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Title: Consequential Marks
Post by: username on November 13, 2008, 07:15:44 pm
No one answered this before, so I thought I'd post it here instead.


What are consequential marks? Can someone give me a definition?

For example, in chemistry -> If I didn't know the answer to part a of a question, but needed it to calculate part b, and if I said

"If x = 49328492"

then used that to calculate the answer using the correct method, would I get marks?
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: xers on November 13, 2008, 07:31:25 pm
Lol if you could just make up any number to get consequential mark then why not make x = 1 for the calculation to be simpler? Jks i'm not doing chemistry so i don't know.
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: username on November 13, 2008, 10:07:46 pm
:( thats no help.
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: cara.mel on November 14, 2008, 11:10:21 am
Consequential marks are when you make an error earlier on in a question, but you are awarded for the rest of the question for using the right method with an incorrect number (ie, so you only lose marks for your mistake once)

Yes, you would get full consequential marks for part b (provided you chose a number for you x that was reasonable and within the range of the expected answer, obviously. No picking 0 either :P)
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: Eriny on November 14, 2008, 11:12:23 am
Depends on the question. For maths, usually yes. If the question is only worth one mark though then you need to have the correct answer to get that mark, in which case, making up an answer for an earlier question probably won't help (unless you guess correctly!). In Psych, for example, if they ask you to name a concept in part a and you get it wrong, then in part b they ask you to define the concept, and you defined the concept you gave in part a, you won't get consequential marks. However, if you define the correct concept in part b after giving the wrong answer for part a, you'll get full marks for part b.
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on November 17, 2008, 10:52:07 am
Lol, you don't know how much I'm relying on consequential marks in Maths! Spare me all Gods. :P
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: bucket on November 17, 2008, 11:01:03 am
Lol I <3 consequential marks.
In chem i didn't know how to work something out so I made up an answer and used that to answer the other part :P
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on November 17, 2008, 11:08:17 am
It doesn't work in Legal though. :P I said a Coroner was someone who determines sanctions for members of Parliament. XD Two marks out of probably 20 which I lost. :(
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: nerd on December 13, 2008, 03:49:16 pm
You can't gain consequential marks if you have made the question easier than intended by the examinors. For example, if by using your answer, you only needed to solve a basic circular function rather than a more complex one, you would not gain the marks because you have not shown the relevant working that the marks are worth. If that makes sense...
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: kurrymuncher on December 13, 2008, 03:51:05 pm
Fuck, what if i actually labelled something in hours instead of minutes for methods. Am i fucked??
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: dekoyl on December 13, 2008, 03:58:30 pm
Fuck, what if i actually labelled something in hours instead of minutes for methods. Am i fucked??
Most simply, yes. But optimistically, maybe you're just getting confused with something else :P No use worrying about it now. Results come out in a day.

But also.. what if you forgot to label units? Oh, damn.
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: kurrymuncher on December 13, 2008, 04:01:55 pm
Like instead of writing 3.6 hours i wrote 3.6 minutes, r u sure, FUCK
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: dekoyl on December 13, 2008, 04:04:45 pm
Like instead of writing 3.6 hours i wrote 3.6 minutes, r u sure, FUCK
I'm pretty sure.. :( I honestly have forgotten the exam question, but for the Indiana Jones, if you said he ran through like 20 km of jungle in 3.6 minutes with an injured leg, then it's pretty off.

Are you 100% sure you wrote minutes when it's supposed to be hours?

Maybe instead of 3.6 hours you wrote 216 minutes, then that would also be right.
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: kurrymuncher on December 13, 2008, 04:07:27 pm
damn, my possible ss of high 30s went down to low 20s. Oh well, thanks dekoyl :)
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: vce01 on December 13, 2008, 08:27:57 pm
Like instead of writing 3.6 hours i wrote 3.6 minutes, r u sure, FUCK

i made the same mistake, i don't see why you would be deducted more than a mark if you showed the proper working out.

same goes for the questions after, after all, the difference was only the units. the methods applied would still be the same.
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: Eriny on December 13, 2008, 10:35:20 pm
Yeah, definitely. You might get a mark taken off for not writing down the correct unit. It's a common error, you won't lose the entire question over it.
Title: Re: Consequential Marks
Post by: Fyrefly on December 14, 2008, 11:34:14 am

...and it certainly wouldn't lower ur SS by that much...