Post by: Collin Li on September 16, 2008, 06:19:34 pm
Suggest more interesting and US presidential election related questions and I will put them up over time.
Post by: TrueLight on September 16, 2008, 06:25:47 pm
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on September 16, 2008, 06:26:12 pm
Post by: Aye Bay Bay on September 16, 2008, 06:26:59 pm
Post by: *Roxxii* on September 16, 2008, 06:27:27 pm
I live under a rock :D
Ooooh... ii vote for PATRICK STAR :smitten: ;D :smitten: heheheee
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/fionnoh/poster67450520.jpg)
Post by: ninwa on September 16, 2008, 06:29:33 pm
Post by: squance on September 16, 2008, 06:31:40 pm
Post by: Rietie on September 16, 2008, 06:35:06 pm
Post by: bubble sunglasses on September 16, 2008, 06:38:58 pm
the poll topic is ambiguous. is it meant to be "who would you vote for?"
Post by: Collin Li on September 16, 2008, 06:51:58 pm
You forgot to put Ralph Nader and Paris Hilton as candidates. They're running for President as well.
There's Other and that was my vote.
Post by: cara.mel on September 16, 2008, 08:04:57 pm
You forgot to put Ralph Nader and Paris Hilton as candidates. They're running for President as well.
There's Other and that was my vote.
Ron Paul? :P/me wonders what happened to him
Post by: AppleXY on September 16, 2008, 08:11:00 pm
If it was out of Obama and McCain, then I'd choose Obama. (McCain for one is a racist fuck and is extremely old).
Post by: Collin Li on September 16, 2008, 08:17:43 pm
Ron Paul? :P/me wonders what happened to him
He didn't get the Republican nomination. McCain did.
Post by: TrueLight on September 21, 2008, 12:46:35 am
Post by: costargh on September 21, 2008, 12:49:34 am
to be honest, neither of them should be president and both of their vice's are worse.
Post by: hard on September 21, 2008, 01:43:28 am
Post by: TrueLight on September 21, 2008, 01:57:01 am
obama reminds me a bit like rudd all this stuff about change but i dont really know what hes changing lolz... and mccain he makes me vomit if he wins i swear something dodgy is going on
Post by: Collin Li on September 21, 2008, 03:07:42 am
http://www.mises.org
Post by: Velox on September 29, 2008, 12:54:12 am
Post by: Noblesse on September 29, 2008, 05:12:32 pm
http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/
Although most people that are going to actually see this are undoubtedly young and computer-savvy on average, which would be a demographic that leans heavily towards Obama
Post by: Collin Li on September 29, 2008, 06:19:50 pm
gosh u bandwagon obama supporters are such fanatics.
to be honest, neither of them should be president and both of their vice's are worse.
The best of the four (Obama, McCain, and their vices) is Sarah Palin, in my opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIlE3Z1Hm9A
I don't agree with a fair bit of her positions, but I'd say the same for any of the other three too!
Post by: Rietie on September 29, 2008, 06:26:11 pm
She's is one of the worst things that has ever happened to women.
And I'm annoyed that she believes she's a feminist, when her views and policy positions state that she is not.
Post by: Collin Li on September 29, 2008, 06:32:38 pm
Post by: jess3254 on September 29, 2008, 06:33:57 pm
-She doesn't think date rape is 'real' rape
-She doesn't think rape in marriage is rape
-Made rape victims pay for their own rape test kits
-Wanted to know how to ban books in the local library, and then fired a librarian.
-Thinks living near Russia contributes to her foreign policy experience
-Is against homosexuality
-Is an evangelical christian with an extremely narrow mind. (SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!!)
-Didn't know what the vice-president did a month before she was nominated by John McCain
-Doesn't support stem-cell research
-Is against teaching evolution in schools, and instead, wants "intelligent design" to be taught
-Is against sex education and is a supporter of abstinence only education. Oh and her teenage daughter is pregnant. IRONY.
-Was a beauty queen.
And that's about it.
This is all I know about her at the moment.
So, how the hell is she the best of the 4?
Post by: Rietie on September 29, 2008, 06:38:15 pm
Basically, she's not for the rights of women.
She's against them.
She's also for censorship.
If she lived in Australia, I bet she would be a member of the Family First party.
Post by: jess3254 on September 29, 2008, 06:41:12 pm
If she lived in Australia, I bet she would be a member of the Family First party.
Lol, nah. The Christian Democratic Party.
Post by: Collin Li on September 29, 2008, 06:41:24 pm
Biden and Obama are clueless on economic issues, unable to comprehend the unintended consequences of their well-meaning regulations. For one, they wish to stop outsourcing. Secondly, they attribute the failure of the financial markets to a lack of regulation, ignoring rapidly growing regulations in the 80s, and market distortions introduced a decade before the crash. The Democrats actually encouraged these firms through a public-private partnership to lend to poor families that were incapable of paying back the loans! Guess who won from that deal? The corporations did. The taxpayers have to pay for the illiquid assets now.
McCain is worse. He also has no clue about economics either, but if his expertise is really foreign policy, then a "hundred years in Iraq" sums it up.
Post by: jess3254 on September 29, 2008, 06:52:28 pm
Post by: Collin Li on September 29, 2008, 06:55:00 pm
Quote
Palin describes herself as a fiscal conservative. At the Republican National Convention, Palin stated "I came to office promising to control spending - by request if possible and by veto if necessary... I suspended the state fuel tax, and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress."
Palin supports free-market competition in health care, and laws allowing patients better access to medical pricing information. In 2008, Palin said she was considering incentives for employers to provide health insurance. She added that changes must also include citizens "choosing to take more personal responsibility" to be healthier.
In a September 18, 2008 speech at Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Palin said, "Our opponents, they have some strange ideas about raising taxes. To them, raising taxes – and Joe Biden said it again today – raising taxes is about patriotism. To the rest of America, that's not patriotism. Raising taxes is about killing jobs and hurting small businesses and making things worse. This isn't about anyone's patriotism – it's about Barack Obama's poor judgement."
Various quotes from Wikipedia.
Essentially, she's wise enough to realise her incompetence. "I don't know how to run the economy!" So leave it to the marketplace - you spend your own money. We know it produces good outcomes through the process of market rivalry, and more importantly, it is the only justified system of economic activity - you are responsible for your own choices.
Post by: Rietie on September 29, 2008, 07:01:20 pm
Palin is a social conservative. A lifetime member of the National Rifle Association (NRA), Palin believes the right to bear arms includes handgun possession, and has advocated gun safety education for youth.[181] She supports capital punishment.[182] Palin supports allowing the discussion of creationism in public schools, but says it does not have to be part of the curriculum.[183] Palin opposes same-sex marriage and supported a non-binding referendum for an Alaskan constitutional amendment to deny state health benefits to same-sex couples.[121][184] Palin has called herself "as pro-life as any candidate can be"[184] and has called abortion an "atrocity."[185]
Palin believes that abortion should be banned in nearly all cases, including rape and incest, except if the life of the mother is endangered.[186][187] She has said she would support a constitutional amendment with that effect.[188] While governor she supported bills to require parental consent for abortion on minors, and to ban partial birth abortion; both measures were defeated.[189] When asked by ABC's Charles Gibson whether she felt Roe v. Wade should be overturned, she answered, "I think it should and I think that states should be able to decide that issue... I am pro-life." Pressing further, Gibson asked, "John McCain would allow abortion in cases of rape and incest. Do you believe in it only in the case where the life of the mother is in danger?" and Palin responded, "That is my personal opinion." [190] She is also a member of Feminists for Life.[185] She supports sex education in public schools that encourages abstinence but also discusses birth control.[185][191]
Post by: Collin Li on September 29, 2008, 07:06:43 pm
What is wrong with "allowing discussion of creationism in public schools?" It would be censorship to have it the other way around.
The reason why her extremely fringe ideas do not worry me is because hardly anyone else will support them. Popular (and often misunderstood) ideas, such as the opposition to outsourcing, free trade and free markets are a serious problem, and these are the issues that are getting attention in Congress on a day-to-day basis.
Post by: Noblesse on September 29, 2008, 08:02:16 pm
A very interesting watch, IMO I find her terrifying.
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on September 29, 2008, 09:02:26 pm
Post by: rh on October 01, 2008, 05:15:12 pm
http://umrresearch.com.au/doc/USPresidentialElection.pdf
Post by: sxcalexc on October 02, 2008, 12:11:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntEE9Zy-qQQ
A very interesting watch, IMO I find her terrifying.
Agreed. If the old bastard (McCain) dies, which he probably will, I truly will be scared for the US/world if that dimwit is in control.
Post by: Noblesse on October 06, 2008, 04:19:16 pm
I think I'm in love...
(with Tina)
Post by: /0 on October 06, 2008, 08:28:30 pm
Post by: Noblesse on October 06, 2008, 08:39:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E
Post by: cobby on October 07, 2008, 07:44:55 pm
Post by: Noblesse on October 07, 2008, 08:00:26 pm
I made the first one (got quote from news.com.au) but the others are from pundit kitchen, an awesome site (from the makers of ICanHasCheesburger)
(http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/717/sarahlf2.png)
(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/political-pictures-sarah-palin-foreign-relations-experience.jpg)
(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-sarah-palin-empty-chair-gotcha-question.jpg)
(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-sarah-palin-see-moon-house-qualified-astronaut.jpg)
I hope there are not too many images.
Post by: Noblesse on October 19, 2008, 06:34:21 pm
Sarah. Palin.
Becoming. Adorable.
SNL & Tina (<3) did it again, however the real Sarah Palin appeared on the show.
I must admit, even though I hate most of her policies, she actually seems...kinda normal.
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/update-palin-rap/773781/
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/gov-palin-cold-open/773761/
Post by: costargh on October 19, 2008, 09:51:34 pm
Must. Resist.
Sarah. Palin.
Becoming. Adorable.
SNL & Tina (<3) did it again, however the real Sarah Palin appeared on the show.
I must admit, even though I hate most of her policies, she actually seems...kinda normal.
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/update-palin-rap/773781/
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/gov-palin-cold-open/773761/
ahahhah this is awesome!! (L)
Post by: TrueLight on October 20, 2008, 12:24:03 am
Post by: Noblesse on October 20, 2008, 04:53:20 pm
(http://blogs.news.com.au/images/uploads/palin01.gif)
This is her "Evolution is banned" dance
Post by: sxcalexc on October 21, 2008, 09:59:22 pm
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1597/20081009palinbb9.jpg)
Post by: rh on October 21, 2008, 10:20:45 pm
Post by: Noblesse on October 21, 2008, 10:34:33 pm
Seen this one Jamison? :D
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1597/20081009palinbb9.jpg)
I haven't! LOL thanks for showing me :D
Post by: Collin Li on October 24, 2008, 09:07:01 pm
Transcends the petty schoolyard insults being thrown around.
Post by: Collin Li on November 01, 2008, 11:56:15 am
Quote from: http://www.campaignforliberty.com
The most eye-opening civics lesson I ever had was while teaching third grade. The presidential election was heating up and some of the children showed an interest. I decided we would have an election for a class president. We would choose our nominees. They would make a campaign speech and the class would vote.
To simplify the process, candidates were nominated by other class members. We discussed what kinds of characteristics these students should have. We got many nominations and from those, Jamie and Olivia were picked to run for the top spot.
The class had done a great job in their selections. Both candidates were good kids. I thought Jamie might have an advantage because he got lots of parental support. I had never seen Olivia’s mother. The day arrived when they were to make their speeches. Jamie went first. He had specific ideas about how to make our class a better place. He ended by promising to do his very best. Every one applauded. He sat down and Olivia came to the podium. Her speech was concise. She said, "If you will vote for me, I will give you ice cream." She sat down. The class went wild. "Yes! Yes! We want ice cream."
She surely would say more. She did not have to. A discussion followed. How did she plan to pay for the ice cream? She wasn’t sure. Would her parents buy it or would the class pay for it. She didn’t know. The class really didn’t care. All they were thinking about was ice cream. Jamie was forgotten. Olivia won by a land slide.
Every time Barack Obama opens his mouth he offers ice cream, and fifty percent of America reacts like nine year olds. They want ice cream. The other fifty percent know they’re going to have to feed the cow.
Post by: bturville on November 01, 2008, 03:58:19 pm
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2iasw8m.jpg)
Post by: Mark on November 04, 2008, 10:11:59 am
Haha:Quote from: http://www.campaignforliberty.comEvery time Barack Obama opens his mouth he offers ice cream, and fifty percent of America reacts like nine year olds. They want ice cream. The other fifty percent know they’re going to have to feed the cow.
If Obama is offering ice-cream, McCain is offering a Coogee Bay Hotel gelato :P
Post by: Collin Li on November 04, 2008, 12:21:43 pm
Haha:Quote from: http://www.campaignforliberty.comEvery time Barack Obama opens his mouth he offers ice cream, and fifty percent of America reacts like nine year olds. They want ice cream. The other fifty percent know they’re going to have to feed the cow.
If Obama is offering ice-cream, McCain is offering a Coogee Bay Hotel gelato :P
Sadly, that's Pretty true, I must say.
Why isn't there a politician who just lets individuals pay for their own ice-cream or gelati.
Post by: Eriny on November 05, 2008, 10:42:45 am
Post by: hard on November 05, 2008, 01:14:41 pm
Post by: rh on November 05, 2008, 03:01:48 pm
Post by: bturville on November 05, 2008, 03:04:40 pm
Obama has it.
Post by: rh on November 05, 2008, 03:06:31 pm
chicago looks amazing
Post by: Collin Li on November 05, 2008, 06:47:55 pm
We're still screwed over with big government for the next 4 years. When will the USA return to its minimalist principles of liberty? Never has Benjamin Franklin's quote been so revealing about how the current state of USA has been achieved:
"He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security."
Too many safety nets, too many safeguards, too much bureaucracy and control.
Post by: hard on November 05, 2008, 06:51:43 pm
I don't understand why people are so passionate about choosing the lesser of two evils. In the end, they're both evil, and even though there's no opportunity for real change, it's the sort of event where you make a rational decision: "okay, this guy's less evil, I'll vote for him."
We're still screwed over with big government for the next 4 years. When will the USA return to its minimalist principles of liberty? Never has Benjamin Franklin's quote been so revealing about how the current state of USA has been achieved:
"He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security."
Too many safety nets, too many safeguards, too much bureaucracy and control.
said it how it is.
Post by: AQ on November 10, 2008, 10:31:57 pm
there both dogs and politicians, they both will BS and do worst not just for the U.S but for Australia and other countries.
The only thing the U.S is focused on is about there financial situations which is affecting us, bloody 1 AUS dollar = .66 US cents.
How gay is that!