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Archived Discussion => Written Examinations => 2008 => End-of-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Chemistry => Topic started by: Jurples on November 13, 2008, 10:56:25 am

Title: How was it?
Post by: Jurples on November 13, 2008, 10:56:25 am
So how was the exam? I did alright luylz
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 13, 2008, 11:06:15 am
i thought it was pretty easy, but writing the equations for the NiCd fuel cell, screwed me over.

What did people get over the efficiency of the fuel cell over the combustion of hydrogen, near the last question?

Im not that great at chemistry but heres my multiplechoice

CCAC
DCAD
BACA
DCAD
BDDC

anyone else ?
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 13, 2008, 11:17:25 am
cmon u faggot viewers, post something.

= (
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: Faraz on November 13, 2008, 11:21:25 am
Alright I think the questions where okay.. I finished with 2 mins to spare. but overall I think it was harder than mid year and way longer to much reading and thinking specially for multi choice.

Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: Fidgey on November 13, 2008, 11:28:29 am
it was ok except for the .9V question on the fuel cell
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: nrisme on November 13, 2008, 11:33:27 am
for the .92 v question u hatta figure out q using n(e-) X 96500....and then q = it....E = VIt ....so E = q X 0.92
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: Mao on November 13, 2008, 11:39:09 am
Alright I think the questions where okay.. I finished with 2 mins to spare. but overall I think it was harder than mid year and way longer to much reading and thinking specially for multi choice.

good to hear! :)



Well done to everyone, Enjoy your FREEDOM [or soon to be for some people]

solutions coming right up.... after a nap.
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 13, 2008, 11:39:14 am
yeah i assumed n[e-] was 2, because of the equation and i did wat u did,
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 13, 2008, 11:39:36 am
MAO U SEXY BOY.. WOOT WOOT.
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: cosmicgate on November 13, 2008, 11:42:38 am
Isn't i remember getting like 2 x 96500 for Q and that E = V x Q... and transposing.

hard exam.. probs lost heaps in MC... extended response probs lost heaps of little ones... wat was the Ni Cadmium half cell equation... was it just simple redox balancing?? :(
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: lanvins on November 13, 2008, 11:44:17 am
Alright I think the questions where okay.. I finished with 2 mins to spare. but overall I think it was harder than mid year and way longer to much reading and thinking specially for multi choice.



I'm the opposite, i thought it was much easier then the midyear
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 13, 2008, 11:45:54 am
Alright I think the questions where okay.. I finished with 2 mins to spare. but overall I think it was harder than mid year and way longer to much reading and thinking specially for multi choice.



I'm the opposite, i thought it was much easier then the midyear

same maybe because i picked up chem this year, and gay ass stoichemetry took awhile to sink in.
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: hippo326 on November 13, 2008, 11:47:18 am
did anyone got 25.34 degrees celcius for the final temperature of the 2nd question?
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: We Want Peace. on November 13, 2008, 11:48:01 am
pretty easy i think..
i finished it 20mins before.
save some marks from checking...( * last ques didnt see the word 'half'..--so stupid)
And i guessed one question ..."
the recharging equation for NioH2.( cannot be bothered to figure out)
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 13, 2008, 11:48:48 am
did anyone got 25.34 degrees celcius for the final temperature of the 2nd question?

nope =(
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: We Want Peace. on November 13, 2008, 11:49:55 am
did anyone got 25.34 degrees celcius for the final temperature of the 2nd question?

25.34 is impossible..( u heat up water just by 0.34 degrees?)

* i got 25.3+ 44.45( cannot remember the exactly value, but it was something like that!)  = 69.8? ( around there)
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: We Want Peace. on November 13, 2008, 11:53:14 am
What is everyone's ans for the reasoning of a lower amount of methanol?

well..i guessd it..( saying it was due to the poison of the catalytic electrode)...


hummm...brain stucked..cant think of any good reason
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: Fidgey on November 13, 2008, 11:55:17 am
i said something about non standard conditions
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: rainny2048 on November 13, 2008, 11:56:24 am
I thought it was much easier than the midyear, so hopefully i'll get an A
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: monicak on November 13, 2008, 11:57:11 am
It was ok. Was pretty angry that we had to write an equation for our chosen chemical (H2SO4) since my teacher told me not to learn those equations. I tried to write the Lead acid battery equation, but I'm not sure if I wrote the right states. I think I got quite a few MC wrong and the Ni/Cd and 0.9V questions.. Did anyone get a blank paper to scan/put up solutions?
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: Synesthetic on November 13, 2008, 11:57:59 am
did anyone got 25.34 degrees celcius for the final temperature of the 2nd question?
You forgot to convert kJ to J, 69.8° is correct
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: jesso1 on November 13, 2008, 12:01:21 pm
i think it was alright, pretty easy. just yeah a lot of reading it was long as. is someone going to post the questions and answers?
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: Emma_2333 on November 13, 2008, 12:01:36 pm
Has any1 written up the answers for chem exam 2?   :)
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: iamdan08 on November 13, 2008, 12:03:27 pm
did anyone got 25.34 degrees celcius for the final temperature of the 2nd question?
You forgot to convert kJ to J, 69.8° is correct

I'm pretty sure thats what i got, from memory.  :)
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: vce01 on November 13, 2008, 12:06:07 pm
i thought it was pretty easy, but writing the equations for the NiCd fuel cell, screwed me over.

What did people get over the efficiency of the fuel cell over the combustion of hydrogen, near the last question?

Im not that great at chemistry but heres my multiplechoice

CCAC
DCAD
BACA
DCAD
BDDC

anyone else ?

haha mine are so different. i just guessed but. eh, exactly how good would you rate yourself in chem on a scale of 1 to 10? :P
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: Synesthetic on November 13, 2008, 12:06:40 pm
Has any1 written up the answers for chem exam 2?   :)
I am writing some up :P
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: bucket on November 13, 2008, 12:09:05 pm
did anyone got 25.34 degrees celcius for the final temperature of the 2nd question?
You forgot to convert kJ to J, 69.8° is correct
I got the same, you had to convert the kj to j, find the increase then add it to the initial temperature!!

I thought it was very easy considering I did minimal study, but hey I might've just gotten everything wrong :P I was happy walking out though :) Should get around a B/B+...A if I'm lucky :)
For the concentration question in short answer using KA (i've forgotten the chemical, ethanol or something) did you guys end up with 0.35M? :)
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: We Want Peace. on November 13, 2008, 12:10:28 pm
bucket ..huhu

yeah.Same here
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: shademaker on November 13, 2008, 12:11:56 pm
my multi choice was
c b a d d a a a b a c a a d d d c a d c
but i didnt get a chance to check over any of that so who knows if its right
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 13, 2008, 12:13:18 pm
i put down just 44.5 it asked for how much it increased by. not total did it?
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 13, 2008, 12:15:31 pm
my multi choice was
c b a d d a a a b a c a a d d d c a d c
but i didnt get a chance to check over any of that so who knows if its right

WAT THE FUCK SO DIFFERENT FROM MINE, OH DEAR :(
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: iamdan08 on November 13, 2008, 12:15:48 pm
i put down just 44.5 it asked for how much it increased by. not total did it?
Nah total
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: Charbel on November 13, 2008, 12:18:12 pm
it was ok except for the .9V question on the fuel cell

ne = It/F

ne x V = V i T / F

E / F = Ne V

E = Ne V F


i cant believe i subbed 1 for number of moles of electrons.. o well ... 1 mark.
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: csq7 on November 13, 2008, 12:20:57 pm
I wrote methanol evaporates so theres less of it after electrolysis.
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: ed_saifa on November 13, 2008, 12:22:11 pm
Very fair exam :D
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 13, 2008, 12:25:06 pm
i thought it was pretty easy, but writing the equations for the NiCd fuel cell, screwed me over.

What did people get over the efficiency of the fuel cell over the combustion of hydrogen, near the last question?

Im not that great at chemistry but heres my multiplechoice

CCAC
DCAD
BACA
DCAD
BDDC

anyone else ?

haha mine are so different. i just guessed but. eh, exactly how good would you rate yourself in chem on a scale of 1 to 10? :P

a 1.
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 13, 2008, 12:25:45 pm
did anyone got 25.34 degrees celcius for the final temperature of the 2nd question?
You forgot to convert kJ to J, 69.8° is correct
I got the same, you had to convert the kj to j, find the increase then add it to the initial temperature!!

I thought it was very easy considering I did minimal study, but hey I might've just gotten everything wrong :P I was happy walking out though :) Should get around a B/B+...A if I'm lucky :)
For the concentration question in short answer using KA (i've forgotten the chemical, ethanol or something) did you guys end up with 0.35M? :)

yup
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: Mao on November 13, 2008, 12:29:47 pm
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HOLY SHIT SHE IS HOT
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: onlyfknhuman on November 13, 2008, 12:41:18 pm
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HOLY SHIT SHE IS HOT

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Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: rainny2048 on November 13, 2008, 01:06:08 pm
wat was the exam out of?
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: doboman on November 13, 2008, 01:06:58 pm
wat was the exam out of?

79 i believe
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: j.el-halabi on November 13, 2008, 01:13:34 pm
did anyone got 25.34 degrees celcius for the final temperature of the 2nd question?

nope =(
yes:)
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: Pandemonium on November 13, 2008, 01:22:15 pm
did anyone got 25.34 degrees celcius for the final temperature of the 2nd question?

nope =(
yes:)
it's wrong. can't be done.
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: chlloe on November 13, 2008, 03:07:13 pm
did anyone got 25.34 degrees celcius for the final temperature of the 2nd question?

Yes. I did. I think its wrong clearly though. :(
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: username on November 13, 2008, 04:21:37 pm
What are consequential marks? Can someone give me a definition?

If I didn't know the answer to part a of a question, but needed it to calculate part b, and if I said

"If x = 49328492"

then used that to calculate the answer using the correct method, would I get marks?
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: julezian on November 13, 2008, 04:59:16 pm
pretty easy i think..
i finished it 20mins before.
save some marks from checking...( * last ques didnt see the word 'half'..--so stupid)
And i guessed one question ..."
the recharging equation for NioH2.( cannot be bothered to figure out)
OMG IT DID SAY HALF DIDNT IT
FUK
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: gfb on November 13, 2008, 05:00:19 pm
2 of my friends full marked it and my gf lost 2 marks :( argh.
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: hard on November 13, 2008, 05:01:07 pm
cmon u faggot viewers, post something.

= (

i agree, that's with every thread!
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: julezian on November 13, 2008, 05:02:02 pm
garh... i thought i aced it but i think i lsot atleast 8 marks probably 10.. atleast
thar goes a+
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: shademaker on November 13, 2008, 06:53:02 pm
hey what would 89% on sacs, a mid-high A+ for midyear, and a high A to low A+ (depending on where the cut off mark is) make in terms of a study score
thanks
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: hard on November 13, 2008, 07:00:20 pm
pretty easy i think..
i finished it 20mins before.
save some marks from checking...( * last ques didnt see the word 'half'..--so stupid)
And i guessed one question ..."
the recharging equation for NioH2.( cannot be bothered to figure out)
OMG IT DID SAY HALF DIDNT IT
FUK

that's what happens when you are competing with people like mao and dcc
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: Synesthetic on November 13, 2008, 07:05:04 pm
hey what would 89% on sacs, a mid-high A+ for midyear, and a high A to low A+ (depending on where the cut off mark is) make in terms of a study score
thanks

That's almost exactly identical to my results...
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: Jeffree on November 13, 2008, 09:50:11 pm
what abouttt 98% on sacs 72/78 in midyear like 76/78 in this one?? 
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: doboman on November 13, 2008, 09:56:52 pm
43+
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: lauzy358 on November 13, 2008, 10:18:18 pm
what abouttt 98% on sacs 72/78 in midyear like 76/78 in this one?? 

ohoh that's like me =)
i thought it was a fairly easy exam too. forgot to memorise the sulfuric acid equation thing (its use or whatever) so at least one mark off, meh
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: ed_saifa on November 13, 2008, 10:20:26 pm
what abouttt 98% on sacs 72/78 in midyear like 76/78 in this one?? 

ohoh that's like me =)
i thought it was a fairly easy exam too. forgot to memorise the sulfuric acid equation thing (its use or whatever) so at least one mark off, meh
lauzy358 who's your uni chem teacher?
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: riadnicolas on November 13, 2008, 10:38:14 pm
what abouttt 98% on sacs 72/78 in midyear like 76/78 in this one?? 

i got that for my midyear and wanted a similar score for end of year but had a shocking day probs get 65/79

what would a low A and mid A+ get with 94% sacs
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: lauzy358 on November 13, 2008, 11:48:02 pm
what abouttt 98% on sacs 72/78 in midyear like 76/78 in this one?? 

ohoh that's like me =)
i thought it was a fairly easy exam too. forgot to memorise the sulfuric acid equation thing (its use or whatever) so at least one mark off, meh
lauzy358 who's your uni chem teacher?

umm dwyer? i'm @ monash. he teaches at some school, i always forget the name...
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: unknown id on November 13, 2008, 11:49:59 pm
omg, that guy is the best!!! i went to one of his lectures and he was so comprehensive and enthusiastic about every bit of chemistry he taught! i think he also released his own study guide...
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: lauzy358 on November 13, 2008, 11:52:54 pm
ahaha yeh, i can see that =P
he was pretty alright, we used to take breaks in between lectures and watch about 10 minute's worth of funnies =]
i still got pretty sleepy in the lecture theatre though lolol
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: pastiche on November 14, 2008, 01:30:05 am
Just to clarify - is the multiple choice mark going to be doubled like it was in the midyear? That threw me off some in June and I'd rather be prepared for it if it were to happen again. Thanks!
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: username on November 14, 2008, 08:25:34 am
Just to clarify - is the multiple choice mark going to be doubled like it was in the midyear? That threw me off some in June and I'd rather be prepared for it if it were to happen again. Thanks!

Everything is doubled.
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: shademaker on November 14, 2008, 09:58:12 am
everything is doubled? whats that mean
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: ed_saifa on November 14, 2008, 10:27:11 am
ahaha yeh, i can see that =P
he was pretty alright, we used to take breaks in between lectures and watch about 10 minute's worth of funnies =]
i still got pretty sleepy in the lecture theatre though lolol
I was listening to one of his enhancement lectures on muso and it seems like a really fun class.
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: Pandemonium on November 14, 2008, 03:36:02 pm
everything is doubled? whats that mean
If max exam mark is like 40, then it'd be doubled to 80.
So if you got 30/40 in total, you'd get 60/80.
Ratio's the same, doesn't change anything.
Title: Re: How was it?
Post by: charm on November 14, 2008, 05:19:53 pm
ahaha yeh, i can see that =P
he was pretty alright, we used to take breaks in between lectures and watch about 10 minute's worth of funnies =]
i still got pretty sleepy in the lecture theatre though lolol

gee lauzy i wonder who you are...cos i got to the funnies filled uni chem class too! =P i THINK i know u=D haha...have fun on monday with me!