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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: lacoste on December 16, 2008, 04:59:34 pm
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Is it possible to achieve a 45 raw ss in any subjects when you are NOT ranked first in SAC's ?
If someone gets A+ in all their exams & just say its HIGH A+ but is not ranked first in the SAC's.
This will severely damage their results i suspect especially for English, a biased subject.
Your comments/feedback will be appreciated. :) ;)
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Yes it is possible, if you cane the exams.
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Will the GAT severely affect the study scores.
hmm...lets make a scenario... a teacher severely hates you.
eg. just say that a teacher gives you an overall of being ranked 5th or [15th for big schools.] you own the exams, absolutely own i tell you. and you completely kill the GAT. then does VCAA know and will not stuff you over.
note:a humanities subject. [sacs]teacher submits you to a grade of C+ which equals to being ranked 15th. but you're really an A+ student. therefore, vcaa see's your exam result that is A+. do they look at it really hard and say wow a that C/ranked 15th for sacs and an A+ for exams... how about we boost this students score from C+ to a B+ for GA1 & 2??
What stilled screwed much!?!
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yeah you'll need some smart people in your class too.
okay.
there are a couple of students that got many awards from the school. the awards are given on the basis of teacher opinion. now, do you reckon that the teacher will favour those students and give them the top ranking of sac's even though they perform slighter below a person with no awards that the teachers do not like?
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yeah you'll need some smart people in your class too.
okay.
there are a couple of students that got many awards from the school. the awards are given on the basis of teacher opinion. now, do you reckon that the teacher will favour those students and give them the top ranking of sac's even though they perform slighter below a person with no awards that the teachers do not like?
When you say the one who got awards perform slightly below a person with no awards, does that mean in terms of sac marks? Eh...it would be quite unfair to give them top ranking, if so. I highly doubt the teacher would do that...? If it does, then the actual exam performance should sort it out.
Is it possible to achieve a 45 raw ss in any subjects when you are NOT ranked first in SAC's ?
Yes. I got a 46 in further maths, and I believe I lost 3 marks in both exams, and was ranked about 4th/5th... The people above me were not necessarily "better," it just came down to careless mistakes in sacs that put me lower in rankings.
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Lol, I was literally at the bottom of SACs in both maths, but somehow, I got a 30 in methods and 26 in spec? Meh, go figure; I can't be bothered to anymore. :P
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Is it possible to achieve a 45 raw ss in any subjects when you are NOT ranked first in SAC's ?
If someone gets A+ in all their exams & just say its HIGH A+ but is not ranked first in the SAC's.
This will severely damage their results i suspect especially for English, a biased subject.
Your comments/feedback will be appreciated. :) ;)
i was ranked second in ALL my sacs and i got a 46 on my written GAT which may have helped me get a 49 in legal.
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I got 42 for IT:Apps and I actually got A for GA2 (which is Unit 4 SACS) so it is possible.
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great work in the further ss Red_x_Lily.
did you end up getting a better ss than your peers?
what were your GA's? must be all A+?
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I got 42 for IT:Apps and I actually got A for GA2 (which is Unit 4 SACS) so it is possible.
nice result glock.
but were you ranked first for sacs?
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I was ranked first for SACs in Italian... Averaging A's, B's and sometimes even A+'s... But obviously this is a scenario where SACs meant nothing as I only got a 23. :P
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I was ranked 7th in Media and I managed to get a 50!! I was getting B's and C+'s throughout the year for my SACs (except for my SAT - A+), and I got 57% on my trial exam, so when I saw 50 on my results page I was gobsmacked. Admittedly, though, my teacher did mark everyone extremely hard in all of our SACs.
Apparently I absolutely OWNED the exam, and because my mark was higher than the 1st ranked person's exam mark I shared his SAC marks, and because I got the highest exam mark in the state I ultimately got a 50. :)
I would have LOVED to see my Media teacher's face when she found out I got a 50... she would have NEVER expected me to get it hahaha!!
So if you're totally flunking your SACs throughout the year don't stress!! Just ace your exam and you still have a chance of getting an awesome mark :D
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Is it possible to achieve a 45 raw ss in any subjects when you are NOT ranked first in SAC's ?
If someone gets A+ in all their exams & just say its HIGH A+ but is not ranked first in the SAC's.
This will severely damage their results i suspect especially for English, a biased subject.
Your comments/feedback will be appreciated. :) ;)
i was ranked second in ALL my sacs and i got a 46 on my written GAT which may have helped me get a 49 in legal.
GAT results don't affect your study scores directly in the vast majority of cases.
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So if you're totally flunking your SACs throughout the year don't stress!! Just ace your exam and you still have a chance of getting an awesome mark :D
thanks for the heads up.
I would have LOVED to see my Media teacher's face when she found out I got a 50... she would have NEVER expected me to get it hahaha!!
i'd love to see the teachers' face too. well done on that 50 and your ENTER. i hope you can get into your course in RMIT. good lcuk and best wishes.
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thanks heaps lacoste :)
i'm guessing you're doing year 12 next year, so good luck! remember to study consistently throughout the year, otherwise you'll be a stresshead come exam time.. i learned the hard way haha.
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yep, im in year 12 next year. its going to be a big year and a fun one too!
thanks rargh!!
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yep, im in year 12 next year. its going to be a big year and a fun one too!
thanks rargh!!
Study hard mate! Don't end up like me. Trust me, it DOES NOT feel good :(
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I would advise against ignoring/flunking your SACs though.
Asides from examples where you deserve about 50 (rargh's post is accurate, it is possible to not be the best and get 50), your sac mark can and will bring you down. It is much better to be the other way around and be #1 in SACs and stuff up the exam slightly.
Example: I (am pretty sure I) was rank 1 in methods, I lost 5 marks over both exams and got 43
Someone else from my class was near the bottom of the sac rankings, lost 4 marks over both exams and got 40. He bought a statement of marks, I know a little summary of my scores due to VCAA originally giving me 42 for it, so these are true numbers not 'oh I think I lost 4 marks when I really lost 10'
Example 2: My GAs for chinese were B+, A, A+ (GA 1 and 2 are sacs). High exam result doesn't pull them up. I got 34 and I know of people who got A in the exam component that got 36.
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I would advise against ignoring/flunking your SACs though.
Asides from examples where you deserve about 50 (rargh's post is accurate, it is possible to not be the best and get 50), your sac mark can and will bring you down. It is much better to be the other way around and be #1 in SACs and stuff up the exam slightly.
Example: I (am pretty sure I) was rank 1 in methods, I lost 5 marks over both exams and got 43
Someone else from my class was near the bottom of the sac rankings, lost 4 marks over both exams and got 40. He bought a statement of marks, I know a little summary of my scores due to VCAA originally giving me 42 for it, so these are true numbers not 'oh I think I lost 4 marks when I really lost 10'
Example 2: My GAs for chinese were B+, A, A+ (GA 1 and 2 are sacs). High exam result doesn't pull them up. I got 34 and I know of people who got A in the exam component that got 36.
true. 50 requires either to be ranked first or have a v.strong cohort like mhs.
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if you have the ability to own the exam, in this case I believe, a math exam, then your life is a lot easier. Math is straight forward, there is one right answer, so if you have the aptitude to ace the exam, you can also own the SACs, no matter how much your teacher might hate you, you cannot be marked down much. [If this was in English or something where the marking is subjective, it will be a different case]
in any case, start now and hit the ground running :)
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great work in the further ss Red_x_Lily.
did you end up getting a better ss than your peers?
what were your GA's? must be all A+?
Thanks lacoste. :) And yes, all three GAs were A+.
I checked the papers today ( ;)) and saw that our school had one 50, one 49, one 45, and about three/four 42s. I know the two who got 49 and 50 were definitely ranked above me, so were a couple of the 42s.
I agree with what everyone above has said too - always take your sacs seriously.
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in my case, i should have been ranked 1 or 2 in sacs for Geography, but wasnt for some fucking gay reason..
i knew i'd get the highest exam mark in the class..
i ended up with a decent A+, and was ranked somewhere between 4-6... which is absolute BULL SHIT, and ended up with a 38
with shit as fuck SAC marks, due to my class sucking huge balls and failing at the exam.
so guys: make sure your ranked first and avoid disappointment.
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in my case, i should have been ranked 1 or 2 in sacs for Geography, but wasnt for some fucking gay reason..
i knew i'd get the highest exam mark in the class..
i ended up with a decent A+, and was ranked somewhere between 4-6... which is absolute BULL SHIT, and ended up with a 38
with shit as fuck SAC marks, due to my class sucking huge balls and failing at the exam.
so guys: make sure your ranked first and avoid disappointment.
Pretty sure I was ranked first in legal... Then the exam came... :P
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Well considering more than one person in the class can get 45 I don't see why only the first ranked would be able to...
Unless you go to a school like mine. :( (Who has like, 2% of students over 40 :S)
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Well considering more than one person in the class can get 45 I don't see why only the first ranked would be able to...
No one said that, if you had read further. If you are being ranked 15th.
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yep, im in year 12 next year. its going to be a big year and a fun one too!
thanks rargh!!
Study hard mate! Don't end up like me. Trust me, it DOES NOT feel good :(
Your ENTER is good Prav, I'd be happy with it! (it would get me into my course :))