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Title: Sarah Palin
Post by: Aye Bay Bay on September 04, 2008, 10:29:00 pm
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-ledeall4-2008sep04,0,1164878.story

Yay or nay?
She describes herself as a 'hockey mom'.
Soccer mums> Hockey mums so for me its nay.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: costargh on September 04, 2008, 10:31:46 pm
All the current and coming politicians in America are retarded. Especially this one

Nay
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: transgression on September 04, 2008, 10:38:38 pm
hockey grandmother? her 17 year old daughter is pregnant D:

hm, undecided.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: /0 on September 04, 2008, 10:46:57 pm
She seems pretty clueless to me. Once she went on an interview and asked what the role of the vice president was (and this was after she became running mate). At least if she was smart enough to be scheming she would have asked people in her party.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: bturville on September 04, 2008, 11:01:09 pm
it was mccains dumb fault for choosing her. completely ridiculous, and unsuitable. this should clinch obama's victory (which is a good thing anyway)


Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: polky on September 04, 2008, 11:07:55 pm
I don't like her because she is staunchly pro-life and anti gay marriage, not really aligned with my views.  Considering McCain's age, this woman could possibly one day be the president of America...
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Collin Li on September 04, 2008, 11:12:53 pm
Yeah, no thanks. Although I must admit, if we are choosing between social authoritarianism and economic authoritarianism, it's still a possibility that this kind of social authoritarianism will not do as much harm as Obama might do with the economy.

Obama needs to surround himself with less of the same economic advisers that the Democrats rely on.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: mark_alec on September 04, 2008, 11:48:26 pm
I don't like her because she is staunchly pro-life and anti gay marriage, not really aligned with my views.  Considering McCain's age, this woman could possibly one day be the president of America...
I on the other hand, believe that life is sacred and that abortion should be always called what it is, MURDER.

Also, G-d quite clearly states in the Bible that "a man may not sleep with another man as he does with a women... it is an abomination to the L-rd". It is only logical that society condemns homosexuality, rather than condoning it through gay 'marriage' (which isn't actually a marriage, as the definition of marriage is a union between a man and a woman.)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: costargh on September 04, 2008, 11:56:04 pm
To a person who isn't Christian, your above post means nothing. lol

I am a fence sitter on lots of these ethical issues
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: /0 on September 04, 2008, 11:59:37 pm
I don't even see why homosexuals think gay marriage is so important. The importance of marriage throughout the ages has decreased a lot. Back in the day it was compulsory for everyone to marry and stay together forever, now 'nobody' gives a shit. If homosexuals want any benefits from 'marriage' the government could create a different 'union ceremony' to satisfy that.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Collin Li on September 05, 2008, 12:05:18 am
Here's my opinion on that: the government should have nothing to do with marriage, and noone (or single religion) should have a monopoly on marriage, so that essentially means there will be suppliers for gay marriage, as long as it is in demand.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: ninwa on September 05, 2008, 12:13:26 am
what polky and coblin said
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: enwiabe on September 05, 2008, 12:20:52 am
Yeah, no thanks. Although I must admit, if we are choosing between social authoritarianism and economic authoritarianism, it's still a possibility that this kind of social authoritarianism will not do as much harm as Obama might do with the economy.

Obama needs to surround himself with less of the same economic advisers that the Democrats rely on.

You think the republican party handles the economy well? See: Iraq war and the absolutely epic debt incurred from it.

THIS WAS UNDER A REPUBLICAN GOV'T. Under Clinton's democratic leadership, the American economy recovered from a recession (induced in times of a republican leadership) and began to BOOM.

Oh shi- SHI- SHI- economic argument goes out the fucking window.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Collin Li on September 05, 2008, 12:28:51 am
Agreed about the war. I cannot defend the Republican party's recent actions. You don't have to be an asshole about it though, fuckwit.

The Democrats are still going to make social services worse off unless they deregulate. Frankly, I'm not concerned about how particular political parties deal with the business cycle because it's more chance that they get elected at the right times.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Mao on September 05, 2008, 12:36:52 am
I don't like her because she is staunchly pro-life and anti gay marriage, not really aligned with my views.  Considering McCain's age, this woman could possibly one day be the president of America...
I on the other hand, believe that life is sacred and that abortion should be always called what it is, MURDER.

Also, G-d quite clearly states in the Bible that "a man may not sleep with another man as he does with a women... it is an abomination to the L-rd". It is only logical that society condemns homosexuality, rather than condoning it through gay 'marriage' (which isn't actually a marriage, as the definition of marriage is a union between a man and a woman.)

a religious reference cannot single-handedly define where does life begin, nor the genders in a companionship.

especially not when there are people who do not accept religion.

that, I believe, is called coercion
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Collin Li on September 05, 2008, 12:38:33 am
Responding to a troll... haha
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: enwiabe on September 05, 2008, 12:38:47 am
hey i never insulted you - just the shittiness of your argument. No need to call me names :(

I hurt now.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Eriny on September 05, 2008, 11:05:30 am
So many Americans are really suffering at the moment, families are homeless! According to the UN, things like food and shelter are human rights and thus, the Republican President is guilty of unethical behaviour. This is not really an economic issue as much as it is a political one in that members of the American society have been deprived of their rights.

Although, it's still important to consider that the American political system is quite different from ours. Bush is the executive, but that isn't necessarily the same party as the legislature like it is here, I think the democrats have the legislature. That said, Bush is able to veto everything. Anyway, the onus is not just on Bush to act, the whole government is shitty.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Collin Li on September 06, 2008, 01:44:46 pm
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Many of Palin's political views are of a strong social conservative nature: she opposes abortion except when the life of the mother would otherwise be imperilled,[99] and is a member of Feminists for Life; she backs capital punishment,[100] and opposes same-sex marriage.[42] She is also a member of the National Rifle Association and is a strong supporter of the right to keep and bear arms.

Palin is known for her support of "individual freedom and independence"[3], and her endorsement for the minimal state and economic liberty of classical libertarianism: she is known in Alaska for her strong opposition to what she views as excessive government spending and corruption.[101] She has strongly supported development of oil and natural gas drilling in Alaska, including in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.[45]

As governor, Palin supported full funding for K–12 education, as well as "early funding of education", a program that would give school districts more predictability.[102] She is a proponent of teaching both creationism and evolution in science classes, but she did not push creation science as governor of Alaska.[103]

She is probably more economically wise than McCain is, by himself.