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Title: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: costargh on December 21, 2008, 03:57:06 pm
Who's doing AMFAS in 2009?

Mad text to write on in the exam!
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: methodsboy on December 21, 2008, 04:03:59 pm
hey
i am !
yer i've read about 70% of it. At the start i was like "wtf, how am going to understand this?"
its a good play, im enjoying it.
In year 12, does the teacher go through the novels?
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: Odette. on December 21, 2008, 04:05:54 pm
hey
i am !
yer i've read about 70% of it. At the start i was like "wtf, how am going to understand this?"
its a good play, im enjoying it.
In year 12, does the teacher go through the novels?

From my experience, the teacher doesn't go through the novels per say, they just discussed key issues of the novels.
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: osmoister on December 21, 2008, 04:07:03 pm
i've read this, it's a good one. though next year, we'll be doing the kite runner
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: methodsboy on December 21, 2008, 04:11:31 pm
i've read this, it's a good one. though next year, we'll be doing the kite runner
In your opinion (others are welcome), do you think that More is selfish?
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: costargh on December 21, 2008, 04:29:43 pm
You can argue both ways. Generally though you'd want to come to the ultimate conclusion that he is not.

You'd want to discuss reasons both for and against.
eg. if u wanted 2 say that More was not selfish, you could start by sayin "he may be seen as selfish by the audience because his refusal to sign the Act put his loved ones lives in danger and their quslity of life was dimished."

however u will want to after the first body paragraph start showing why he is ultimately not selfish. ie. "However, the audience is led to believe that More is not selfish because Bolt illustrates that a mans conscience is more important that a mans life, and it is his willingness to die to preserve his conscience that allows him to show qualities tht replicate a man who is unselfish."
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: hard on December 21, 2008, 04:38:02 pm
what's AMFAS?
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: kurrymuncher on December 21, 2008, 05:01:39 pm
A man for all seasons
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: hard on December 21, 2008, 05:02:58 pm
ahkai well not reading/watching or whatever it is that text.
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: costargh on December 21, 2008, 06:46:36 pm
It's a play by Robert Bolt :P
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 21, 2008, 06:54:54 pm
One of the best texts to study for IMO (which is why I rejected LBW and decided on AMFAS for the exam. :D)
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: hard on December 21, 2008, 07:42:49 pm
It's a play by Robert Bolt :P

oh a play! would you consider it better than the crucible? If you've read it that is.
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 21, 2008, 07:51:25 pm
It's a play by Robert Bolt :P

oh a play! would you consider it better than the crucible? If you've read it that is.

I've read The Crucible and can honestly say that whilst Proctor's inability to give in to the crime of witchcraft was a riveting and exciting tale, I liked More's stand against signing King Henry VIII's oath to divorce his wife and marry his mistress a little bit more. I guess it comes down to your taste in plays and how much you appreciate the story and context. (I would write on The Crucible in context, though. ;))
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: methodsboy on December 22, 2008, 12:46:35 pm
You can argue both ways. Generally though you'd want to come to the ultimate conclusion that he is not.

You'd want to discuss reasons both for and against.
eg. if u wanted 2 say that More was not selfish, you could start by sayin "he may be seen as selfish by the audience because his refusal to sign the Act put his loved ones lives in danger and their quslity of life was dimished."

however u will want to after the first body paragraph start showing why he is ultimately not selfish. ie. "However, the audience is led to believe that More is not selfish because Bolt illustrates that a mans conscience is more important that a mans life, and it is his willingness to die to preserve his conscience that allows him to show qualities tht replicate a man who is unselfish."
nice ! :) i was thinking like that too
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: mtwtfss on December 22, 2008, 07:33:15 pm
Hard Times FTW!
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: cobby on December 22, 2008, 08:23:08 pm
Im doing AMFAS :D
Began reading the preface earlier tonight, the language is so complex as opposed to The Catcher in the Rye.
None the less, i look forward to reading this book :D
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 22, 2008, 08:51:13 pm
Im doing AMFAS :D
Began reading the preface earlier tonight, the language is so complex as opposed to The Catcher in the Rye.
None the less, i look forward to reading this book :D


Trust me, you'll love it! :)
Title: Re: AMFAS 2009!
Post by: costargh on December 22, 2008, 09:07:51 pm
Yep as i explained on msn, preface is written in a differnt style of language to the play.