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General Discussion => General Discussion Boards => Other General Discussion => Topic started by: 2happy on November 13, 2007, 06:38:31 pm
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Does height have a factor in brightness?
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Does height have a factor in brightness?
OMG, This is really pathetic !! But I'll vote lol ...
But no height does not have a factor in brightness
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godamit kepler.
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Haha, this is so keplerish. I put 180-185, although I'd probably just scrape a 180 and don't want to be categorised with 175 people. :P
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i actually have no idea how tall i am. i don't own a tape measure
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Estimate! Compare yourself with friends who know their height. Then squeeze your height between theirs.
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:cry: i'm probably the shortest person on fsn :( feel so small lol
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I put 170-175. I think I'm about 175.
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I'm 172cm. I haven't grown since grade 6 :(
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Who's the other giant? Hi.
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last time i measured ie a few years ago i was 172cm. i dont think iv grown that much more though but im not sure.
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:cry: i'm probably the shortest person on fsn :( feel so small lol
Hehe I doubt it. I picked 150-160 and I'm the only one who did it seems. 159cm ............ I'm vertically challenged :(
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i'm 198cm :D
NOT A GIANT!
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I bet with enough votes, this'll end up as a normal distribution, with a bunch of giants at the end...
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last time i measured ie a few years ago i was 172cm. i dont think iv grown that much more though but im not sure.
That's freaky. *wonders how tall the other Mel is*
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i'm 198cm :D
NOT A GIANT!
given that a lot of AFL teams have only 1-10 players over this height; ure pretty tall.
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Height does not have a factor in brightness-obviously.
About 180 cm for me.
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can anyone name any: short geniuses?
tall geniuses?
medium geniuses?
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Beethoven was apparently 1.62m tall. I'm a muso so he's genius to me :P
EDIT: And Rachmaninov was 1.98m. Hehe. Nobody knows who that is unless they're a muso :P
So, what exactly did you mean by genius? :P
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Beethoven was apparently 1.62m tall. I'm a muso so he's genius to me :P
What do you mean by genius?
Ahmad
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Beethoven was apparently 1.62m tall. I'm a muso so he's genius to me :P
What do you mean by genius?
Ahmad
touche
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171.. i thought i was tall.
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D=
That's almost 172!
That means all us mel's are pretty much the same height
*panics*
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It is only height..
only...
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:cry: i'm probably the shortest person on fsn :( feel so small lol
Hehe I doubt it. I picked 150-160 and I'm the only one who did it seems. 159cm ............ I'm vertically challenged :(
Aww us short people need to stick together ;)
I'm about 165cm
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I hope I still grow>>> :lol:
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I haven't grown since grade 6 :(
........ so that means when you were 12 years old, you were taller then than I am now at 18 years old.
:(
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I haven't grown since grade 6 :(
........ so that means when you were 12 years old, you were taller then than I am now at 18 years old.
:(
It means when I was 12, I was the tallest in primary school, AND THEN EVERYONE OVERTOOK ME. I have problems too :(
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im basically perfect... 185-190, blonde. nerdy.
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im basically perfect... 185-190, blonde. nerdy.
:roll: :roll:
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Ummm...there isn't an option for me...:/
146 cm :]
Haven't grown since I was 13. And that was by 1/2 a cm. :D
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Ummm...there isn't an option for me...:/
146 cm :]
Haven't grown since I was 13. And that was by 1/2 a cm. :D
:shock: that's so cute hehe ^_^
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But no height does not have a factor in brightness
Are you sure about that?
[b]Anne Case and Christina Paxson, "Stature and status: Height, ability, and labor market outcomes", Center for Health and Wellbeing, Princeton University, July 2006[/b]
"It has long been recognized that taller adults hold jobs of higher status and, on average, earn more than other workers. A large number of hypotheses have been put forward to explain the association between height and earnings. In developed countries, researchers have emphasized factors such as self esteem, social dominance, and discrimination. In this paper, we offer a simpler explanation: On average, taller people earn more because they are smarter. As early as age 3 ? before schooling has had a chance to play a role ? and throughout childhood, taller children perform significantly better on cognitive tests. The correlation between height in childhood and adulthood is approximately 0.7 for both men and women, so that tall children are much more likely to become tall adults. As adults, taller individuals are more likely to select into higher paying occupations that require more advanced verbal and numerical skills and greater intelligence, for which they earn handsome returns. Using four data sets from the US and the UK, we find that the height premium in adult earnings can be explained by childhood scores on cognitive tests. Furthermore, we show that taller adults select into occupations that have higher cognitive skill requirements and lower physical skill demands."
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But no height does not have a factor in brightness
Are you sure about that?
[b]Anne Case and Christina Paxson, "Stature and status: Height, ability, and labor market outcomes", Center for Health and Wellbeing, Princeton University, July 2006[/b]
"It has long been recognized that taller adults hold jobs of higher status and, on average, earn more than other workers. A large number of hypotheses have been put forward to explain the association between height and earnings. In developed countries, researchers have emphasized factors such as self esteem, social dominance, and discrimination. In this paper, we offer a simpler explanation: On average, taller people earn more because they are smarter. As early as age 3 ? before schooling has had a chance to play a role ? and throughout childhood, taller children perform significantly better on cognitive tests. The correlation between height in childhood and adulthood is approximately 0.7 for both men and women, so that tall children are much more likely to become tall adults. As adults, taller individuals are more likely to select into higher paying occupations that require more advanced verbal and numerical skills and greater intelligence, for which they earn handsome returns. Using four data sets from the US and the UK, we find that the height premium in adult earnings can be explained by childhood scores on cognitive tests. Furthermore, we show that taller adults select into occupations that have higher cognitive skill requirements and lower physical skill demands."
Wow, lol, I must be a completely stupid then. :lol:
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i dont think its because theyre smarter, i think its because people admire more, respsect more etc... when youre taller. Because of your stature. people are more intimidated by it. .. but its subconscious
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I'm relatively short. Not sure how short, but short nontheless. Probably around 165cm?
Ummm...there isn't an option for me...:/
146 cm :]
Haven't grown since I was 13. And that was by 1/2 a cm. :D
Heh :P
Short people are cool =]
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On average, taller people earn more because they are smarter. As early as age 3 ? before schooling has had a chance to play a role ? and throughout childhood, taller children perform significantly better on cognitive tests.
but most asians are short :?
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But no height does not have a factor in brightness
Are you sure about that?
[b]Anne Case and Christina Paxson, "Stature and status: Height, ability, and labor market outcomes", Center for Health and Wellbeing, Princeton University, July 2006[/b]
"It has long been recognized that taller adults hold jobs of higher status and, on average, earn more than other workers. A large number of hypotheses have been put forward to explain the association between height and earnings. In developed countries, researchers have emphasized factors such as self esteem, social dominance, and discrimination. In this paper, we offer a simpler explanation: On average, taller people earn more because they are smarter. As early as age 3 ? before schooling has had a chance to play a role ? and throughout childhood, taller children perform significantly better on cognitive tests. The correlation between height in childhood and adulthood is approximately 0.7 for both men and women, so that tall children are much more likely to become tall adults. As adults, taller individuals are more likely to select into higher paying occupations that require more advanced verbal and numerical skills and greater intelligence, for which they earn handsome returns. Using four data sets from the US and the UK, we find that the height premium in adult earnings can be explained by childhood scores on cognitive tests. Furthermore, we show that taller adults select into occupations that have higher cognitive skill requirements and lower physical skill demands."
I personally don't believe that ...
I believe anyone has the potential to be great, no matter how tall or short they are. It's upto the person as to whether or not they'll harness their potential ..
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What do you mean, do you dispute their findings?
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Ummm...there isn't an option for me...:/
146 cm :]
Haven't grown since I was 13. And that was by 1/2 a cm. :D
:shock: that's so cute hehe ^_^
Well, it's got its perks. I never get asked for a concession card when I'm travelling on public transport and I get into movies for cheap. That's only when I'm broke and desperate of course. I wouldn't abuse the advantages of my height...nope, no sirree >.>
But then it also has its disadvantages. I have a horrible time reaching for things at Coles and, sadly, I've never made it to the second row in any of my school photos hehehe :D
Oh, and if something rolls under a really tight space, guess who gets nominated to try and get it out? 'You're small, Viv. You do it.'
I remember once I had to squeeze through the really tiny window of our old house when my mum locked us out. Good times. Good times. Hahahaha
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But why would taller people be smarter? They've done a bunch of experiments but haven't offered any real scientific reasons ...
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Well, it's got its perks. I never get asked for a concession card when I'm travelling on public transport and I get into movies for cheap. That's only when I'm broke and desperate of course. I wouldn't abuse the advantages of my height...nope, no sirree >.>
i bet you always get asked for id too?
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Ummm...there isn't an option for me...:/
146 cm :]
Haven't grown since I was 13. And that was by 1/2 a cm. :D
:shock: that's so cute hehe ^_^
Well, it's got its perks. I never get asked for a concession card when I'm travelling on public transport and I get into movies for cheap. That's only when I'm broke and desperate of course. I wouldn't abuse the advantages of my height...nope, no sirree >.>
But then it also has its disadvantages. I have a horrible time reaching for things at Coles and, sadly, I've never made it to the second row in any of my school photos hehehe :D
Do you have any photos of yourself? I want to see how short you are :D
Do you look young? I know someone who's 16 but they look like they're 10 or 11 or something. :P
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haven't offered any real scientific reasons ...
[b]Anne Case and Christina Paxson, "Stature and status: Height, ability, and labor market outcomes", Center for Health and Wellbeing, Princeton University, July 2006, [/b] pp 2-3
"As early as age 3, before schooling has had a chance to play a role, taller children perform significantly better on tests of verbal ability. Indeed, throughout childhood, taller children outperform others on standardized tests. Tall children are significantly more likely to become tall adults, and as adults they are more likely to select into higher paying occupations that require more advanced verbal and numerical skills and greater intelligence, for which they earn handsome returns. In Section II, we provide a brief review of the literature on environmental and genetic determinants of growth and cognition, and highlight the reasons why height and cognitive ability are likely to be correlated. Section III contains a theoretical framework that motivates our empirical research, and Section IV discusses the data sets we use for our analyses. Section V presents evidence. We first show how the heights of children and adults are related to features of the childhood environment, and make the case that factors that influence height are those that can also be expected to affect cognitive ability. We then present evidence from three data sets?two from Britain and one from the US?that taller children score better on a variety of cognitive tests administered at different ages. Finally, we examine how heights are related to earnings and occupational choice. We find that the height premium in adult earnings can be explained by childhood scores on cognitive tests. Furthermore, we show that taller adults select into occupations that have higher cognitive skill requirements and lower physical skill demands."
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I don't care what proof you have, I don't believe it...
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Didn't you hear me. I said asians are short
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I don't care what proof you have, I don't believe it...
It's not my proof, it's the findings provided by researchers at Princeton University.
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ZOOOMG i'm 160cm (ok ok maybe like 158, 159 but yeah rounded off 160cm). And hell, i don't consider myself as a dumbass :p
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I don't care what proof you have, I don't believe it...
Reminds me of this passage:
[b]Reg Graycar, 'Law Reform by Frozen Chook: Family Law Reform for the New Millenium?' [2000] [i]Melbourne University Law Review[/i] 29[/b]
"In August 1999 The Australian published in its weekend magazine a cover story about the Family Court in which Lone Fathers? Association spokesperson Barry Williams gave us some insight into that organisation?s sources of data on family law and social policy issues. He was described as believing that official statistics on family violence ... used by the Family Court, academia, law societies and other professional bodies, are incorrect. He maintains, for example, that men and women are equally violent. ?My ex-wife, for example, once chucked a frozen chook at me? he says by way of illustration."
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Ummm...there isn't an option for me...:/
146 cm :]
Haven't grown since I was 13. And that was by 1/2 a cm. :D
:shock: that's so cute hehe ^_^
Well, it's got its perks. I never get asked for a concession card when I'm travelling on public transport and I get into movies for cheap. That's only when I'm broke and desperate of course. I wouldn't abuse the advantages of my height...nope, no sirree >.>
But then it also has its disadvantages. I have a horrible time reaching for things at Coles and, sadly, I've never made it to the second row in any of my school photos hehehe :D
Do you have any photos of yourself? I want to see how short you are :D
Do you look young? I know someone who's 16 but they look like they're 10 or 11 or something. :P
Daniel, lol, I'll send you a photo if you like. Don't really want to put one up for the entire forum to see. It's funny looking at height differences :lol:
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New York Times, 1897 ... someone made a list of who they considered "genius" and their heights.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9A05E2D6143DE633A25752C3A9619C94669ED7CF&oref=slogin
Conclusion:
142 tall; 74 middle; 125 short
hahaha
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sweet find ninwa
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New York Times, 1897 ... someone made a list of who they considered "genius" and their heights.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9A05E2D6143DE633A25752C3A9619C94669ED7CF&oref=slogin
Conclusion:
142 tall; 74 middle; 125 short
hahaha
That was my theory, I forgot to post it last night :P
My theory is that people who are really tall or really short are smart, and people in the middle (me? :P) aren't as smart.
Lolz, anecdotal again, but every short person I know seems to be smart :lol:
Daniel, lol, I'll send you a photo if you like. Don't really want to put one up for the entire forum to see.
Okay :D
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Yao Ming is like 2 m. I don't think he is known for is intellect. This guy was forced to take up basketball and was apart of a breeding program to create elite sportsman according to one source. Few may remember those female swimmers at at the Atlanta olympic games, who looked like they came out of an action movie.
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yeh; but he was growing so fast he had like a tumor or something
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im 171-172...and about most asians being short, thats soo true, they're short and smart.
my friend is like 162 and she's probably the smartest in our class, but i still dont think height should judge your intellect.
i dont think its because theyre smarter, i think its because people admire more, respsect more etc... when youre taller. Because of your stature. people are more intimidated by it. .. but its subconscious
i think thats a good point, because most of the worlds population is middle range anyway so i guess most of us blend in, while the tall and short ones are noticed for their height, maybe giving them confidence or sumthin :?
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im 171-172...and about most asians being short, thats soo true, they're short and smart.
finally! someone acknowledged my insightful revelation ahaha
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heh well if height has anything to do with brainpower it obviously didnt work out for me! ahah
last time i checked i was 185cm, although carrying the crapload of books we do in vce has probably crushed my spine so i could be less now! ahahaha :P
and yes asian people are generally short as someone said earlier.. hence why my parents never loose me in a crowd when walking through china town.. LOL
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lol dw odette, theres no way that science can say ALL TALL PEOPLE ARE SMARTER THAN ALL SHORT PEOPLE
Brendans only saying that theres likely evidence f a correlation... its just a tendancy, it doesnt reflect on you :P relax!
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lol dw odette, theres no way that science can say ALL TALL PEOPLE ARE SMARTER THAN ALL SHORT PEOPLE
Brendans only saying that theres likely evidence f a correlation... its just a tendancy, it doesnt reflect on you :P relax!
Hehe ok :) ^_^
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lol dw odette, theres no way that science can say ALL TALL PEOPLE ARE SMARTER THAN ALL SHORT PEOPLE
Brendans only saying that theres likely evidence f a correlation... its just a tendancy, it doesnt reflect on you :P relax!
Hehe ok :) ^_^
But you can still develop a linear regression and figure out how height explains x% of your intelligence. "Explain" does not mean cause, however, so there is no causal relationship implied.
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Hmm ok :)
I just believe that we're all equal, it's just we are all different in what exactly we happen to be good at...
Some people appear more intelligent than others because they are constantly learning something... whether it's through reading, experiences,etc.
We are all capable of being intelligent, it's just what you choose to do with your intelligence and how you develop it thats what makes you stand out. It's got nothing to do with height, gender or whatever..
Thats just my opinion though ^_^
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Hmm ok :)
I just believe that we're all equal, it's just we are all different in what exactly we happen to be good at...
Some people appear more intelligent than others because they are constantly learning something... whether it's through reading, experiences,etc.
We are all capable of being intelligent, it's just what you choose to do with your intelligence and how you develop it thats what makes you stand out. It's got nothing to do with height, gender or whatever..
Thats just my opinion though ^_^
Of course. Like Galelleo was saying: the relationship is just an observed relationship, but it doesn't imply causation. This means that it doesn't say height causes intelligence. It's just merely saying: there happens to be more smart people who are tall, than smart people who are short!
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Hmm ok :)
I just believe that we're all equal, it's just we are all different in what exactly we happen to be good at...
Some people appear more intelligent than others because they are constantly learning something... whether it's through reading, experiences,etc.
We are all capable of being intelligent, it's just what you choose to do with your intelligence and how you develop it thats what makes you stand out. It's got nothing to do with height, gender or whatever..
Thats just my opinion though ^_^
Of course. Like Galelleo was saying: the relationship is just an observed relationship, but it doesn't imply causation. This means that it doesn't say height causes intelligence. It's just merely saying: there happens to be more smart people who are tall, than smart people who are short!
Oh I see lol... ^_^ :oops: hehe
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About 180 cm
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if I get FIAA, this is proof odette that Short people can be smart :D
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169-170cm..
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if I get FIAA, this is proof odette that Short people can be smart :D
Hehe ok ^_^ good luck with that :)
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I'm 190 but I went for 190-195. Why? Because I can, that's why. I'm not particularly smart. Smarter than the normies I guess.
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New York Times, 1897 ... someone made a list of who they considered "genius" and their heights.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9A05E2D6143DE633A25752C3A9619C94669ED7CF&oref=slogin
Conclusion:
142 tall; 74 middle; 125 short
hahaha
Haha, Kepler is there, 5 ft 3
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170-175cm here.....havent checked in ages though
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asians arent short, i come from a school full of asian giants,
well, not giants, just normal ones, like 170/5 ish...
me included...
maybe that's the freakiness of south-eastern melbourne...
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more like the food in melbourne hehe
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asians arent short, i come from a school full of asian giants,
well, not giants, just normal ones, like 170/5 ish...
me included...
maybe that's the freakiness of south-eastern melbourne...
I'm in that range! That's not giant. 180+ is giant for asians.
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I am 183 cm or 1.83 metres :)