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Archived Discussion => 2014 => Results Discussion => Victoria => 2008 => Topic started by: jazz on December 22, 2008, 02:07:30 am
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http://www.vtac.edu.au/pdf/scaling_report.pdf
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That scaling is shit compared to last year, so unfair.
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It looks pretty much the same as the past few years to be honest
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Spec scaled less, as did some LOTEs
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Spec scaling was so shit to the max... My methods and spec scores scaled to the same thing... :(
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im pretty happy that methods got scaled by 7 ! :)
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im pretty happy that methods got scaled by 7 ! :)
Grrr... Mine scaled 5 or something! XD
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aw does that mean scaling for next year or the year after that, spesh will be scaled less :S
? don't think so... who told you that?
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aw does that mean scaling for next year or the year after that, spesh will be scaled less :S
no, i dont think so.
Doesnt it just get scaled according to how the state does on the exam? Maybe this years was just a bit easier than last yr's spesh exam, and so therefore more people did better on it?
oh btw on that report it says that legal stays the same if u get above 40? My 47 went to a 47.4 i think. And my friends 42 went down to like 41 or something. How does that work lol.
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Doesnt it just get scaled according to how the state does on the exam? Maybe this years was just a bit easier than last yr's spesh exam, and so therefore more people did better on it?
The annoying thing was, this year's was much HARDER than the previous year's spec exams. I seriously don't understand the logistics of scaling. :(
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Doesnt it just get scaled according to how the state does on the exam? Maybe this years was just a bit easier than last yr's spesh exam, and so therefore more people did better on it?
The annoying thing was, this year's was much HARDER than the previous year's spec exams. I seriously don't understand the logistics of scaling. :(
was it? : O well then how does that work?
actually, ppl were also saying that this year's methods exam was easier than last yrs, but this yr method got scaled up more I think.
The system rly confuses me too lol
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For the umpteenth time, scaling is based on how the people who do the subjects go in there other subjects. So according to my reckoning, people who did spec this year didn't do as great in there other subjects as they normally do. Conversely, those that did methods averaged higher in there other subjects then usual. Correct me if I'm wrong please anyone.
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The way I understand scaling is that they look at people who have been getting 30 raw in spesh (for example) and then they consider their other subjects and see what sort of raw scores they have been getting in other subjects. If the average is around 40 for the other subjects, then the spesh score is attributed to the difficult in obtaining a high study score for the subject and is brought up to 40.
If the spesh exam was hard, it means very little imo. Everyone is ranked relative to another. Indeed the thing about hard exams is that you can make a few errors if you are really smart and still get a high study score. For example, if the exam is so easy that 2% of the state get full marks, then losing one mark can have a significant effect on your study score: so some really smart people who score really highly in other subjects may get a lower study score in spesh. If the exam is hard, these really smart people (I guess this only applies more to the top end of the scale) will get higher study scores, which correlate more closely to their Study scores in other subjects, and hence spesh will scale less.
But still, even having said that, the effect of the difficulty of the exam is realitvely small. It's the strength of the cohort doing spesh that is important. If you have a truly elite cohort in one year, where people getting mid-30s are getting 50s in all other subjects (lol), then even a mid-30 would scale up to 50. If you have a weaker cohort, then perhaps the people getting mid-30s are averaging 40 in their other subjects and the spesh score only goes up to 40. I have no clue how the scaling works above 50, but I guess VCAA has a way.
That's my interpretation of how it works. Correct me if I'm wrong :)