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Title: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: hard on December 22, 2008, 12:49:44 am
Well this is how it is:

Applied for UMEP philosophy which as stands requires A/A+ abg across all essay writing subjects and B/B+ avg in all other subjects. With these results do you think i can get in? Keep in mind, they said that they required a table outlining what each mark corresponds to in grades, eg A-80+ etc which i haven't done so.

3/4
Legal:49
VCD31
1/2
english:88% avg
methods:75% avg
chemistry:71% avg
physics:40% avg

I would presume that english is an essay writing subject but would you consider legal to be one?
what are my chances of getting in?

EDIT: Oh and both the principle and the VCE coordinator apparently write very good things about me in the application form. The VCE coordinator sent it off to.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: shinny on December 22, 2008, 01:09:35 am
I haven't applied for any uni subjects, but if I were them, I'd definitely give any kid whose got a 49 in legal a spot in philsophy...They should realise that you've (I hope) sacrificed your 1/2s at the expense of your 3/4s anyhow. HOWEVER, in the land of the bureaucracy of universities, they might have to stick with formalities. Like I said, I've never had any experience with this so yeh, all I can say is good luck =T

Oh, and no I don't think legal is an essay writing subject despite there being an essay since you're not specifically marked on how well you write, but what you write about (I assume?).
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: hard on December 22, 2008, 01:21:27 am
I haven't applied for any uni subjects, but if I were them, I'd definitely give any kid whose got a 49 in legal a spot in philsophy...They should realise that you've (I hope) sacrificed your 1/2s at the expense of your 3/4s anyhow. HOWEVER, in the land of the bureaucracy of universities, they might have to stick with formalities. Like I said, I've never had any experience with this so yeh, all I can say is good luck =T

Oh, and no I don't think legal is an essay writing subject despite there being an essay since you're not specifically marked on how well you write, but what you write about (I assume?).
yer i did no work for unit 1/2 subjects (literally), just did sacs as they come.
To the later, well yes and no. Legal requires you to write fluently and express it in a formal manner, very similar to an english essay even with the paragraphs and all, but you're right, most of the marks come from what you write so i'm not sure whether it'd be considered one.
Thanks for the feedback shinny.
i'm so stressing out about this, doing my head in!!!!!
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Toothpaste on December 22, 2008, 01:24:10 am
If you don't get in first time around, appeal like what enwiabe did.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Eriny on December 22, 2008, 01:28:15 am
I think you'll get in. Your year 11 results aren't really that bad, and you got an A for English, which really counts (and I do think Legal would count as an essay writing subject). Your other subjects are just to see that you can manage year 12 while doing a uni subject, and the only result that is an outlier is physics, which shouldn't matter at all, especially if you've indicated that you're going to drop it.

IMO, you should be feeling fairly confident.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: hard on December 22, 2008, 01:38:12 am
I think you'll get in. Your year 11 results aren't really that bad, and you got an A for English, which really counts (and I do think Legal would count as an essay writing subject). Your other subjects are just to see that you can manage year 12 while doing a uni subject, and the only result that is an outlier is physics, which shouldn't matter at all, especially if you've indicated that you're going to drop it.

IMO, you should be feeling fairly confident.
thanks for the reassurance. Yer hopefully they don't really take notice of physics but i guess i didn't really even touch my year 11 books. To think of it, now i should've opened my methods book fuck! LOL i didn't even read my english books, i just relied on quotes and the basic story line.
my main concern i think would be the part were i didn't send in the grade distribution thingo. I'm just hoping that they don't really mind if i didn't include it.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: hard on December 22, 2008, 01:38:44 am
If you don't get in first time around, appeal like what enwiabe did.
how would i do that? i thought their decisions were final?
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Toothpaste on December 22, 2008, 01:43:22 am
If you don't get in first time around, appeal like what enwiabe did.
how would i do that? i thought their decisions were final?
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,8159.msg102539.html#msg102539
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,751.msg14065.html#msg14065
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,1013.msg15897.html#msg15897

That should help.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: dekoyl on December 22, 2008, 01:52:02 am
Hehe hard you are much like me (fretting over getting accepted an all that.)
The responses in this thread have made me feel a lot more comfortable too.

Good luck in getting into philosophy. I'm not sure if they really consider all your subjects though.
I hope they don't consider humanities for maths.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: hard on December 22, 2008, 01:54:51 am
Hehe hard you are much like me (fretting over getting accepted an all that.)
The responses in this thread have made me feel a lot more comfortable too.

Good luck in getting into philosophy. I'm not sure if they really consider all your subjects though.
I hope they don't consider humanities for maths.
ahaha and i hope they don't consider maths for humanities! goodluck dekoyl, i'm pretty sure your 42 in methods will do the trick.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 22, 2008, 09:13:08 am
I think they should see how much time and dedication you have put into your year 12 subjects, and think of the year 11 subjects as something minor. You will have no trouble getting in with that excellent 49 in legal... Good luck, Admon. :)
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: hard on December 22, 2008, 02:36:21 pm
I think you'll get in. Your year 11 results aren't really that bad, and you got an A for English, which really counts (and I do think Legal would count as an essay writing subject). Your other subjects are just to see that you can manage year 12 while doing a uni subject, and the only result that is an outlier is physics, which shouldn't matter at all, especially if you've indicated that you're going to drop it.

IMO, you should be feeling fairly confident.

 I hadn't come across the word "outlier" [neither "douchebag" (nor a host of internet slang words)] before VN :P
lol outlier is used in further and year 11 methods.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Eriny on December 22, 2008, 04:34:04 pm
^ And also psych. Basically any subjects where you have to learn about taking the mean.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 22, 2008, 04:39:39 pm
^ And also psych. Basically any subjects where you have to learn about taking the mean.

Ohhh... The only part of maths I liked... Probability. :)
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: riadnicolas on December 22, 2008, 10:41:54 pm
youll get in, a friend had much worse results and got in
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Damo17 on December 22, 2008, 10:54:37 pm
youll get in, a friend had much worse results and got in

How much weight do they put on Year 12 study scores when deciding who gets accepted? I have an 85% Avg across all yr 11 subjects except accounting- 100% on all SAC's through year- 99% on exam.

I applied to MUEP Maths, I think my yr 11 results are decent enough to get me in only what has got me worried is my 30 in English and 33 in ITA. Since these don't relate to Maths, would they hold alot of weight in acceptance. Am I likely to get in?

p.s. My Teacher comments on my reports are fantastic, especially my maths/physics and accounting teachers.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Eriny on December 22, 2008, 11:11:29 pm
^ Did you get a B+ average in your non-maths subjects (including year 12 results)? If so, you'll probably get in. Some people get in without doing any year 12 subjects at all, so I don't think it'll matter a great deal.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Damo17 on December 22, 2008, 11:40:23 pm
^ Did you get a B+ average in your non-maths subjects (including year 12 results)? If so, you'll probably get in. Some people get in without doing any year 12 subjects at all, so I don't think it'll matter a great deal.

Thanks Eriny. Yeah I did, for English I got an avg of 76% and same in ITA. So when they look at Yr 12 studies, they don't necessarily look at the study score but your SAC results?

Here are my average's:
English        76%
ITA             76%
Physics        90%
Methods       89%
GMA             88%
Accounting    100%

I guess the only thing I'm worried about is my Yr 12 study scores but if they look at your SAC marks and not your study score so much then that makes it much better.

I'm just so excited about next year and need some reassurance.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Eriny on December 23, 2008, 12:40:59 am
I think you will get in, I obviously don't know, but your year 11 results are good. For your year 12 subjects, what were your GA scores released by the VCAA?
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Damo17 on December 23, 2008, 09:04:37 am
I think you will get in, I obviously don't know, but your year 11 results are good. For your year 12 subjects, what were your GA scores released by the VCAA?

English: B A C+
ITA: B+ A B
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 23, 2008, 09:10:30 am
I think you will get in, I obviously don't know, but your year 11 results are good. For your year 12 subjects, what were your GA scores released by the VCAA?

English: B A C+
ITA: B+ A B

That should average out to around a B or B+ for English, and a B+ for ITA. And with your excellent teacher comments, I think you would definitely be able to get into MUEP maths. Good luck. :)
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Damo17 on December 23, 2008, 09:14:08 am
^
Thanks Happy, I'm just so excited about it and just needed some reassurance.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 23, 2008, 09:17:39 am
When do you know if you're accepted? :)
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Damo17 on December 23, 2008, 09:45:08 am
^
Around mid January. Long wait!
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 23, 2008, 09:49:23 am
^
That's about the time we get out Uni offers. :S... But I honestly think you have nothing to worry about; you'll get in easily. ;)
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Damo17 on December 23, 2008, 09:50:38 am
^
That's about the time we get out Uni offers. :S... But I honestly think you have nothing to worry about; you'll get in easily. ;)

Thanks so much happy, you've put my mind at ease. :)
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Mao on December 23, 2008, 12:45:11 pm
Damo17, I don't think this is the first time I've told you this, but Monash has very lenient selection criteria when it comes to enhancement. =]
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Damo17 on December 26, 2008, 12:26:30 pm
Damo17, I don't think this is the first time I've told you this, but Monash has very lenient selection criteria when it comes to enhancement. =]

Yeah, I did remember that. Maybe I'm just posting here because it's one thing for me to think i'll get in but it's more comfort having others look at your results and tell you that you will get in. It makes me feel better and more excited about it. :D
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: Damo17 on December 26, 2008, 12:56:01 pm
Thanks Gonzo, all of this is really comforting.  ;D
No one has any idea at how bad I want to do MUEP Maths.
Title: Re: do you think i can get in with my situation?
Post by: dekoyl on December 31, 2008, 04:58:34 am
I don't think anyone would know for sure but I'll ask anyway. =]

When they look at your subject grade, do they just look at the overall achievement grade? For GMA, I got A+ for coursework, A+ for SAC 1, A for SAC 2 (all indicated on report) however in exam one I got a B+ and exam 2 I got a C+ (missed out on B by one mark - not indicated). This brought me down to a B+ =\

Same goes for my other subjects. I maintain an A/B+ throughout term 3 and 4 however because I was more focused on my 3/4, I didn't really study for the year 11 exams which brought my overall grade down.