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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: Voltman on November 22, 2008, 11:24:59 am

Title: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: Voltman on November 22, 2008, 11:24:59 am
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Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: ell on November 22, 2008, 11:29:30 am
So they can sell new textbooks.
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: brendan on November 22, 2008, 05:54:14 pm
because it gets out of date?
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: lanvins on November 22, 2008, 06:03:30 pm
because there's only so many times you can assess students without becoming repetitve
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: shinny on November 22, 2008, 06:50:37 pm
because there's only so many times you can assess students without becoming repetitve

I wouldn't say thats the actual reason. It seems more to be a case of necessity and priority instead. Like in the new chem course, they removed all the chem history stuff because I imagine they realised it was pretty pointless, and put in some way more useful stuff like NMR, IR etc. which uni students have often gone into uni only to learn it then and find those topics quite difficult. The courses are revised after a certain period each time (6 years or something I think, not too sure) and I guess suggestions are just taken as what will be useful, and what should be taken out.
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: mystikal on November 22, 2008, 09:29:28 pm
more variety questions that can be asked since over a period of time it is easy to predict what the questions are going to be on the same study design for 4-5 years.  Thus they have to change it so that it wont become as predictable. Downside to this of this action companies make more money. Also causes teacher to adapt to the design and tests their ability to not only learn the new concepts added for themselves but also to teach to the class as well.
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: Voltman on November 23, 2008, 04:23:47 am
because there's only so many times you can assess students without becoming repetitve

I wouldn't say thats the actual reason. It seems more to be a case of necessity and priority instead. Like in the new chem course, they removed all the chem history stuff because I imagine they realised it was pretty pointless, and put in some way more useful stuff like NMR, IR etc. which uni students have often gone into uni only to learn it then and find those topics quite difficult. The courses are revised after a certain period each time (6 years or something I think, not too sure) and I guess suggestions are just taken as what will be useful, and what should be taken out.

So for the math subjects, it is likely to stay very similar always?
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: /0 on November 23, 2008, 06:10:48 am
New technology means new study designs.

In the new methods and spesh study design, examiners introduced a non-calc exam so people wouldn't rely completely on their graphics calculators, which were being experimented with up until 2005. Then of course there is CAS...

Also changing emphasis on what topics are seen as important. (see 'New Math')
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on November 23, 2008, 10:18:41 am
Apparently, they are merging Methods and CAS into one subject in 2010? Now everyone needs to fork out an extra $500 for a Ti-89 Titanium. :P
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: Glockmeister on November 25, 2008, 12:11:10 pm
Apparently, they are merging Methods and CAS into one subject in 2010? Now everyone needs to fork out an extra $500 for a Ti-89 Titanium. :P

Well there has been a transition period such that most Year 9s should now be purchasing CAS calculators exclusively. So by the time they get to Year 12, they would still be using the same calc as in Yr 9 (assuming it doesn't get stolen...)
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on November 25, 2008, 12:12:44 pm
Apparently, they are merging Methods and CAS into one subject in 2010? Now everyone needs to fork out an extra $500 for a Ti-89 Titanium. :P

Well there has been a transition period such that most Year 9s should now be purchasing CAS calculators exclusively. So by the time they get to Year 12, they would still be using the same calc as in Yr 9 (assuming it doesn't get stolen...)

Lol, if my calculator got stolen; there goes another $500. :(
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: Glockmeister on November 25, 2008, 12:14:24 pm
Apparently, they are merging Methods and CAS into one subject in 2010? Now everyone needs to fork out an extra $500 for a Ti-89 Titanium. :P

Well there has been a transition period such that most Year 9s should now be purchasing CAS calculators exclusively. So by the time they get to Year 12, they would still be using the same calc as in Yr 9 (assuming it doesn't get stolen...)

Lol, if my calculator got stolen; there goes another $500. :(

I've had that happen to me (but with Ti-84s) twice. And I went to a private school...
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on November 25, 2008, 12:19:28 pm
Apparently, they are merging Methods and CAS into one subject in 2010? Now everyone needs to fork out an extra $500 for a Ti-89 Titanium. :P

Well there has been a transition period such that most Year 9s should now be purchasing CAS calculators exclusively. So by the time they get to Year 12, they would still be using the same calc as in Yr 9 (assuming it doesn't get stolen...)

Lol, if my calculator got stolen; there goes another $500. :(

I've had that happen to me (but with Ti-84s) twice. And I went to a private school...

Wow... Even at my shit school, my calculator was never stolen... Although other people's were. :P
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: Mao on November 25, 2008, 12:51:40 pm
Apparently, they are merging Methods and CAS into one subject in 2010? Now everyone needs to fork out an extra $500 for a Ti-89 Titanium. :P

$200 now. I think by then 89T would be retired, people will be using the n-spire CAS [about 250 now?]

and that's under the national curriculum [or something like that]
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on November 25, 2008, 12:53:33 pm
Apparently, they are merging Methods and CAS into one subject in 2010? Now everyone needs to fork out an extra $500 for a Ti-89 Titanium. :P

$200 now. I think by then 89T would be retired, people will be using the n-spire CAS [about 250 now?]

and that's under the national curriculum [or something like that]

Wow... They've gone down THAT much? I feel so ancient. :(
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: chlloe on November 25, 2008, 01:55:14 pm
$500??? ::)

Mine Ti-89 was $200, brand new.

It did die before exams though :( I had to borrow my teachers!!
They are too bulky for my pencil case, I dropped it SOOOO many times
Title: Re: Why do people keep changing the study designs for VCE?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on November 25, 2008, 02:10:08 pm
$500??? ::)

Mine Ti-89 was $200, brand new.

It did die before exams though :( I had to borrow my teachers!!
They are too bulky for my pencil case, I dropped it SOOOO many times

Lol, just like me... It was my brother's hand me down from when he done Further in year 12, 2005... It was dropped about 15 times back then; now, more than 50 times. It broke my pencil case as well, so I had to keep buying new ones. ):