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Archived Discussion => 2014 => Results Discussion => Victoria => 2008 => Topic started by: ham on December 16, 2008, 07:15:55 pm

Title: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: ham on December 16, 2008, 07:15:55 pm
i did well at the umat (61) and got an interview at bendigo for the rural access scheme at monash med. felt i interviewed very well and i thought i was to get an enter of 96-97.
well things went well result wise, but probably not as hoped.
95.30 and now i have no idea what my chances are.

if anyone can offer anything helpful it would really be appreciated.
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: BA22 on December 16, 2008, 07:22:14 pm
still a good chance, rural entry schemes always have lower enter requirements

I got a Umat of 54 last year, and an ENTER of 94.05 and i'm going into my second year of med at monash next year

Good luck
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: ham on December 16, 2008, 07:37:55 pm
did you get into the rural?
either way they must have thought talking to you in the interview was like talking to god.

congrats and fingers crossed i guess, all i can do.
need as many stories like that as possible
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: BA22 on December 16, 2008, 07:43:16 pm
Yej, i interviewed in bendigo

trust me, my score is not by any means the lowest, there are people in the course from rural areas with scores like 86 and 88 (i know people personally who got in with these scores)
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: vcestar on December 16, 2008, 07:50:42 pm
still a good chance, rural entry schemes always have lower enter requirements

I got a Umat of 54 last year, and an ENTER of 94.05 and i'm going into my second year of med at monash next year

Good luck

hmmm, i got 93.75 and 52 am i still a chance for the bonded spots at UNSW?

Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: BA22 on December 16, 2008, 08:41:13 pm
still a good chance, rural entry schemes always have lower enter requirements

I got a Umat of 54 last year, and an ENTER of 94.05 and i'm going into my second year of med at monash next year

Good luck

hmmm, i got 93.75 and 52 am i still a chance for the bonded spots at UNSW?



To be honest i'm really not sure, i applied at UNSW last year but didn't get in, but as an interstate applciant i didn't have my interview until after christmas, have you already had yours?
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: vcestar on December 16, 2008, 08:46:08 pm
still a good chance, rural entry schemes always have lower enter requirements

I got a Umat of 54 last year, and an ENTER of 94.05 and i'm going into my second year of med at monash next year

Good luck

hmmm, i got 93.75 and 52 am i still a chance for the bonded spots at UNSW?



To be honest i'm really not sure, i applied at UNSW last year but didn't get in, but as an interstate applciant i didn't have my interview until after christmas, have you already had yours?

No i am a late "on time" applicant so i might have an interview in late january....
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: shinny on December 16, 2008, 08:50:31 pm
still a good chance, rural entry schemes always have lower enter requirements

I got a Umat of 54 last year, and an ENTER of 94.05 and i'm going into my second year of med at monash next year

Good luck

hmmm, i got 93.75 and 52 am i still a chance for the bonded spots at UNSW?



To be honest i'm really not sure, i applied at UNSW last year but didn't get in, but as an interstate applciant i didn't have my interview until after christmas, have you already had yours?

No i am a late "on time" applicant so i might have an interview in late january....

All interstate applicants have theirs in January. I applied in time for first round offers and still got offered one in January. This is done because they know most people applying from interstate will prefer their homestate uni, so they'll see whether or not you stay in your homestate or not before interviewing you to save one another time.
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: vcestar on December 16, 2008, 08:52:48 pm
I still havent recieved an offer, my score isnt too great either...
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: shinny on December 16, 2008, 08:59:19 pm
Oh you meant you haven't even received an offer for an interview? Hmm. Do you know anyone else who applied the same round as you? I'm not too sure about how the system works...
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: vcestar on December 16, 2008, 09:00:27 pm
Oh you meant you haven't even received an offer for an interview? Hmm. Do you know anyone else who applied the same round as you? I'm not too sure about how the system works...

I applied late, so i dunno.
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: BA22 on December 16, 2008, 09:01:45 pm
Yeah, you're already at a disadvantage because the main interview round has been conducted, did you apply for University of Newcastle, they tend to have lower entry requirements as well
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: shinny on December 16, 2008, 09:02:46 pm
I don't think he's at a disadvantage. Mine is in January for the reasons stated above, and they said doing so will not disadvantage me in any way.
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: vcestar on December 16, 2008, 09:05:31 pm
I don't think he's at a disadvantage. Mine is in January for the reasons stated above, and they said doing so will not disadvantage me in any way.

Yeh i know i read tha site.

ANd BA22 i applied a day late for newcastle and therefore the head of the faculty bitch wont let me.
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: BA22 on December 16, 2008, 09:10:08 pm
yeh, they say that, but you are disadvantaged

The whole process favours home state applicants as they are the only ones who will get offers in the main round. The best of the interstaters will fight it our for the remainding spots in the late or final round.
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: ham on December 16, 2008, 09:36:20 pm
BA22,

were you originally from a rural area though?
i am from east melbourne and apparently they give preference to those from a rural background...

if so this decreases my chances by how much.....

give me any info you can. 
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: vcestar on December 16, 2008, 09:40:36 pm
yeh, they say that, but you are disadvantaged

The whole process favours home state applicants as they are the only ones who will get offers in the main round. The best of the interstaters will fight it our for the remainding spots in the late or final round.

F U C K
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: BA22 on December 16, 2008, 09:49:23 pm
BA22,

were you originally from a rural area though?
i am from east melbourne and apparently they give preference to those from a rural background...

if so this decreases my chances by how much.....

give me any info you can. 

Yeh i'm from a rural area originally, as in i've lived there for over 10 consecutive years proir to graduating, before tha i lived overseas in england

So i assume that means you had an interview for the ERC scheme

This scheme is generally understood to favour rural students but half of the kids in the ERC with me are from melbourne so i assume they must be taking the best students available
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: ham on December 16, 2008, 09:54:58 pm
well you filled me with a small amount of hope there for a second.

oh well.
fingers crossed i guess, and prepare for fail
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: BA22 on December 16, 2008, 09:58:31 pm
well you filled me with a small amount of hope there for a second.

oh well.
fingers crossed i guess, and prepare for fail

Not over till it's over

Med schools play a funny game of musical chairs through all rounds of offers as interstate kids get offers at monash then don't take them to stay at home, so you are definently still a chance, your UMAT score is solid and your ENTER is far from terrible

good luck
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: ham on December 17, 2008, 11:31:44 am
also,
now i am thinking 2nd preferences... what are the chances of getting into melbourne med post grad if you do biomed, i know that no one has gone through yet and it makes it hard to tell, but if my chances were not good then i would probably just do physio or something.

need helps...
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: monicak on December 17, 2008, 01:00:03 pm
I also didn't get a "first round" interview. Does anyone know when the offers for second round interviews come out? Also, which universities offer them and when do the interviews take place? I am going overseas and am afraid that I might miss my interview/offer (if I get one)... :(
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: BA22 on December 17, 2008, 01:14:06 pm
also,
now i am thinking 2nd preferences... what are the chances of getting into melbourne med post grad if you do biomed, i know that no one has gone through yet and it makes it hard to tell, but if my chances were not good then i would probably just do physio or something.

need helps...

Yeah, it's going to be fairly intense competition to get those spots, i believe the competition will be far higher than that of the monash undergraduate course. Most students in biomed at the moment plan to undertake postgraduate medicine and then there are applicants from other faculties and other institutions too

I also didn't get a "first round" interview. Does anyone know when the offers for second round interviews come out? Also, which universities offer them and when do the interviews take place? I am going overseas and am afraid that I might miss my interview/offer (if I get one)... :(

I'm not really sure when second round interview offers are made, but it would make sense that there were given after results come out, and that probably means they are waiting for the UAI to be released on (thursday?) before looking at which applicants to make offers to

It's likely that the late interview round will be around the same time (probably after) the main round offers, which puts it at the end of january, if you are offered one monica, you might have to see what you can do about getting to NSW as there is no real way of getting an alternative interview time
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: monicak on December 17, 2008, 01:24:35 pm
I'm not really sure when second round interview offers are made, but it would make sense that there were given after results come out, and that probably means they are waiting for the UAI to be released on (thursday?) before looking at which applicants to make offers to

It's likely that the late interview round will be around the same time (probably after) the main round offers, which puts it at the end of january, if you are offered one monica, you might have to see what you can do about getting to NSW as there is no real way of getting an alternative interview time

Thanks for the advice. Do you think I could ask the uni to email the offer, instead of sending it by mail? Our mail is being held by the post office..
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: higbvuyb on December 17, 2008, 02:01:50 pm
yeh, they say that, but you are disadvantaged

The whole process favours home state applicants as they are the only ones who will get offers in the main round. The best of the interstaters will fight it our for the remainding spots in the late or final round.
The email they send you when they offer you an interview says this:
"5. If the results of their interview, together with their academic and
  UMAT results, exceed the cutoff that was required for entry into UNSW
  Medicine in the main round of offers, they will be offered a place in
  the UNSW Medicine course in the late round of offers."

So, apparently, you don't actually need to 'fight for a place in the late round'. As long as you do as well as the NSW'ers in the main round, you get an offer.
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: Jeffree on December 17, 2008, 02:14:10 pm
it was a horror film
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: kurrymuncher on December 17, 2008, 02:16:15 pm
lol, Andy Samberg is awesome.
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: nickalaz on December 17, 2008, 02:19:29 pm
i saw my name in the herald sun
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: nickalaz on December 17, 2008, 02:19:46 pm
and i jizzed in my pants
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: BA22 on December 17, 2008, 02:49:50 pm
yeh, they say that, but you are disadvantaged

The whole process favours home state applicants as they are the only ones who will get offers in the main round. The best of the interstaters will fight it our for the remainding spots in the late or final round.
The email they send you when they offer you an interview says this:
"5. If the results of their interview, together with their academic and
  UMAT results, exceed the cutoff that was required for entry into UNSW
  Medicine in the main round of offers, they will be offered a place in
  the UNSW Medicine course in the late round of offers."

So, apparently, you don't actually need to 'fight for a place in the late round'. As long as you do as well as the NSW'ers in the main round, you get an offer.

Yeh, everyone fights for place anyway, its just a turn of phrase

But as an interstate student you don't get a shot at all available spots, just the ones remaining after main round offers


lol, Andy Samberg is awesome.

Hahaha, yeh, easily one of the best on SNL
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: vcestar on December 17, 2008, 02:56:29 pm
BA22, for those biomed + science students who are aiming for post grad medicine, i thought the competetion would only be internal (as in only ppl from melbourne uni can get in). This is because i heard melbourne uni doesnt recognise biomedical subjects from other institutions (like monash etc)???  Need clarification if i am wrong.
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: BA22 on December 17, 2008, 03:00:18 pm
I'm pretty sure that they'll let in graduates from other institutions who have done similarly appropriate subjects in their degree, because otherwise they lose out on getting the all the best potential applicants for their course
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: vcestar on December 17, 2008, 03:03:27 pm
I'm pretty sure that they'll let in graduates from other institutions who have done similarly appropriate subjects in their degree, because otherwise they lose out on getting the all the best potential applicants for their course

HMM, that also means that if i do science----> biomedical subjects that relate to medicine i can try out for other unis as well like monash or deakin or even interstate for post grad medicine.
Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: BA22 on December 17, 2008, 03:06:01 pm
Yeh definently!

Always apply to as many universities as possible, there is no penalty for doing so and if you're really keen to do medicine, so universities like University of Newcastle will accept undergraduate transfers

Also just confirming what i said before

Quote from: http://www.medicine.unimelb.edu.au/melbourne_model/
Students from other degrees or universities will need to ensure that they include the prerequisite subjects in their degree. Please contact us if you need further advice on this.

Title: Re: need a bit of advice med wise
Post by: vcestar on December 17, 2008, 03:25:38 pm
Yeh definently!

Always apply to as many universities as possible, there is no penalty for doing so and if you're really keen to do medicine, so universities like University of Newcastle will accept undergraduate transfers

Also just confirming what i said before

Quote from: http://www.medicine.unimelb.edu.au/melbourne_model/
Students from other degrees or universities will need to ensure that they include the prerequisite subjects in their degree. Please contact us if you need further advice on this.




You have cleared up a lot of things!! Thanks heaps!!!