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General Discussion => General Discussion Boards => Other General Discussion => Topic started by: millstone on December 25, 2007, 05:05:44 am

Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: millstone on December 25, 2007, 05:05:44 am
well fsn isn't banned in china
and bos is
so a big thumbs up for fsn
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: Mao on December 25, 2007, 08:35:46 am
well fsn isn't banned in china
and bos is
so a big thumbs up for fsn
wtf? why is bos banned in china?
i thought only porn was =P
unless... you're saying something there?
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: millstone on December 30, 2007, 03:54:52 am
well fsn isn't banned in china
and bos is
so a big thumbs up for fsn
wtf? why is bos banned in china?
i thought only porn was =P
unless... you're saying something there?

hahhaa i dunno it's just blocked for some reason
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: cara.mel on December 30, 2007, 08:48:47 am
Is wikipedia still blocked over there? (off topic I know, but yeah 8))
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: Daniel15 on December 30, 2007, 01:59:15 pm
well fsn isn't banned in china
and bos is
so a big thumbs up for fsn
wtf? why is bos banned in china?
Heaps of sites are blocked in China. http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/ has a test to check whether a site is blocked in China (unfortunately, looks like it's down at the moment).
Google is blocked, Wikipedia is blocked, Flickr is blocked, MegaUpload is blocked, other sites are blocked too. Supposedly, they block all blogs as well :o
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_notable_websites_blocked_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_words_censored_by_search_engines_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: Mao on December 30, 2007, 08:41:28 pm
WTF google's blocked???!!!!!!
that makes chinese net so shit... bloody freakin communists *anger rise up within*
lucky i got out :P
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: jamesdrv on December 30, 2007, 08:49:05 pm
I don't think google.com is blocked, just certain google services :)
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: RD on December 30, 2007, 09:10:49 pm
well fsn isn't banned in china
and bos is
so a big thumbs up for fsn
wtf? why is bos banned in china?
Heaps of sites are blocked in China. http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/ has a test to check whether a site is blocked in China (unfortunately, looks like it's down at the moment).
Google is blocked, Wikipedia is blocked, Flickr is blocked, MegaUpload is blocked, other sites are blocked too. Supposedly, they block all blogs as well :o
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_notable_websites_blocked_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_words_censored_by_search_engines_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China
yeah China have heaps of stuff blocked.
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: Daniel15 on January 02, 2008, 03:06:15 pm
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WTF google's blocked???!!!!!!
As far as I know, the main Google site (google.com) is blocked. google.cn is allowed, but search results are censored (several results are omitted)
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: sheepz on January 02, 2008, 03:27:53 pm
Supposedly, they block all blogs as well :o

i don't think they really block blogs? not the chinese ones anyway i reckon... because in a mock exam for chinese that i did they were talking about chinese blogs and their difference with Western blogs o.0
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: AppleXY on January 02, 2008, 03:30:22 pm
One question. Can you use a proxy server to get on other blocked sites in china?
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: Collin Li on January 02, 2008, 03:53:09 pm
One question. Can you use a proxy server to get on other blocked sites in china?

Yes. If you get caught you will be in trouble though.
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: Mao on January 02, 2008, 04:10:19 pm
One question. Can you use a proxy server to get on other blocked sites in china?
Yes. If you get caught you will be in trouble though.
use a proxy to get onto a proxy and use the proxy within proxy =D
or build one yourself, it isnt that hard right?

how big "trouble" is it?? :P
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: Toothpaste on January 02, 2008, 08:40:13 pm
One question. Can you use a proxy server to get on other blocked sites in china?
Yes. If you get caught you will be in trouble though.
use a proxy to get onto a proxy and use the proxy within proxy =D
or build one yourself, it isnt that hard right?

how big "trouble" is it?? :P
You'll become an unperson.
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: enwiabe on January 03, 2008, 09:47:39 am
Supposedly, they block all blogs as well :o

i don't think they really block blogs? not the chinese ones anyway i reckon... because in a mock exam for chinese that i did they were talking about chinese blogs and their difference with Western blogs o.0

You missed the point of that comprehension. The difference between western blogs and chinese blogs is that one exists and the other doesn't.

jk :P

And yes, it is oh-so-sweet that we're giving Bogged-down old Server grief. :)
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: Mao on January 03, 2008, 09:50:42 am
One question. Can you use a proxy server to get on other blocked sites in china?
Yes. If you get caught you will be in trouble though.
use a proxy to get onto a proxy and use the proxy within proxy =D
or build one yourself, it isnt that hard right?

how big "trouble" is it?? :P
You'll become an unperson.
LOL ur obsessed with that book arent u Toothpick?? ;D ;D

and @ enwiabe: chinese blogs do exist, just that very little of it is on politics (they are hunted down and destroyed and put in the memory holes that lead to the blazing inferno.... it never existed anyways :P )

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Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: excal on January 03, 2008, 12:39:38 pm
One question. Can you use a proxy server to get on other blocked sites in china?

Yes. If you get caught you will be in trouble though.

Says who?

As if the Chinese could touch me here. That is if they find me =)

..unless you're referring to a Chinese person in China using a proxy server to proxy out.
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: Collin Li on January 03, 2008, 04:05:35 pm
One question. Can you use a proxy server to get on other blocked sites in china?

Yes. If you get caught you will be in trouble though.

Says who?

As if the Chinese could touch me here. That is if they find me =)

..unless you're referring to a Chinese person in China using a proxy server to proxy out.

That's exactly what I mean. Of course their laws have no power on you here.
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: bubble sunglasses on January 04, 2008, 09:19:05 am
One question. Can you use a proxy server to get on other blocked sites in china?

Yes. If you get caught you will be in trouble though.

Says who?

As if the Chinese could touch me here. That is if they find me =)

..unless you're referring to a Chinese person in China using a proxy server to proxy out.

That's exactly what I mean. Of course their laws have no power on you here.
 
  However, at least one person here and one in the UK faced extradition to America over hacking "offences"
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: Collin Li on January 04, 2008, 09:54:00 am
Oh, that's probably because they were charged with hacking U.S. private property, so there is a grounds for extradition.

If you are surfing the internet freely in Australia, they have no grounds to lock you up just because they have a different philosophy on how free the internet should be. I should have said it better, but I'm not sure how.
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: millstone on January 10, 2008, 08:05:46 am
well google wasn't blocked
myspace wasn't blocked
fsn wasn't blocked

bos was blocked
wiki was blocked
post secret was blocked

that's all i remember
Title: BOS banned in china
Post by: Collin Li on January 10, 2008, 01:17:06 pm
well google wasn't blocked

Hehe, Google would have been filtered. It isn't blocked :)

How was China?
Title: Re: BOS banned in china
Post by: excal on January 10, 2008, 02:30:07 pm
Oh, that's probably because they were charged with hacking U.S. private property, so there is a grounds for extradition.

If you are surfing the internet freely in Australia, they have no grounds to lock you up just because they have a different philosophy on how free the internet should be. I should have said it better, but I'm not sure how.

In Australia, at least, a person cannot generally be extradited unless dual criminality is shown - this is where the subject of an extradition request must have a committed an offence that would also be an offence under Australian law.

A good example to cite is the 'gag order' placed by the US on David Hicks - where he can't talk to the media at all for the next year(?). If he were to tell his story to the media, Australia would be obliged to refuse any extradition request from the US as there is no law preventing him from doing so here (that said, he cannot profit from his story).
Title: Re: BOS banned in china
Post by: Collin Li on January 10, 2008, 02:36:06 pm
I think extradition is justified if you are within their jurisdictions (hacking private property belonging to a U.S. individual). Breaking a freedom of speech law (from China, for example) while you are in Australia is a completely different matter.
Title: Re: BOS banned in china
Post by: excal on January 10, 2008, 02:51:05 pm
Well, it's because 'trespass' (in the most loose of context) is applicable in both countries...

In Australia, it's not illegal to speak out against the government (not 100% ever since the new sedition laws, but it is still present for the most part - there is no explicit freedom of speech in Australia).
Title: Re: BOS banned in china
Post by: joechan521 on January 17, 2008, 08:15:29 pm
yeah, some sites are blocked, but every1 use proxy to go on.