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Title: 2009 Physics
Post by: lacoste on November 11, 2008, 08:38:23 pm
 does anyone know where i could get the 2009 curriculum/study design for physics?

if not, does anyone know the course changes ?


 :) :)



Cheers!!

Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 11, 2008, 08:47:24 pm
from wat i know, no more transistors, i didnt find it that bad i found it pretty easy, apprantly teachers couldnt teach it.

study design, > vcaa website, some where there,
Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: lacoste on November 11, 2008, 08:55:16 pm
nope, not on the site not the new study design
Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 12, 2008, 08:05:28 am
You'll prob have to wait till next year then O_O.
Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 12, 2008, 08:31:22 am
The newly accredited Physics Study Design 2009-2012 will be distributed in Term 1 2008, as published in the VCAA Bulletin, December 2007, p.8. (PDF - 352KB)

quote from vcaa

try reading =p

so it should be out
Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: lacoste on November 12, 2008, 04:55:52 pm



The newly accredited Physics Study Design 2009-2012 will be distributed in Term 1 2008, as published in the VCAA Bulletin, December 2007, p.8. (PDF - 352KB)


i read that, but i was wondering if anyone had it already, knowing vn!!

;p
Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 12, 2008, 07:12:02 pm
haha oh sorry :P
Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: lacoste on December 08, 2008, 08:14:30 pm
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/physics/physicsindex.html

direct link!
Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: cara.mel on December 17, 2008, 07:40:29 am
from wat i know, no more transistors, i didnt find it that bad i found it pretty easy, apprantly teachers couldnt teach it.

study design, > vcaa website, some where there,

Students didn't get it either.
Unis that do electrical engineering etc were complaining none of their students knew anything about it, so it got chucked into VCE physics
Students still didn't get it by the time they got to uni. Thus it didn't work :P
Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: hard on December 17, 2008, 01:57:06 pm
from wat i know, no more transistors, i didnt find it that bad i found it pretty easy, apprantly teachers couldnt teach it.

study design, > vcaa website, some where there,

Students didn't get it either.
Unis that do electrical engineering etc were complaining none of their students knew anything about it, so it got chucked into VCE physics
Students still didn't get it by the time they got to uni. Thus it didn't work :P
what?! but then that means students opting to do electrical engineering will just experience greater difficulty due to not even touching transistors in VCE.
Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: cara.mel on December 17, 2008, 02:16:25 pm
eh but it was taught poorly in VCE.
I feel I have little to no understanding of it and just rote learnt formulas
In 2006 exam there was a question literally no one in the state got right according to vcaa's accepted answer (4 mark question, max was 3/4). some people decided to actually work it out and got something more complex than vcaa's answer. So they can't even get it right. Every other year the transistor questions were answered very poorly.


-They won't experience greater difficulty as they are on an equal playing field where no one knows about it
-I never argued against removing it from the study design. If it could be taught properly that would be a good start :P
Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: dcc on December 17, 2008, 02:42:26 pm
eh but it was taught poorly in VCE.
I feel I have little to no understanding of it and just rote learnt formulas
In 2006 exam there was a question literally no one in the state got right according to vcaa's accepted answer (4 mark question, max was 3/4). some people decided to actually work it out and got something more complex than vcaa's answer. So they can't even get it right. Every other year the transistor questions were answered very poorly.


-They won't experience greater difficulty as they are on an equal playing field where no one knows about it
-I never argued against removing it from the study design. If it could be taught properly that would be a good start :P

My dad (a university lecturer) was quite unhappy with the Physics course (especially the treatment of semiconductors) as he felt that it didn't actually explain semiconductors at all (which is true, no knowledge of how semiconductors ACTUALLY FUNCTION is required for VCE).  He explained to me the physical processes behind semiconductors, however there was no situation where I could use this in VCE Physics last year.  The most 'exciting' thing one did was explaining biasing, which really doesn't give you a good understanding of transistors at all!
Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: NE2000 on December 17, 2008, 05:14:20 pm
Have voltage dividers with a load been taken out of the course? The study design says "unloaded voltage dividers" but I just wanted to make sure because I can't imagine why they would take out ones with a Vout actually applying on a load.
Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: lacoste on January 04, 2009, 06:18:26 pm
Is it worth going to TSFX, TSSM or NEAP or one of the other companies' Summer School LECTURES?, because they may address the new study design and things to look out for?

PROS/CONS?

Cheers!
Title: Re: 2009 Physics
Post by: vce08 on January 04, 2009, 08:21:53 pm
I didn't do that for chem and I still achieved an alright score. (where there was  new study design in 2008)

From what i've heard the summer school lectures aren't very useful, since you will not be able to understand everything they talk about due to them being conducted at a fairly fast pace. By the time you go over these topics in class you would have  probably forgotten the contents of the lectures.