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General Discussion => General Discussion Boards => Lifestyle and Entertainment => Topic started by: bturville on February 21, 2008, 07:45:05 pm
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How many hours did you guys do on your learners before going for your p's?
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I havn't got my P's yet (october) but i have been on my L's for just over a year and have only done 40 hours. I dont know how anyone can clock up the 120 hours that we are supposedly supposed to do!!!
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I did 122 hours before I got my P's (including my driving test, lol). I got that many because I drove basically everywhere, if we were going to visit someone's house or going to school in the morning or going shopping or on holidays or whatever, I drove. I would have gotten more but around exam time I didn't go as many places and thus did not drive as much.
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I drive whenever I'm in the car, the only problem is thats usually only once a week. I reckon i will be lucky to get to 80 by the time i go for my P's! lol.
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Well, as long as you're on the old system, then that's not a problem! One of my friends got her Ps after only about 40 hours of driving.
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I probably did a total of about 70-75 hours.
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I did 50-55 hours, with most of them in a manual car. You really only need as much as it takes for u to be confident. However, with the ludicrous mandatory 120 hour rule now, it will take the majority of learners quite a long time to get the hours in order to go for their Ps, since not many people have access to a car on a regular basis, due their parents/relatives not having the time to be alongside.
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Dammit, I'm on the new system with the Driving Log!
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Maybe you should schedule it in? If you hold your Ls for a little over two years you could make the time by driving an hour a week, which isn't too bad, it's about 8 minutes a day.
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I probably did about 20-40 hours all-up, so I was a pretty shithouse driver when I got my Ps. Even then, I only lost one point (for not turning on my windscreen wipers soon enough), so the system is fairly accommodating even for terrible drivers - thus the situation that we have on our roads today. Since getting my Ps, I've done a smidgen under 2,600km in a couple of months which is anywhere between another 25-50 hours so I'm only marginally better.
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I'm sitting my Ps in a fortnight. I've logged 65 hours according to the scratchy thingy on the fridge, but I've probably done more. I'm not good with remembering to record stuff like this...
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Is it true that if you get your liscence before the 1st of June the new rules do not apply to you? I thought that they would effect every P plate driver? But people have told me that they will not apply to people who get their liscence before the new laws?
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Is it true that if you get your liscence before the 1st of June the new rules do not apply to you? I thought that they would effect every P plate driver? But people have told me that they will not apply to people who get their liscence before the new laws?
Yeah if you get your Ps before July 1 you are on the old system, without the stupid laws
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Thats so good!!!! I thought it applied to everyone...Not me!! If i pass my liscence in one week lol..
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Good luck ^_^
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i have only done 25 hours and i have the 120 hour rule. sooo it looks like i wont be going for my p's when i turn 18 in October anymore... lol. whats worse is this year i dont even really have time to drive. anyone who doesn't have the new rules is so lucky, i cop all the rules!!
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Good luck ^_^
Thank you!!!!
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yay i go for my license on may 1st. Daniel99 are u doing it in a manual or auto
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My friends from E-hills are having to travel as far as Bundoora and Sunshine to get their P's before the new laws.
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thats pretty full on but it would be worth it if they get them
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The problem my bestie has found is that all the driving skools are booked out as well (like, except for during skool hours, but she's in yr 12 this yr). She's asked if I'll sit in as an 'instructor' for a couple of driving lessons with her mum, just so she can get used to the driving routes and the sorts of things they'll ask her to do.
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Woo!! got my licence yesterday. The test was pretty easy. About 15 minutes, and i only lost a few marks for not looking in my rear vision mirror enough. Its going to suck once the graduated system comes in though. Apparently tests will take at least 45 minutes.
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Woo!! got my licence yesterday. The test was pretty easy. About 15 minutes, and i only lost a few marks for not looking in my rear vision mirror enough. Its going to suck once the graduated system comes in though. Apparently tests will take at least 45 minutes.
well done i got mine on thursday, its so good. i lost a mark for mirrors and at the start where the tester said turn right and i put my left indicator on and nearly turned left but the tetser said again RIGHT so i was able to sort of fix that up. ooops
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I got my Ps a couple weeks ago, didn't lose any marks (although I suck(ed) as a driver). :D
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I got my Ps a couple weeks ago, didn't lose any marks (although I suck(ed) as a driver). :D
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I got mine today :D. Didn't lose any marks :).
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I got mine today :D. Didn't lose any marks :).
I lost quite a few, mainly for not using my rear vision mirror enough. I guess nerves got the better of me. But i passed, so im happy. I was also extremely lucky i got a 3 point turn, because im not very good at the other low speed manoeuvres
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i had the best low speed manoeuvre point to point reverese, in my view i have to say it's by far the easiest so i was stoked when i had to do that.
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Good luck ^_^
I got my liscnece the other week!!!!!
Thank you!!!!
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i had the best low speed manoeuvre point to point reverese, in my view i have to say it's by far the easiest so i was stoked when i had to do that.
I had it easier, since I didn't even have to do a slow speed manoeuvre in the normal sense. I just parallel parked (nose first) at VicRoads after my test was complete.
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i had the best low speed manoeuvre point to point reverese, in my view i have to say it's by far the easiest so i was stoked when i had to do that.
I had it easier, since I didn't even have to do a slow speed manoeuvre in the normal sense. I just parallel parked (nose first) at VicRoads after my test was complete.
LOL i had that one aswell, but I failed 2/3 of it. I thought that i had failed but i still passed!!!
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LOL i had that one aswell, but I failed 2/3 of it. I thought that i had failed but i still passed!!!
I thought I had failed, since we were only on the road for about 5 minutes and without a slow speed manoeuvre, I was expecting the worst.
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Are they selling green P plates at shops yet?
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Are they selling green P plates at shops yet?
Nah I don't think so - probablly late June
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Are they selling green P plates at shops yet?
Nah I don't think so - probablly late June
I hope stores dont think "were selling something that a lot of people MUST buy within the next few weeks" and charge something ridiculous for them (e.g. $15)
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That shouldn't happen. You don't need any certification or registration to sell a P plate on your stores, so there are strong competitive forces that would bring down the prices.
Also, demand may not necessarily be higher. It wouldn't make sense to believe there will be a surge of green P applicants. If anything, there will be a dip, because everyone is crowding to register before green Ps. The only reason why demand may be higher is because there is currently no "second-hand" market for the green P plates. I don't think that is a major contributor.
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And I have a question..
The green p plate thing only applies to people under 21 right??
So if you over 21 and get your p's then the new laws don't applY???
Im not sure.....
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green plates only apply to those who get their license after 1 July this year
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I think you misunderstood her question. Her point was: the restriction is that you can only hold 1 passenger aged 16-21. Does this restriction still hold if you get your green P's and you are in excess of 21? (i.e.: it sounds pretty ridiculous to block a 50 year old fresh driver from driving some young blokes around)
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I got mine today :D. Didn't lose any marks :).
I lost quite a few, mainly for not using my rear vision mirror enough. I guess nerves got the better of me. But i passed, so im happy. I was also extremely lucky i got a 3 point turn, because im not very good at the other low speed manoeuvres
Our tests are ridiculously easy compared to others.
My cousins from Germany are currently over, and the eldest one was recalling her drive test that she recently passed. They have to do TWO tests, one day and one night, which is about an hour's length.
They also have to drive on the Autobahn (that crazy freeway with no speed limits).
I think we have it easy here..
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Also,
I have red P plates now, will I need a green plates?
Yes. You will have to replace the red P plate with green ones from 1 July 2008.
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Or they could've made P1 = Green and P2 = Red so that existing P platers don't have to go out and buy NEW plates.
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Also,
I have red P plates now, will I need a green plates?
Yes. You will have to replace the red P plate with green ones from 1 July 2008.
Agree. Its gonna be an inconvenience for all of us current P platers to buy the green plates.
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Or they could've made P1 = Green and P2 = Red so that existing P platers don't have to go out and buy NEW plates.
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Do we have to all go out and buy new P-plates...? I hadn't figured out whether we had to or not...
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I got mine today :D. Didn't lose any marks :).
I lost quite a few, mainly for not using my rear vision mirror enough. I guess nerves got the better of me. But i passed, so im happy. I was also extremely lucky i got a 3 point turn, because im not very good at the other low speed manoeuvres
Our tests are ridiculously easy compared to others.
My cousins from Germany are currently over, and the eldest one was recalling her drive test that she recently passed. They have to do TWO tests, one day and one night, which is about an hour's length.
They also have to drive on the Autobahn (that crazy freeway with no speed limits).
I think we have it easy here..
That's nothing. At Turkey, you have the driving test + they test you on all the engine parts (i.e motor test), you've gotta know everything inside out.
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Do we have to all go out and buy new P-plates...? I hadn't figured out whether we had to or not...
Yes we do :(
/me prepares to give Fyrefly a hug.
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Do we have to all go out and buy new P-plates...? I hadn't figured out whether we had to or not...
Yes we (we = EVERY current P-plater) do, which is why i think demand for green p plates (the item, not the licence) will be quite high
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Do we have to all go out and buy new P-plates...? I hadn't figured out whether we had to or not...
Yes we (we = EVERY current P-plater) do, which is why i think demand for green p plates (the item, not the licence) will be quite high
Do we have to all go out and buy new P-plates...? I hadn't figured out whether we had to or not...
Yes we do :(
/me prepares to give Fyrefly a hug.
Are you trying to increase your post count? :P
Oh, 700 get
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Do we have to all go out and buy new P-plates...? I hadn't figured out whether we had to or not...
Yes we (we = EVERY current P-plater) do, which is why i think demand for green p plates (the item, not the licence) will be quite high
Mmm.. I must have missed that. You're right then. There will be an increase in demand, but the prices will not be unjustified (not extortion from stores or anything - just simply supply and demand). The licensing (government policy) itself may be.
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Obtained from Graduated Licensing System website ( http://gls.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/prelearner/key_changes/going-green-for-red-p-plate-drivers.html ):
"GOING GREEN FOR RED P PLATE DRIVERS
Victoria's new graduated licensing system is introducing new driver licensing rules. These new rules mean that a probationary driver will have to display either a red or green P plate.
If you obtained your probationary licence before 1 July 2008, you will have to change your P plate from red to green.
A green P plate driver has fewer restrictions such as how many passengers they can carry.
Attach your green P plates so they are clearly visible on your vehicle, and make sure you do not use them before 1 July 2008."
And no Jo, I make useful posts ...mostly :P ;)
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In my random googling (because I don't have to go to work for another hour yet...) I've found a link that may answer a lot of people's questions:
http://gls.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/component/option,com_fastfacts/Itemid,140/
You fill in your own circumstances and it explains how the new rules affect you personally.
"Thanks for your 'Fast Facts' inquiry. As you are 18 - 21 years old and you obtained your probationary licence after 1 July 2007 but before 1 July 2008, then the following rules apply to you:
* You must stay on your probationary licence for at least three years.
* If you were tested in a car with automatic transmission, then you can only drive this type of car.
* You must comply with restrictions on driving high powered vehicles. Click here for the restrictions that apply to you.
* You must have a zero blood alcohol concentration (BAC) whenever you drive
* If you are convicted of a drink driving offence involving a BAC of .07 or higher, you must have an alcohol interlock fitted to your car for a minimum of six months when you return to driving.
* You must display your red P plates on the front and back of any car you drive.
* From 1 July 2008, you must display a green P plate, not a red one.
* You must carry your probationary licence with you whenever you drive.
* If you incur five or more demerit points in 12 months, or 12 or more in three years, your probationary licence may be suspended.
After at least three years on your probationary licence, you will be eligible to obtain a full driver licence."
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Are you trying to increase your post count? :P
haha no i was posting to clarify why i thought demand for green plates would rise.i probably should have quoted your post instead
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Are you trying to increase your post count? :P
haha no i was posting to clarify why i thought demand for green plates would rise.i probably should have quoted your post instead
Wait... wait... Excal's "Are you trying to increase your post count?" comment was directed at you, not me? Now I am confused... but... *this is taking all my thinking power in my tired state* ...so Excal wasn't making fun of me trying to increase my post count when I don't care about it? I mean, my I-don't-careness (again, tired state, don't expect me to be literate or make total sense right now) is pretty obvious all factors considered. You know what I don't get... why does anyone care about what their post count is anyway? Anyway... if anyone was trying to get their post count up, it was you Jo!! Don't lie... you wanted 700 posts, I know the truth!!
I researched and ended up answering my own question anyway, which I posted ...albeit after you both answered my question (without evidence... which brendan would slaughter you for :P).
You know what? I know there's no point in posting this incoherent piece of trash, but I figure it gives a useful insight into the effects of sleep deprivation ...and I'm sure Mao will have a good laugh when he floats in here.
edit: Yes, I know it's only 8pm.
Back on topic... if there ever was a topic... oh yeah, those green thingys.
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Are you trying to increase your post count? :P
haha no i was posting to clarify why i thought demand for green plates would rise.i probably should have quoted your post instead
Wait... wait... Excal's "Are you trying to increase your post count?" comment was directed at you, not me? Now I am confused... but... *this is taking all my thinking power in my tired state* ...so Excal wasn't making fun of me trying to increase my post count when I don't care about it? I mean, my I-don't-careness (again, tired state, don't expect me to be literate or make total sense right now) is pretty obvious all factors considered. You know what I don't get... why does anyone care about what their post count is anyway? Anyway... if anyone was trying to get their post count up, it was you Jo!! Don't lie... you wanted 700 posts, I know the truth!!
I researched and ended up answering my own question anyway, which I posted ...albeit after you both answered my question (without evidence... which brendan would slaughter you for :P).
You know what? I know there's no point in posting this incoherent piece of trash, but I figure it gives a useful insight into the effects of sleep deprivation ...and I'm sure Mao will have a good laugh when he floats in here.
edit: Yes, I know it's only 8pm.
Back on topic... if there ever was a topic... oh yeah, those green thingys.
hahaha~!
yep :P
and she says i'm *MORE* crazy? ;D
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VicRoads will mail a pair of new green P plates to all probationary licence holders in Victoria who are currently on red P plates. There is no charge for these green P plates.
~ http://gls.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/index.php?option=com_easyfaq&task=cat&catid=27&Itemid=126
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Wait... wait... Excal's "Are you trying to increase your post count?" comment was directed at you, not me? Now I am confused... but... *this is taking all my thinking power in my tired state* ...so Excal wasn't making fun of me trying to increase my post count when I don't care about it?
I think so, because i answered a question that had already been answered hours earlier. And dont worry, my brain exploded too
VicRoads will mail a pair of new green P plates to all probationary licence holders in Victoria who are currently on red P plates. There is no charge for these green P plates.
~ http://gls.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/index.php?option=com_easyfaq&task=cat&catid=27&Itemid=126
Finally something good about this new system. Glad to hear that my problem/query is solved.
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Wasted taxpayer's money.
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Wasted taxpayer's money.
Considering how much it costs to get a licence ($100+), getting P-plates from the government isnt that much of a freebie
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Has anyone recieved the Green Ps yet?
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I sure haven't. Green P's will be so much cooler than red I feel.
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No, not yet. I imagine we'll be getting them soon though.
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Has anyone recieved the Green Ps yet?
Just found this on a victorian government website:
A green P package, including a pair of green P plates and information explaining these changes is now being mailed to the 250,000 probationary licence holders in Victoria.
If a probationary driver, motorcyclist or scooter rider has not received their free green P plates by 20 June, they should contact their local VicRoads Customer Service Centre.
Its the 9th today, so i'd expect most will arrive this week
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Has anyone recieved the Green Ps yet?
Just found this on a victorian government website:
A green P package, including a pair of green P plates and information explaining these changes is now being mailed to the 250,000 probationary licence holders in Victoria.
If a probationary driver, motorcyclist or scooter rider has not received their free green P plates by 20 June, they should contact their local VicRoads Customer Service Centre.
Its the 9th today, so i'd expect most will arrive this week
:'( tax-payers... :(
why cant they just introduce Green plates for new ones?
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why cant they just introduce Green plates for new ones?
Im not sure if you've noticed, but inconvenience is the top priority for the new system
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why cant they just introduce Green plates for new ones?
Im not sure if you've noticed, but inconvenience is the top priority for the new system
ahh, touche'
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I worked out why they made P2 green and P1 red. I was talking to my uncle today (who lives in Qld, and is down in Vic @ mo), and they've modeled it off the Queensland licensing system.
There are a few differences between the licensing conditions, but I think the similarities outnumber the discrepancies. You can all have a look yourselves if you'd like:
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home/Licensing/Driver_licence/Getting_a_licence/Car/Provisional_licence/
They did it the way they did so the colours coincided, rather than conflicted, with the licensing system of another state.
The change-over with issuing a whole bunch of green P-plates may be annoying now, but in the long run it seems to make more sense.
Edit: copied wrong link ::) ...all better now :)
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I had a look at the NSW Probationary system and noticed they have a passenger restriction for P1 drivers too. However, it only applies from 11PM to 5AM. I think thats a much better idea than the one vicroads is bringing in. At least things like carpooling to school/work and road trips are still an option.
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Also, a sneak peek at the new green Ps:
[IMG]http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3699/greenpwith3driverssmallhc5.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3699/greenpwith3driverssmallhc5.cd54db815b.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6016/girlwithgreenpsmallrb9.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6016/girlwithgreenpsmallrb9.58249c5bee.jpg[/img]
they look so...... green
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I had a look at the NSW Probationary system and noticed they have a passenger restriction for P1 drivers too. However, it only applies from 11PM to 5AM. I think thats a much better idea than the one vicroads is bringing in. At least things like carpooling to school/work and road trips are still an option.
I totally agree.... the government is all pushing for us all to be greener (scuse the pun) without them having to spend money to do it, yet now they don't want young people car-pooling to uni/school/work to save petrol to help the environment. I think NSW has a good thing going where the restriction applies only between 11pm and 5am, and I think our government should have put a bit more consideration into this.
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I had a look at the NSW Probationary system and noticed they have a passenger restriction for P1 drivers too. However, it only applies from 11PM to 5AM. I think thats a much better idea than the one vicroads is bringing in. At least things like carpooling to school/work and road trips are still an option.
I totally agree.... the government is all pushing for us all to be greener (scuse the pun) without them having to spend money to do it, yet now they don't want young people car-pooling to uni/school/work to save petrol to help the environment. I think NSW has a good thing going where the restriction applies only between 11pm and 5am, and I think our government should have put a bit more consideration into this.
I thought the restriction is only after-hours? [at night? from about 5?]
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I had a look at the NSW Probationary system and noticed they have a passenger restriction for P1 drivers too. However, it only applies from 11PM to 5AM. I think thats a much better idea than the one vicroads is bringing in. At least things like carpooling to school/work and road trips are still an option.
EDIT:
Also, a sneak peek at the new green Ps:
[IMG]http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3699/greenpwith3driverssmallhc5.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3699/greenpwith3driverssmallhc5.cd54db815b.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6016/girlwithgreenpsmallrb9.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6016/girlwithgreenpsmallrb9.58249c5bee.jpg[/img]
they look so...... green
I'm doomed, going to be stuck on that system!! (I won't be 18 until September 2009!)
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I had a look at the NSW Probationary system and noticed they have a passenger restriction for P1 drivers too. However, it only applies from 11PM to 5AM. I think thats a much better idea than the one vicroads is bringing in. At least things like carpooling to school/work and road trips are still an option.
I totally agree.... the government is all pushing for us all to be greener (scuse the pun) without them having to spend money to do it, yet now they don't want young people car-pooling to uni/school/work to save petrol to help the environment. I think NSW has a good thing going where the restriction applies only between 11pm and 5am, and I think our government should have put a bit more consideration into this.
I thought the restriction is only after-hours? [at night? from about 5?]
Nope... that would've been smarter tho, hey?
It doesn't seem to matter what time of day, the restriction is simply:
"P1 driver can only carry one passenger aged between 16 and 21."
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Wow they look like theyre having so much fun there with there green p's lol
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Wow they look like theyre having so much fun there with there green p's lol
Oh yeah, coz green just goes sooo well with their white car, lol.
My car is white too... ::)
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Wow they look like theyre having so much fun there with there green p's lol
Oh yeah, coz green just goes sooo well with their white car, lol.
My car is white too... ::)
you can drive me around :D you dont have the restrictions! :P
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I just received mine in the mail today..lol
In more interesting news, my Ubuntu 8.04 CDs arrived as well.
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Ubuntu sucks.
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That chick with her mouth open is freaking me out.
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That chick with her mouth open is freaking me out.
It's my girlfriend, I thinks shes attractice, but obviously some people think otherwise.
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That chick with her mouth open is freaking me out.
reckon, shes scaring me.
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I got my green Ps today and i was intrigued by the accompanying letter explaining how to dispose of my old red P-plates. Its clear that the government is making a poor attempt to connect with the youth by suggesting such things as "make it into a paper plane." But in the end, their still the government, so it says "throw it to your brother" rather than "throw it AT your brother" like most people would.
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lol yeah that green p's letter is funny... one was like blend the p plates into a smoothie
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I got my green Ps today and i was intrigued by the accompanying letter explaining how to dispose of my old red P-plates. Its clear that the government is making a poor attempt to connect with the youth by suggesting such things as "make it into a paper plane." But in the end, their still the government, so it says "throw it to your brother" rather than "throw it AT your brother" like most people would.
Lol, r u serious?? I can't wait 2 get my letter now, sounds like a cracker.
"No, dear younger brother, I was throwing this plastic, red paper plane TO your left nostril, not AT your left nostril" :angel:
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I got mine today. :D I'm soooo going to do the smoothie thing and then sue vicroads if it fucks up my blender.
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I had to look twice to see that was a chick.
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Will it Blend?
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I had to look twice to see that was a chick.
It's definitely a chick, isn't it?
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I got my green Ps as well.
Hmm... "Failure to display the correct P plates from July 1 2008 may result in incurring three demerit points."
Seems pretty low to hit someone with that simply because they forget to switch the plates over...
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Just got mine today, along with the humorous letter. It's actually impossible to make P plates into a paper plane.
Will it Blend?
That is the question......
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GOT MY GREEN P's TODAY!!!!! lol not that exciting
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Just got mine today, along with the humorous letter. It's actually impossible to make P plates into a paper plane.
Will it Blend?
That is the question......
Any1 care 2 try it? *sneaky eyes*
U no.. the government could have actually been intuitive and put a big box in every VicRoads branch for us to chuck our old red P-plates in2. They could've then RECYCLED these P-plates by giving sets to the new red P-platers (July 1 2008 onwards), rather than encouraging us to litter our rivers with 'p-plate sail boats'. I'm sure a handful of supermarkets would've been happy to help by not crushing an odd 10 boxes each. The wonders of using free boxes compared to the cost of printing a whole bunch of coloured pictures... ::)
Urgh... I usually don't care enuf 2 complain, but it just seems so dumb...
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Will it Blend?
THATS MY FAVOURITE SHOW !!
will it blend...... brendan nelson?
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Mao... take it easy on the new guy, ok...?
*Checks that the arsenal is still hidden from Mao*
U no... I saw red P-plates 4 the 1st time 2day since June 30.
I also mounted the gutter on the way 2 uni, bcoz I am so brilliant like that and cannot parallel park 4 shit >.>
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Mao... take it easy on the new guy, ok...?
*Checks that the arsenal is still hidden from Mao*
U no... I saw red P-plates 4 the 1st time 2day since June 30.
I also mounted the gutter on the way 2 uni, bcoz I am so brilliant like that and cannot parallel park 4 shit >.>
haha, for the record, I don't bite. [much]
I am still yet to open my eyes enough to see a red p-plate in action
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I am still yet to open my eyes enough to see a red p-plate in action
Me neither, but hopefully come August 20th I'll have one.
And Fyrefly, I suck at parallel parking too. :(
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My godsister told me that under the new system only 6 in every 40 testers pass. =|
Not sure how true that is but if it is ... WTF
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Yeah, i've heard 80% are failing..
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hell yeh.. got mine today!
It's really not that much harder (I failed on old test before), just a lot more rigorous.
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It's really not that much harder (I failed on old test before), just a lot more rigorous.
So is it essentially the same as the old test except you drive for longer?
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Yep. It's broken into 2 stages.
1st stage is street driving (40-60kmh zones) and you just do the basics, turn left/right merge left/right and your low speed maneuver.
2nd stage is mainly 60-80kmh zones with heavier traffic, but essentially you just do the same thing (merging into lanes/turning/roundabouts/etc..)
Read this, it has the assessment criteria;
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/3111267D-48FA-4D01-928F-8DA70173B936/0/DIDriveTestInformationBook11v2.pdf
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hell yeh.. got mine today!
It's really not that much harder (I failed on old test before), just a lot more rigorous.
what colour is the top stripe of the new license? (prior to july it was red)
and are there any differences int he licenses, as in the looks.. or does the condition say P1?
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I was reading that, only 3 point turn and parallel park?
Those are the two easiest ones :D <333
Edit: I can't practise at all at the moment though, I need to buy a car and I have no idea how to. I haven't driven for well over a year
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out of the 6 of my friends who have gone for their Ps under the new system only one of them has passed...and just an interesting fact - it was a girl whereas the ones who failed were guys hahaha.
thankfully, I got mine a week before the new system came in :D
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My instructor said today that the pass rate is around 53%.
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what colour is the top stripe of the new license? (prior to july it was red)
and are there any differences int he licenses, as in the looks.. or does the condition say P1?
It's red and just says 'Probationary License' but under my date of birth it has 'P1 END DATE: 25-07-2009'.
So I guess that's the only difference.
And the test really was not that hard.
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Lol, I couldn't get my P's even if I tried. I am not as skilled as a driver as I would like to be :(. I am probably in the remaining 47% who fail on each occasion (it took me 3 tries just to get my L's...).
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Lol, I couldn't get my P's even if I tried. I am not as skilled as a driver as I would like to be :(. I am probably in the remaining 47% who fail on each occasion (it took me 3 tries just to get my L's...).
the result of your L's (or attempts) don't exactly reflect how well you drive... its just a stupid test that asks things that no one will ever remember (like all tests/exams)
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it's almost as bad as the hazard perception test.
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Lol, I couldn't get my P's even if I tried. I am not as skilled as a driver as I would like to be :(. I am probably in the remaining 47% who fail on each occasion (it took me 3 tries just to get my L's...).
the result of your L's (or attempts) don't exactly reflect how well you drive... its just a stupid test that asks things that no one will ever remember (like all tests/exams)
Lol what do you mean! It tests you understanding of the theory behind road rules!!!
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Some of the stuff on the Ls test was stupid eg "When you are on your Ps, what special rules do you have" (obviously more specific then that) and I'm like I DONT CARE THATS 2+ YEARS AWAY.
I think my score was pass mark + 1 :P (as in 1 question, not 1%)
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I got 100% on L's :)
Gun
But Ill probz fail my P's
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lol the stuff on the Ls test is pretty important, if you disobey any road rules (which is what most of the Ls test is on) during your Ps test you fail immediately.
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Some of the stuff on the Ls test was stupid eg "When you are on your Ps, what special rules do you have" (obviously more specific then that) and I'm like I DONT CARE THATS 2+ YEARS AWAY.
I think my score was pass mark + 1 :P (as in 1 question, not 1%)
On the practice test one of the questions had a picture of a red light and said "what do you do here"
I got it wrong because I thought it was a trick question
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On the practice test one of the questions had a picture of a red light and said "what do you do here"
Im almost certain that there is another question except with a picture of a stop sign
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MY birthday was on the 1st july .
SO i had to go for my RED p's on my bday.
I PASSED thank GOD. not too much harder. just a bit longer thats all.
was crap coz some friends got theirs the week before and could have as many passengers
but on a good note
ill be the first to get OFF their red p's,
i can blame my mum for this one
couldnt push me out soon enough
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MY birthday was on the 1st july .
SO i had to go for my RED p's on my bday.
I PASSED thank GOD. not too much harder. just a bit longer thats all.
My test is in exactly one week :-\
And to think I could've been on the old system (was 18 on June 16th).
But I was too unprepared back then and I guess the new system's not so bad.
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MY birthday was on the 1st july .
SO i had to go for my RED p's on my bday.
I PASSED thank GOD. not too much harder. just a bit longer thats all.
My test is in exactly one week :-\
And to think I could've been on the old system (was 18 on June 16th).
But I was too unprepared back then and I guess the new system's not so bad.
Let us know how u go memka!
I'm sure u'll do fine tho ^_^
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MY birthday was on the 1st july .
SO i had to go for my RED p's on my bday.
I PASSED thank GOD. not too much harder. just a bit longer thats all.
My test is in exactly one week :-\
And to think I could've been on the old system (was 18 on June 16th).
But I was too unprepared back then and I guess the new system's not so bad.
I could tell you the P-plate tales of Glockmeister, but that's his story to tell.
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Let us know how u go memka!
I'm sure u'll do fine tho ^_^
I passed :D
It was pretty good. I didn't do anything too bad except not use my mirrors enough and doing head checks when moving into a turning lane.
I only had to do a 3 point turn, not parallel park! Test seemed to go on forever though, easily 30 mins plus.
I went for my first solo drive this morning - 5 mins to the train station lol.
It was weird being alone but I'm sure I'll get use to it pretty quickly. :)
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Woooo!!!
Go Memka ^_^
And yeah, dw bout the 'weird being alone' feeling, lots of my friends commented they felt that way 2.
I didn't personally, but that's coz my Dad slept most of the time anyway :-X
Memka is a P-plater now!! XD XD
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MY birthday was on the 1st july .
SO i had to go for my RED p's on my bday.
I PASSED thank GOD. not too much harder. just a bit longer thats all.
My test is in exactly one week :-\
And to think I could've been on the old system (was 18 on June 16th).
But I was too unprepared back then and I guess the new system's not so bad.
I could tell you the P-plate tales of Glockmeister, but that's his story to tell.
There's a big story indeed, but the most important thing is that I am now a P-Plater.
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As of today I now am able to practise driving on Ls :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
you guys have no idea how happy I am. I can't wait.
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Awesome! So did you get ur permit today or finally convince someone to teach u?
Either way congrats. :)
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Nah I have had learners permit since august 2005
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As of today I now am able to practise driving on Ls :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
you guys have no idea how happy I am. I can't wait.
Sweeeet.
Go Mel!
Who's teaching u?
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As of today I now am able to practise driving on Ls :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
you guys have no idea how happy I am. I can't wait.
Sweeeet.
Go Mel!
Who's teaching u?
mum
although this morning we couldn't get it to go but friend from work who lives around the corner's dad can. so it probably needs more fiddling with :P hopefully. <3<3<3
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Nah I have had learners permit since august 2005
I've had mine since november 2005 (1 month before I turned 18).
Never driven before in my life :)
I might try and get my Ps this summer holidays... but I always say that, and can never be bothered.
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I've had mine since one month after I turned 16 :)
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both of you don't have your Ps?
what the hell!!
how can you not be bothered :S
I was so eager to get mine...being able to go anywhere whenever you want is ace =]
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Meh, I live at a college on campus, so there's no real need to drive anywhere. And if I do need to get somewhere, then I just get one of my friends to drive me. It's pretty simple.
Plus when I'm back in Melbourne, I live about 5 mins walk from a train station, so I just use public transport to get around.
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I am eager to get mine, I'm sorry if unlike you some of us don't have the opporunity to learn.
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I am eager to get mine, I'm sorry if unlike you some of us don't have the opporunity to learn.
Same, Mel, I am very eager to get my Ps but I have no one here whom I can practice with!
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what the hell lmfao, whats wrong with you.
that part of my post was obviously directed to humphdogg
I might try and get my Ps this summer holidays... but I always say that, and can never be bothered.
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haven't driven a manual since my test. would love to though. expect it costs $$$ to hire one for a time, or get insured to drive someone else's
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Fuck you VicRoads and your monopoly on the licensing industry and your inefficient service. Your fucken bastards making me wait 3 months to get my P's. Kunts. I hope you die.
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Ok, thank-god I've gotten a better date than I was originally told!
Was going to have to do it on 30th of JANUARY 2009!!! but somehow I got a test on December the 8th which was then I wanted my test :smitten:
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Costa speaks the language of economics.
English is now foreign 2 him.
My brain has been moulded 2 think in economics, but I can still manage 2 speak English :P
Glad u've organised a better date.
The backlog was WAY worse jst b4 the new P-plate laws kicked in.
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:D Eco ftw!
I can't believe a government department could be so inefficiently managed. (Well, actually I can. It IS a government department after all or subordinate authority, I can't actually remember what it falls under.)
Furthermore, I can't understand why they wouldn't increase the number of testers. Not only would it benefit the customers but their hip pocket as well! More customers per month= more revenue. It would be fair to assume that for every test done, there would be a profit, so fucken up your production, reap the benefits and provide an efficient service to your customers who have no choice but to deal with you, or open up the industry to competitors so you'll be forced to lower your prices, increase your efficiency and provide a better fucken service. Kunts.
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Furthermore, I can't understand why they wouldn't increase the number of testers. Not only would it benefit the customers but their hip pocket as well! More customers per month= more revenue. It would be fair to assume that for every test done, there would be a profit, so fucken up your production, reap the benefits and provide an efficient service to your customers who have no choice but to deal with you, or open up the industry to competitors so you'll be forced to lower your prices, increase your efficiency and provide a better fucken service. Kunts.
Wouldn't benefit their hip pocket more, that's the point of a monopolist.
Tis market failure @ its finest.
Anywayz, off-topic.