are only 40 marks obtainable?

It would be wise not to question the VCAA overlords and just go by the score ranges (41-55/80 got you an B+ last year)

Wow... That's like, just over 50%... Now there is hope for me :smitten:

EDIT: I'm buying a statement of marks for each subject this year now... Goodbye $70... I'm gonna be so poor after this is over; hopefully it's worth it. :(

whats the point?

I like knowing exactly what I got, and not a rough estimation. I guess I'm just pedantic on that sort of stuff. Lol

hmmm ok then
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Post by: bingbinglanglang on November 07, 2008, 09:37:39 pm
can anyone tell me what my study score wud be if i get a B and B+ and A as my grade?
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Post by: ell on November 07, 2008, 09:41:25 pm
Bit more data for you bucket :)

I got:
GA1 B
GA2 B+
GA3 A
= 36
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Post by: bingbinglanglang on November 07, 2008, 09:42:56 pm
woooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! wait, your talkin bout methods CAS right???
raw?