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Title: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Odette. on December 18, 2008, 01:15:48 pm
I'm a tad bored as you can see...
Just curious to know which school everyone will send their children to and why...
Which do you think would be better... co-ed schools or schools which seperate females and males? Same sex schools? (what are those schools called btw?)
I have no idea where I'll send my children, so many options....
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: ninwa on December 18, 2008, 01:21:46 pm
Probably co-ed ... that is, if I even have kids, damn brats :P
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: costargh on December 18, 2008, 01:24:39 pm
Ideally, one of the best state schools (non-selective) in Victoria... would be so much easier with league tables.

In high school probably the same although I wouldnt hesitate putting them in a Catholic school if the fees werent too inflated by then and i thought the quality of teaching was better. Not sure about co-ed and single sex. If they were a girl probably single sex, if a boy probably co-ed.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Odette. on December 18, 2008, 01:26:55 pm
Oh and another thing is it true that PEGs [Penleigh and Essendon Grammar] has same sex campuses for year 7-10 and co-ed for VCE?... Someone at that school told me...
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Eliseblack on December 18, 2008, 01:27:14 pm
a good public school..
uni high would be first preference i think.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: ninwa on December 18, 2008, 01:27:59 pm
If they were a girl probably single sex, if a boy probably co-ed.
Interesting ... why?

I dunno, I don't like the idea of single sex schools
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: squance on December 18, 2008, 01:28:41 pm
A private school...but not to my old school :P
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: /0 on December 18, 2008, 01:30:51 pm
Either the top selective schools, or, failing that, a private school.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Odette. on December 18, 2008, 01:31:28 pm
If they were a girl probably single sex, if a boy probably co-ed.
I would do the opposite to be honest... ^_^


Definitely not my old school... and most likely not a catholic school..  ;D
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: RD on December 18, 2008, 01:32:02 pm
Not the school I went to for sure, it ruins all the bright students.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: scumel on December 18, 2008, 01:32:25 pm
Oh and another thing is it true that PEGs [Penleigh and Essendon Grammar] has same sex campuses for year 7-10 and co-ed for VCE?... Someone at that school told me...
yep :)
but it works really well, i'll send my kids there
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: cara.mel on December 18, 2008, 01:33:36 pm
Firstly I'd be assessing what the education system is like in 20 years.
Next I would be assessing what sorts of kids I have as to what would suit them. In retrospect I would have loved to go to a macrob-esque school but other members of my family are more suited to open entry schools.

But if I was deciding for tomorrow, either a great state school or a select entry state school or a private school. They wouldn't be going to the local high school up the road


Also off topic:  Warning - while you were typing 8 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.
O_O
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Odette. on December 18, 2008, 01:35:08 pm
Oh and another thing is it true that PEGs [Penleigh and Essendon Grammar] has same sex campuses for year 7-10 and co-ed for VCE?... Someone at that school told me...
yep :)
but it works really well, i'll send my kids there

Awesome! Yep it seems to work for them, so many good scores lol... a friend of mine that went there got 99.90 ;D .... that campus is like so close to my house.... why oh why didn't I apply for a scholarship there? :(
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: scumel on December 18, 2008, 01:36:36 pm
Oh and another thing is it true that PEGs [Penleigh and Essendon Grammar] has same sex campuses for year 7-10 and co-ed for VCE?... Someone at that school told me...
yep :)
but it works really well, i'll send my kids there

Awesome! Yep it seems to work for them, so many good scores lol... a friend of mine that went there got 99.90 ;D .... that campus is like so close to my house.... why oh why didn't I apply for a scholarship there? :(
yeh i went there too, who do u know?
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: clinton_09 on December 18, 2008, 01:37:21 pm
Co-ed School, Probably a high performing state school followed by a private school
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: costargh on December 18, 2008, 01:37:26 pm
If they were a girl probably single sex, if a boy probably co-ed.
Interesting ... why?

I dunno, I don't like the idea of single sex schools

Pretty simple, as a protective father I would want to minimise the chances of my little baby girl being 'de-flowered' too young and also from what i remember about 'those studies' a few years ago, girls at single sex schools perform better.
If it was a boy they can go co-ed and talk up the chicks.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: scumel on December 18, 2008, 01:38:44 pm
If they were a girl probably single sex, if a boy probably co-ed.
Interesting ... why?

I dunno, I don't like the idea of single sex schools

Pretty simple, as a protective father I would want to minimise the chances of my little baby girl being 'de-flowered' too young and also from what i remember about 'those studies' a few years ago, girls at single sex schools perform better.
If it was a boy they can go co-ed and talk up the chicks.
hahahaha
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: ninwa on December 18, 2008, 01:42:45 pm
Pretty simple, as a protective father I would want to minimise the chances of my little baby girl being 'de-flowered' too young and also from what i remember about 'those studies' a few years ago, girls at single sex schools perform better.
If it was a boy they can go co-ed and talk up the chicks.
LOL

costargh for Dad of the Year :D
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Odette. on December 18, 2008, 01:43:34 pm
If they were a girl probably single sex, if a boy probably co-ed.
Interesting ... why?

I dunno, I don't like the idea of single sex schools

Pretty simple, as a protective father I would want to minimise the chances of my little baby girl being 'de-flowered' too young and also from what i remember about 'those studies' a few years ago, girls at single sex schools perform better.
If it was a boy they can go co-ed and talk up the chicks.

Well I don't mean to be rude... but most girls I know who attend a single sex school, were "de-flowered" the same time most co-ed school girls do, if not earlier...if they don't get to see guys at school... then they'll be curious... and yeah... you know what happens..
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: scumel on December 18, 2008, 01:45:02 pm
mmm idk, i know what you're saying but i think on average the "de-flowering time" is a little earlier at co-ed schools
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: costargh on December 18, 2008, 01:46:12 pm
Pretty simple, as a protective father I would want to minimise the chances of my little baby girl being 'de-flowered' too young and also from what i remember about 'those studies' a few years ago, girls at single sex schools perform better.
If it was a boy they can go co-ed and talk up the chicks.
LOL

costargh for Dad of the Year :D

:P
lol dont get me wrong... I'm not all for NO SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE or some shit. I've just heard of ridiculously young girls being pressured into sex at like 12 and 13 years old and  I'd want my daughter to be fully aware of the consequnces of such actions and to be a bit more mature before they make that decision.
:)
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 18, 2008, 01:56:31 pm
Pretty simple, as a protective father I would want to minimise the chances of my little baby girl being 'de-flowered' too young and also from what i remember about 'those studies' a few years ago, girls at single sex schools perform better.
If it was a boy they can go co-ed and talk up the chicks.
LOL

costargh for Dad of the Year :D

:P
lol dont get me wrong... I'm not all for NO SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE or some shit. I've just heard of ridiculously young girls being pressured into sex at like 12 and 13 years old and  I'd want my daughter to be fully aware of the consequnces of such actions and to be a bit more mature before they make that decision.
:)

Good father right there. :P

For my decision, it'd be either a selective school in the city, or a local school in the area. (I don't care how bad the school is; my school is one of the worst in Victoria, but I still managed to pull off 80's. ;))... I'm probably going to have like, 7 children (meh, probably less, but I want at least 1 girl and one boy... I would hate seven of one and not one of the other. :S) They can go to any school they wish, although I do agree with costargh, all girl schools do seem to perform better overall as opposed to co-ed schools.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: fredrick on December 18, 2008, 02:02:40 pm
Not my old school.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: cara.mel on December 18, 2008, 02:08:08 pm
Costa, I'm a bit confused by your logic, by putting guys in co-ed schools wouldn't they have the prime opportunity to de-flower others? :P
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: phagist_ on December 18, 2008, 02:09:49 pm
Costa, I'm a bit confused by your logic, by putting guys in co-ed schools wouldn't they have the prime opportunity to de-flower others? :P
yeh, but it's not his daughter ;)
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: vce01 on December 18, 2008, 02:10:20 pm
lol i haven't even thought about this yet o.O
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: ninwa on December 18, 2008, 02:12:06 pm
how is this a sweet nothings topic? seems perfectly legit to me :D
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: cara.mel on December 18, 2008, 02:12:17 pm
Costa, I'm a bit confused by your logic, by putting guys in co-ed schools wouldn't they have the prime opportunity to de-flower others? :P
yeh, but it's not his daughter ;)

I would sure hope not!

But yeah, I'm reading it as his sons can go around fucking anyone, but no one's touching his daughter. Probably wasn't meant for that interpretation :P
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: ninwa on December 18, 2008, 02:16:01 pm
how is this a sweet nothings topic? seems perfectly legit to me :D
crap, I forgot to post a redirection topic again
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: bubble sunglasses on December 18, 2008, 09:02:19 pm

 proly a combination of state and private, all co-ed. *possibly* a Steiner school. It would depend on their needs, really.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Eriny on December 18, 2008, 10:16:43 pm
Definitely public for Primary school.

After that, it depends on the kids and what the father thinks as well, I suppose. I wouldn't send them to private school if I didn't have the money, but if I were very rich I probably wouldn't care much either way. I have a preference for co-ed public schools because it puts students in touch with reality, if the kids plan to join in with reality later on. But, high performing schools would also prepare them for a university environment better, IMO, assuming they are going to uni. If they're bright, I'd encourage them to sit scholarship tests and try out for select entry schools.

I really don't have a problem with sending the kids to the school down the road (provided it has a nice vibe and actually seems to care about the students and the students aren't stabbing each other and so on) but I don't mind sending them to the prestigious academy either.

I think I like small schools (or at least, schools which cultivate the sense of smallness). More individual attention from all staff that way, hopefully by the end of their stay at school most of the staff would actually know who they are. Small class sizes are also a must.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: hard on December 18, 2008, 10:25:55 pm
most likely send them/him/her to Switzerland and attend  Le Rosey, Château de Rosey in Rolle. google it if you don't know what it is.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Rietie on December 18, 2008, 10:29:11 pm
Primary school - local public/state co-ed school.

Secondary school - private, Catholic, small, same-sex school. If I could afford it, that is. And they could leave the school if they didn't like it there. They would just go to another private, Catholic, small, same-sex school. :)
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: AppleXY on December 18, 2008, 10:31:01 pm
For primary school - public,

Secondary - Top private school :)
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: hard on December 18, 2008, 10:34:23 pm
For primary school - public,

Secondary - Top private school :)
same
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: phagist_ on December 18, 2008, 10:35:51 pm
Primary - Public definitely.

For secondary a private co-ed school.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: jess3254 on December 18, 2008, 10:41:57 pm
If I had a kid, ideally I'd send them to a small to medium size nurturing private school from prep onwards (if I had the money).
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: vcestar on December 18, 2008, 10:45:36 pm
I will send my kids to mao,shinny and costargh's tutoring services.

Commerce subjects= costargh

english= shinna

Maths/science= mao

........and my kids will be set for life.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: hard on December 18, 2008, 10:45:48 pm
Le Rosey, Château de Rosey in Rolle << not for me 75000 a year woooooot too kings schoool










no i can't afford it.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: kurrymuncher on December 18, 2008, 10:49:26 pm
Eton college, isnt that the best high school in the world or something?
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: hard on December 18, 2008, 11:22:57 pm
Eton college, isnt that the best high school in the world or something?
nah the one i said is. eton costs 55000 while this La bla blah school costs 75000 and has 10 tennis courts and building a 45 million dollar gym and sports centre.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: rh on December 18, 2008, 11:26:21 pm
boarding school

enid blyton really sold the idea
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: bubble sunglasses on December 19, 2008, 05:01:14 am
most likely send them/him/her to Switzerland and attend  Le Rosey, Château de Rosey in Rolle. google it if you don't know what it is.

 OMG I was just thinking of that particular school
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: hard on December 19, 2008, 12:35:41 pm
most likely send them/him/her to Switzerland and attend  Le Rosey, Château de Rosey in Rolle. google it if you don't know what it is.

 OMG I was just thinking of that particular school
LOL  sadly it's a dream that won't come true. Unless i'm making 10,000,000 a year.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: bridgethuss on December 19, 2008, 04:14:42 pm
co ed for sure. id want my kid to go to the school i went to, or ballarat grammar, i envy them!!
that is if i am in ballarat when im older!
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: gfb on December 19, 2008, 04:23:55 pm
Grade Prep to 2 - Public

2-12 - To the private school I used to go to :P.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: JL_91 on December 19, 2008, 07:49:21 pm
IF I have kids (fairly unlikely that I will want any):

Primary school - Camberwell Primary School, for the wonderful French immersion programme they have there (I wish I'd had the chance to do this!)

then...
7-12 - probably to my former school, CGS

OR

7-8 - VCASS (the Victorian College of Arts Secondary School, which I attended in Yr 7)
9-12 - MacRob/MHS
^ I swear that my friend's family is using this method to guarantee places at MacRob and MHS for all their 5 kids LOL!! So far my friend and her oldest brother have succeeded - 2 down, 3 to go haha. Not that they wouldn't have gotten in anyway, they're both smart - but I think it's very clever of their parents. Most people who go to VCASS are serious about staying there and becoming professional musicians/dancers etc., so basically no-one tries out for MacRob and MHS, which means guaranteed entry! :)

Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 19, 2008, 07:51:39 pm
^ I swear that my friend's family is using this method to guarantee places at MacRob and MHS for all their 5 kids LOL!! So far my friend and her oldest brother have succeeded - 2 down, 3 to go haha. I think it's very clever. Most people who go to VCASS are serious about staying there and becoming professional musicians/dancers etc., so basically no-one tries out for MacRob and MHS, which means guaranteed entry! :)

Ohhh... Nice ;)
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: JL_91 on December 19, 2008, 07:55:19 pm
^ I swear that my friend's family is using this method to guarantee places at MacRob and MHS for all their 5 kids LOL!! So far my friend and her oldest brother have succeeded - 2 down, 3 to go haha. I think it's very clever. Most people who go to VCASS are serious about staying there and becoming professional musicians/dancers etc., so basically no-one tries out for MacRob and MHS, which means guaranteed entry! :)

Ohhh... Nice ;)

Yep trust Asian parents to come up with smart tricks like that ;]
But as I said in my edit...I reckon they would have made it anyway, without using that method, because they're both smart. It's just about making SURE they get in lol!

*Edit: But of course, they have to start their kids on music lessons very early, since they need to audition into VCASS!
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: nickalaz on December 19, 2008, 08:03:59 pm
not an all boys school.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: vcestar on December 19, 2008, 08:17:22 pm
IF I have kids (fairly unlikely that I will want any):

Primary school - Camberwell Primary School, for the wonderful French immersion programme they have there (I wish I'd had the chance to do this!)

then...
7-12 - probably to my former school, CGS

OR

7-8 - VCASS (the Victorian College of Arts Secondary School, which I attended in Yr 7)
9-12 - MacRob/MHS
^ I swear that my friend's family is using this method to guarantee places at MacRob and MHS for all their 5 kids LOL!! So far my friend and her oldest brother have succeeded - 2 down, 3 to go haha. Not that they wouldn't have gotten in anyway, they're both smart - but I think it's very clever of their parents. Most people who go to VCASS are serious about staying there and becoming professional musicians/dancers etc., so basically no-one tries out for MacRob and MHS, which means guaranteed entry! :)



Wat do u mean guaranteed entry? You still have to finish in the top 300 out of 1500 kids. The only advantage is that theres no dodgy 3% rule.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: darlok on December 19, 2008, 08:41:43 pm
Prep-2 local primay school
3-6 Travel the world/home schooled
7-12 Up to them
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 19, 2008, 08:45:34 pm
Grade Prep to 2 - Public

2-12 - To the private school I used to go to :P.

Ohhh... I got the same ENTER as someone from a private school! :D
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Eriny on December 19, 2008, 09:59:24 pm
^ I think you're ENTER is higher than many people who went to private school.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: brendan on December 19, 2008, 10:02:33 pm
i wouldn't risk a public school during the primary years, particularly if the public school you have in mind is in a low-socioeconomic area.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 19, 2008, 10:02:41 pm
^ I think you're ENTER is higher than many people who went to private school.

Aww... You mean that? :'(... Well, I was 7th out of ~300 at my really bad public school. :D
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: squance on December 19, 2008, 10:05:14 pm
Grade Prep to 2 - Public

2-12 - To the private school I used to go to :P.

Ohhh... I got the same ENTER as someone from a private school! :D
And you probably bet 90% of the Year 12's at my old school :D :D 
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 19, 2008, 11:01:49 pm
Grade Prep to 2 - Public

2-12 - To the private school I used to go to :P.

Ohhh... I got the same ENTER as someone from a private school! :D
And you probably bet 90% of the Year 12's at my old school :D :D 

Is that something to be proud of? ;D
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: gfb on December 19, 2008, 11:05:25 pm
Grade Prep to 2 - Public

2-12 - To the private school I used to go to :P.

Ohhh... I got the same ENTER as someone from a private school! :D

Well at least my school focuses on discipline and all :P. Also, it was the 2nd year of Year 12 at my school (İn 2007) - so I do not think it's bad at all :D.

Choosing the best school should not only be based on ENTER. The school should distribute equal discipline and give students the necessary love and affection so that they can grow into independant and respectful individuals.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 19, 2008, 11:07:36 pm
Grade Prep to 2 - Public

2-12 - To the private school I used to go to :P.

Ohhh... I got the same ENTER as someone from a private school! :D

Well at least my school focuses on discipline and all :P. Also, it was the 2nd year of Year 12 at my school (İn 2007) - so I do not think it's bad at all :D.

Choosing the best school should not only be based on ENTER. The school should distribute equal discipline and give students the necessary love and affection so that they can grow into independant and respectful individuals.

I feel proud! ;D
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: humph on December 20, 2008, 12:46:46 am
Probably a public primary school, though like Brendan suggested, this would depend heavily on the socio-economic level of the suburb I'd be living. For high school, either a selective school or a decent private school that offers IB in yr11&12.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: brendan on December 20, 2008, 12:48:52 am
if i had the money it would be private school all the way, and then maybe MHS/MacRob for 9-12.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Eriny on December 20, 2008, 01:12:54 am
I find the aversion to public schools (or middle/low performing public schools) rather interesting. To risk sounding like I'm from Summer Heights High, they really aren't *that* bad. I think they tend to bring the middle performing kids down (while selective or good or private schools bring the middle performing kids up), the really good and really bad students don't seem all that affected (this is just anecdotal). That said, I think I would have valued more from being among high performing peers. I don't know if I would have actually done better, but I'd probably have a better insight into what it takes to be a *good* student.

But then, I'm still getting quite a bit of attention from my old school. It's like a distant relative or something. And I had very good relationships with my teachers who are still encouraging me to do my best, maybe partly because I wasn't competing with a bunch of other *good* students and therefore stood out. It would be interesting to find out if the things I was singled out for are actually commonplace in *better* schools, or if how the teachers assessed my abilities were correct. Going to a lower performing school makes me suspect the former.

So, in essence, I'm saying: I don't know.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 20, 2008, 09:22:52 pm
But then, I'm still getting quite a bit of attention from my old school. It's like a distant relative or something. And I had very good relationships with my teachers who are still encouraging me to do my best, maybe partly because I wasn't competing with a bunch of other *good* students and therefore stood out. It would be interesting to find out if the things I was singled out for are actually commonplace in *better* schools, or if how the teachers assessed my abilities were correct. Going to a lower performing school makes me suspect the former.

So, in essence, I'm saying: I don't know.

I agree with the former also. Coming from an underprivileged school had it's advantages. I became well known because of the amount of study I have done over my VCE; and I was the principal's favourite! I made him proud! :)... There were only 6 above me, so I think my achievement was well deserved for all the effort I put in and the fact that there weren't many like me made me feel 'special'.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: squance on December 20, 2008, 10:40:51 pm
Grade Prep to 2 - Public

2-12 - To the private school I used to go to :P.

Ohhh... I got the same ENTER as someone from a private school! :D
And you probably bet 90% of the Year 12's at my old school :D :D 

Is that something to be proud of? ;D

YES :D :D
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 20, 2008, 10:41:58 pm
Grade Prep to 2 - Public

2-12 - To the private school I used to go to :P.

Ohhh... I got the same ENTER as someone from a private school! :D
And you probably bet 90% of the Year 12's at my old school :D :D 

Is that something to be proud of? ;D

YES :D :D

Wow, I did do well then! :) (Public school FTW!)
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Tea4theTillerman on December 20, 2008, 10:57:19 pm
if i had the money it would be private school all the way, and then maybe MHS/MacRob for 9-12.
The thing is, once you are used to a school it is hard to change. If you've gone 2 years (7 and 8) at say a public school, it would be hard to leave all your friends behind and getting used to the system to start it all over again.

Whether you go to a private or public school doesn't matter in terms of your TER - what matters is the dedication you give towards your study.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 20, 2008, 10:57:59 pm
Whether you go to a private or public school doesn't matter in terms of your TER - what matters is the dedication you give towards your study.

Exactly!!!
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: chemboy on December 20, 2008, 11:29:18 pm
Probably a public primary school, though like Brendan suggested, this would depend heavily on the socio-economic level of the suburb I'd be living. For high school, either a selective school or a decent private school that offers IB in yr11&12.

Whats your obsession with IB? Like, whats so especially good about it compared to VCE?
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: humph on December 21, 2008, 01:33:19 am
Probably a public primary school, though like Brendan suggested, this would depend heavily on the socio-economic level of the suburb I'd be living. For high school, either a selective school or a decent private school that offers IB in yr11&12.

Whats your obsession with IB? Like, whats so especially good about it compared to VCE?
I just think it prepares you much better for university; there's a lot more independence. I find the subjects much more appealing too, but that's just personal preference. It's good how it tests (somewhat) how much of an all-rounder you are at school, not just your best subjects (this difference is most notable when you compare IB to something like English A-levels).

This is quite influenced by the fact that my older sister did the IB, and I personally completed the IB middle years program (but not the final two years; I did VCE instead).
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: brendan on December 21, 2008, 01:52:07 am
Whether you go to a private or public school doesn't matter in terms of your TER - what matters is the dedication you give towards your study.

Well 1000s of parents would disagree with you. If the school didn't matter, and all that mattered was your own dedication, why the need for a school or even a teacher?
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 21, 2008, 09:26:25 am
Whether you go to a private or public school doesn't matter in terms of your TER - what matters is the dedication you give towards your study.

Well 1000s of parents would disagree with you. If the school didn't matter, and all that mattered was your own dedication, why the need for a school or even a teacher?

I basically had no help from teachers, no interaction from students and other various misfortunes all throughout the year... And I still managed a quite decent ENTER... I got a self-made ENTER... School only matters if you want it to matter...
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: brendan on December 21, 2008, 12:05:53 pm
The fact of the matter is that it does matter, independent of the student's ability.

A study done by Australian Council for Educational Research and the Melbourne Institute for Applied Economic and Social Research found that:

When controlling for socioeconomic background and [Year 9] achievement in literacy and numeracy, the average ENTER score of independent and Catholic school students is 5 and 3 score points above that of government school students.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Odette. on December 21, 2008, 12:13:20 pm
The fact of the matter is that it does matter, independent of the student's ability.

A study done by Australian Council for Educational Research and the Melbourne Institute for Applied Economic and Social Research found that:

When controlling for socioeconomic background and [Year 9] achievement in literacy and numeracy, the average ENTER score of independent and Catholic school students is 5 and 3 score points above that of government school students.

Hmm I agree... It does matter which school you go to... Most students (not all) are at a level where they can do well if they're given a bit of a push... however if you don't attend a school which will encourage and support you throughout your schooling, then you'll end up with "ok" results... At some schools (especially mine) the school doesn't have the experience or resources to give those students the push they need to succeed...
Speaking from personal experience, had I attended another school, I would have definitely gotten a higher ENTER.


Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: AppleXY on December 21, 2008, 12:27:34 pm
i hate economics

thanks for the info :)
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: midas_touch on December 21, 2008, 02:10:23 pm
For me, it would either be a high quality government school or a private school, I'm not too fussed about whether its single sex or co-ed but the fact of the matter is I certainly don't want kids for a long long time yet :P
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Eriny on December 21, 2008, 04:20:46 pm
The fact of the matter is that it does matter, independent of the student's ability.

A study done by Australian Council for Educational Research and the Melbourne Institute for Applied Economic and Social Research found that:

When controlling for socioeconomic background and [Year 9] achievement in literacy and numeracy, the average ENTER score of independent and Catholic school students is 5 and 3 score points above that of government school students.
Did they control for other factors though? Like, how much parent's valued academic achievement, how much the students valued academic achievement, and those kinds of factors which don't relate to the school itself, but do relate to where the families might decide to be educated (for instance, a family that values academic achievement will probably be more likely to choose a school that has high results. The students who value academic achievement get good results because they want to do well, then when their scores are published, the next family that values academic achievement says 'oh yeah, that's obviously a good school, let's send out kids there.')

At my school, I noticed that exemplary levels of teacher-support was available to kids who chose to take it up (which was the minority). I would say that poorer performing schools would be more likely to have a culture which denigrated academics and to not have peer-to-peer implicit encouragement and competition to get good academic results. A student can overcome these things to access the full value of the teacher at any school - however, this is more difficult to do in an environment that, for instance, bullies or isolates academic students than in an environment that encourages academic achievement.

A question could be then, would you like to send your kid to a school where they have to try hard to be a good student, or to a school where 'good-studentism' is almost forced upon them? To me, it would depend more on the kid than anything else.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: brendan on December 21, 2008, 05:20:45 pm
A good part of why I stated my preference for private schools and then State selective for yr 9-12, has just as much to do with controlling the kind of people my child will associate and interact with, as it does with teaching quality. There are certain kinds of children concentrated in particular kinds of schools that I simply would not want my child to interact with.

The existence of accelerated programs (for example at UHS) might also be a factor.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 21, 2008, 07:31:38 pm
The fact of the matter is that it does matter, independent of the student's ability.

A study done by Australian Council for Educational Research and the Melbourne Institute for Applied Economic and Social Research found that:

When controlling for socioeconomic background and [Year 9] achievement in literacy and numeracy, the average ENTER score of independent and Catholic school students is 5 and 3 score points above that of government school students.

Hmm I agree... It does matter which school you go to... Most students (not all) are at a level where they can do well if they're given a bit of a push... however if you don't attend a school which will encourage and support you throughout your schooling, then you'll end up with "ok" results... At some schools (especially mine) the school doesn't have the experience or resources to give those students the push they need to succeed...
Speaking from personal experience, had I attended another school, I would have definitely gotten a higher ENTER.




I second your view, Odette. I had to fend for myself in high school, and if I was given the opportunity to do VCE anywhere else, I would guarantee myself a better ENTER score. :P (But oh well, I was still happy :))
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Eriny on December 21, 2008, 10:40:23 pm
A good part of why I stated my preference for private schools and then State selective for yr 9-12, has just as much to do with controlling the kind of people my child will associate and interact with, as it does with teaching quality. There are certain kinds of children concentrated in particular kinds of schools that I simply would not want my child to interact with.

The existence of accelerated programs (for example at UHS) might also be a factor.

I agree with that. I wonder if it's possible for schools themselves to create a culture of academic interest or if it is up to the students themselves to do it. It would be interesting to see a school take on that sort of challenge (and completely succeed).

My school kind of did. I was in the 'high achievers class' in year 7 and 8. Even though I don't think the students were all that remarkable, they were diligent enough and 'doing well' wasn't looked down upon because 'doing well' was why the class existed in the first place. The classes were actually focussed on the work rather than on discipline most of the time. However, I think this programme should have been carried through to VCE. Everything but English and Maths became electives in year 9, which was good in that we had flexibility, but bad in that numbers obviously meant that each class would be filled with students of greatly varying ability (apart from in English and Maths which were catered to different levels). Even though there were 'advanced' classes available in year 9 and 10, these were free for anybody to take, and the most disruptive classes I ever had were during those years - although some were better than others. Things were much better again in year 11 though, but through year 9 and 10, too many 'high achievers' were lost to the mediocre majority who viewed academics with distain.

But then I think, if those people failed to meet their potential, is that really the school's fault? Could it be their own fault for comprimising their diligence for momentary popularity amongst an obscure circle of individuals who were notorious for deliberately doing badly at school? Had they have been encircled in a culture of academic encouragement, would their hypothetical VCE sucess ultimately be a construction bound to fall at a later point in their lives when they no longer had such an environment?

Also, I don't know having not had any experience, but are there not some negative side effects of going to a selective school? I never really thought that until I saw those facebook groups called things like 'going to a selective school ruined my life'. I'd be interested to hear about the negative experiences of people who went to selective schools (if anyone actually has any).
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 21, 2008, 10:47:31 pm
Also, I don't know having not had any experience, but are there not some negative side effects of going to a selective school? I never really thought that until I saw those facebook groups called things like 'going to a selective school ruined my life'. I'd be interested to hear about the negative experiences of people who went to selective schools (if anyone actually has any).

Ohhh... That's interesting to hear. I would love to hear this and get some closure, coming from a public school! Hehe, that would be cool if my self-made ENTER beat some of those from a top-paying private school. XD
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Odette. on December 22, 2008, 09:56:36 am
Also, I don't know having not had any experience, but are there not some negative side effects of going to a selective school? I never really thought that until I saw those facebook groups called things like 'going to a selective school ruined my life'. I'd be interested to hear about the negative experiences of people who went to selective schools (if anyone actually has any).

Ohhh... That's interesting to hear. I would love to hear this and get some closure, coming from a public school! Hehe, that would be cool if my self-made ENTER beat some of those from a top-paying private school. XD

Well I guess the pressure that students would have to face due to their high-performing peers, I mean in those schools getting 85% on a test was a big shocker... (according to a friend of mine who went to Mac Rob). Some students may not be able to cope with such pressure that well, whilst others use it as motivation to do better.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: maybejustmaybe on December 22, 2008, 10:02:32 am
prep -y6 probably a public school
and yr7-12 probably my school, PEGS. i hated it like all hell from y7-10 but the yr11/12 was definitely worth it

also, i was wondering, what's everyone's reasons for doing public for primary then private? mine is so they realise the value of the money i'm spending on their damn education. kids who've gone public then private, from my experience, seem to value it a lot more and work harder. i don't know why.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Odette. on December 22, 2008, 02:45:07 pm
prep -y6 probably a public school
and yr7-12 probably my school, PEGS. i hated it like all hell from y7-10 but the yr11/12 was definitely worth it

also, i was wondering, what's everyone's reasons for doing public for primary then private? mine is so they realise the value of the money i'm spending on their damn education. kids who've gone public then private, from my experience, seem to value it a lot more and work harder. i don't know why.

That's probably why I'd choose public for primary as well :) They need to learn to appreciate things...
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Electioneering on December 22, 2008, 03:09:45 pm
to avoid sending your child to a lower performing public primary school, avoid living in a suburb that is on the lower end of the socio-economic scale..  ::) most of the people i went to primary school with went on to neighbouring private schools anyway.

if i ever had a child, i'd send him/her to a public primary school. s/he can wear shorts and sneakers everyday.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 22, 2008, 05:45:01 pm
if i ever had a child, i'd send him/her to a public primary school. s/he can wear shorts and sneakers everyday.

Grrr... I always got told off for wearing sneakers at school... And our school isn't even private. :S
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: kurrymuncher on December 22, 2008, 06:43:13 pm
homeschool ftw
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: phagist_ on December 22, 2008, 06:44:15 pm
homeschool ftw
seriously?
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: kurrymuncher on December 22, 2008, 06:45:02 pm
lol no :P
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 22, 2008, 06:51:39 pm
homeschool ftw
seriously?
+1... How would they learn to interact with others? They would probably be recluses in their own home not being exposed to others and developing essential skills needed to tackle everyday life... Homeschool FTL!!

EDIT: Grr... I said that for nothing. :P
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Electioneering on December 22, 2008, 07:33:54 pm
Grrr... I always got told off for wearing sneakers at school... And our school isn't even private. :S

wtf?!? haha, in primary school it was 'uncool' to wear black leather school shoes to school.

many years ago i met a girl who was homeschooled, and i asked her how she made friends. she got really defensive and told me she attended these special 'classes' once a week with other homeschooled people, and it was during those 'classes' that they were able to 'socialise' :\ idk it's weird
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: mtwtfss on December 22, 2008, 09:44:04 pm

Also, I don't know having not had any experience, but are there not some negative side effects of going to a selective school? I never really thought that until I saw those facebook groups called things like 'going to a selective school ruined my life'. I'd be interested to hear about the negative experiences of people who went to selective schools (if anyone actually has any).

Selective entry schools are amazing for some students, but definitely NOT all.

Going into year 12 next year, there is about 3 students that I know of who are leaving, to follow interests in hospitality x2 and media/arts x1.

These three students are the bravest out of the lot of us. They've identified within themselves that MHS isn't for them and have taken steps to achieve their ultimate dreams.

Having said that, select entry schools are an amazing environment. Everyone has something very special and unique to be proud of, and everyone is accepted for who they are, apart from the odd dickhead, but they (dickheads) end up losing all respect from the students and don't really count.

I've got friends who confess to 'hating MHS', but really they just dislike the academic pressure placed upon them, not by teachers but by their own peers (the reason why MHS/MacRob is so succesful). These kids love most other things about the select environment of the school and put up with the academic pressure from their peers.

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I'd want my kids to goto a semi-decent local public primary school and be exposed to the real world, and not closeted like some private schools who insist on students waiting in class to be picked up from school etc. Thats the biggest joke ever.

Year 7 and 8, most likely to a decent (or not) local public high school, again to gain life experience, learn how to handle themselves in different situations, be exposed to risks and overall become a better person.

Year 9-12, if they wanted to, for sure a select entry school, as the experience these offer is awesome. If they get into a select school, so be it, if not, then they probably don't deserve to be there in the first place and it would be a good thing that they got rejected if they really weren't smart enough to goto the school and be placed under the pressures involved with this.



Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: amyminchin on December 22, 2008, 09:44:44 pm
Co-ed. High achieving public school/private school- maybe my old school. :)
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: brendan on December 22, 2008, 10:17:26 pm
academic pressure placed upon them, not by teachers but by their own peers (the reason why MHS/MacRob is so succesful).

I don't recall anyone student(s) there explicitly "pressuring" me to do well academically. I think its more internal than anything else.  A lot of people tend to measure their self-worth in relative to other people in their immediate peer group, and when their immediate peer group becomes a group of highly able and ambitious boys, they feel they have to up the ante. In the end, people place the pressure on themselves to do well.

If there is anyone in MHS that hates it, they should immediately leave. They are just a waste of space at MHS. There are countless other people who will be very happy to take their place.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: mtwtfss on December 22, 2008, 10:36:59 pm
academic pressure placed upon them, not by teachers but by their own peers (the reason why MHS/MacRob is so succesful).

I don't recall anyone student(s) there explicitly "pressuring" me to do well academically. I think its more internal than anything else.  A lot of people tend to measure their self-worth in relative to other people in their immediate peer group, and when their immediate peer group becomes a group of highly able and ambitious boys, they feel they have to up the ante. In the end, people place the pressure on themselves to do well.

If there is anyone in MHS that hates it, they should immediately leave. They are just a waste of space at MHS. There are countless other people who will be very happy to take their place.

Internal pressure due to external factors.

Its not like kids say 'omg you have to do better'.

It's more something which isn't said but happens heaps, when students are coming up with great results consistently, everyone else is pressured to excel in themselves.

Especially in homo classes, kids are literally judged by how well they do on a test, if you get 67% on a test your the joke of the class.

Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: vce08 on December 22, 2008, 10:45:04 pm

Especially in homo classes, kids are literally judged by how well they do on a test, if you get 67% on a test your the joke of the class.


Very true
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Eriny on December 22, 2008, 11:08:53 pm
I think that some students don't necessarily like some school environments that are very good/competitive/prestigious suggests that there might not be such thing as a 'good' school or a 'bad' school, but certainly there are good and bad schools for certain students. The indicators remain the same, sure, but how much each individual will value each indicator can vary dramatically. Some might prefer a good sports program or a place that is socially diverse or one which doesn't pressure students into achieving certain things or may place equal value on hard work as it does results.

This is why it's difficult to say right now where I'd send any of my hypothetical children - I have no idea what they'd be like! I would be vaguely pleased if they were smart and I'd definitely encourage them to learn and do their best, but if they weren't and wanted paths different to mine, then it wouldn't really worry me and I'd support that. I think even the act of sending a child to private school places some pressure on them ('Look at how much I'm playing for you to be educated! You'd better make it worth while!') and I certainly wouldn't want to do that to a child who would be happier at the school down the street.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: chemboy on December 22, 2008, 11:11:52 pm

Especially in homo classes, kids are literally judged by how well they do on a test, if you get 67% on a test your the joke of the class.


Very true

Man thats a bitch, no kid should have to go through that.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: bubble sunglasses on December 22, 2008, 11:28:19 pm
I think that some students don't necessarily like some school environments that are very good/competitive/prestigious suggests that there might not be such thing as a 'good' school or a 'bad' school, but certainly there are good and bad schools for certain students. The indicators remain the same, sure, but how much each individual will value each indicator can vary dramatically. Some might prefer a good sports program or a place that is socially diverse or one which doesn't pressure students into achieving certain things or may place equal value on hard work as it does results.

This is why it's difficult to say right now where I'd send any of my hypothetical children - I have no idea what they'd be like! I would be vaguely pleased if they were smart and I'd definitely encourage them to learn and do their best, but if they weren't and wanted paths different to mine, then it wouldn't really worry me and I'd support that. I think even the act of sending a child to private school places some pressure on them ('Look at how much I'm playing for you to be educated! You'd better make it worth while!') and I certainly wouldn't want to do that to a child who would be happier at the school down the street.

1. Not neccesarily, you can be clear with your child what you want/ think would be good for them to get out of that school -a certain [not neccesarily high] standard of academic performance, having a good time, excelling in a co-curricular pursuit, trying out a wide range of activities, whatever.

 2. I agree. A few people voluntarily leave the private school I went to yrs7-start of yr11, to go to the local public school, which is decent academically and its *lack* of rules, protocol, extra stuff, is often the appeal.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: brendan on December 22, 2008, 11:52:05 pm

Especially in homo classes, kids are literally judged by how well they do on a test, if you get 67% on a test your the joke of the class.


Very true

Man thats a bitch, no kid should have to go through that.

MHS isn't for everyone. Some people simply do not belong there.

I prefer an environment where scoring 67% means your the joke of the class, rather than an environment where scoring 98% means you are the ostracized nerd of the class.

Internal pressure due to external factors.

I'm still adamant that is mainly internal. Why? Because it wouldn't matter so what other students were doing, if one didn't care so much about what other people were doing.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: bubble sunglasses on December 22, 2008, 11:54:20 pm

Especially in homo classes, kids are literally judged by how well they do on a test, if you get 67% on a test your the joke of the class.


Very true

Man thats a bitch, no kid should have to go through that.

MHS isn't for everyone. Some people simply do not belong there.

I prefer an environment where scoring 67% means your the joke of the class, rather than an environment where scoring 98% means you are the ostracized nerd of the class.
I'd like an environment with lots of positive pressure, s'pose negative pressure can have it's uses as well though
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Eriny on December 23, 2008, 01:15:05 am
Also, I don't know having not had any experience, but are there not some negative side effects of going to a selective school? I never really thought that until I saw those facebook groups called things like 'going to a selective school ruined my life'. I'd be interested to hear about the negative experiences of people who went to selective schools (if anyone actually has any).

Ohhh... That's interesting to hear. I would love to hear this and get some closure, coming from a public school! Hehe, that would be cool if my self-made ENTER beat some of those from a top-paying private school. XD
Going to a private school doesn't mean that you'll get a high ENTER score. The median study scores of those kinds of schools are usually still under 35, which means half of the study scores students got were less than 35. This is a really good average, but in terms of individual scores, it can still mean that lower ENTERs are possible, and indeed, people get ENTERs under what most people would expect after a million dollar education. At Eltham College for instance (I have a friend who went there), this year 66 students (out of 150 or so) got an ENTER over 80. So, many students would have gotten ENTERs under 80 (you just don't hear about them). The stats are really good for most private schools, but averages and top scores don't really give a total picture of what to expect.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 23, 2008, 09:28:36 am
Also, I don't know having not had any experience, but are there not some negative side effects of going to a selective school? I never really thought that until I saw those facebook groups called things like 'going to a selective school ruined my life'. I'd be interested to hear about the negative experiences of people who went to selective schools (if anyone actually has any).

Ohhh... That's interesting to hear. I would love to hear this and get some closure, coming from a public school! Hehe, that would be cool if my self-made ENTER beat some of those from a top-paying private school. XD
Going to a private school doesn't mean that you'll get a high ENTER score. The median study scores of those kinds of schools are usually still under 35, which means half of the study scores students got were less than 35. This is a really good average, but in terms of individual scores, it can still mean that lower ENTERs are possible, and indeed, people get ENTERs under what most people would expect after a million dollar education. At Eltham College for instance (I have a friend who went there), this year 66 students (out of 150 or so) got an ENTER over 80. So, many students would have gotten ENTERs under 80 (you just don't hear about them). The stats are really good for most private schools, but averages and top scores don't really give a total picture of what to expect.

That's very reassuring to hear. Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on December 23, 2008, 01:28:20 pm
^
Not to mention the entrance exams and costs it takes to get any child into those selective-entry schools. I guess people who care about their education will excel, irregardless of which selective or public school they attend.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Mao on December 23, 2008, 01:38:35 pm
^
Not to mention the entrance exams and costs it takes to get any child into those selective-entry schools. I guess people who care about their education will excel, irregardless of which selective or public school they attend.

I don't believe the fees at select entry schools are expensive, after all, they are still state schools.

But the latter is true, people who care about their education do excel. However, I must say that their potential often isn't reached, I know far too many people who would have performed much much better had they been in a more competitive environment.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: AQ on December 24, 2008, 05:49:49 am
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ı thınk ıts a great ıdea. though my gırlfrıend doesnt want to have kıds wıth me....
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Odette. on December 24, 2008, 07:37:05 am
^
Not to mention the entrance exams and costs it takes to get any child into those selective-entry schools. I guess people who care about their education will excel, irregardless of which selective or public school they attend.

I don't believe the fees at select entry schools are expensive, after all, they are still state schools.

But the latter is true, people who care about their education do excel. However, I must say that their potential often isn't reached, I know far too many people who would have performed much much better had they been in a more competitive environment.

I totally agree! If I were in a more competitive environment I would have pushed myself a little more... Oh well too late now... although I think now at VU it's not so competitive either, but at uni it's a whole new ball game :)
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: mtwtfss on December 24, 2008, 02:24:39 pm
^
Not to mention the entrance exams and costs it takes to get any child into those selective-entry schools. I guess people who care about their education will excel, irregardless of which selective or public school they attend.

MHS = Free ;)

They do ask for you to pay for fees (around the 2k mark), but they can't force you, it's a public school.

They also receive millions of dollars in donations from old boys which allow them to keep up with and often surpass private school standards.

The whole idea of MHS is that money doesn't and shouldn't buy education, everyone should have access to resources to excel etc.

It's probably a 40-60 split between students who come from public-private educations previously.

Plenty of kids at MHS don't care about VCE, they were good enough to get into the school, and should be allowed to stay as MHS and school is about 'more than just marks', and this view is shared by all people with a link to the school (apart from Asian parents?)

And as Mao said, so many kids don't live up to their potential and some clearly exceed how intelligent they really are with their ENTERs. For example plenty of students at MHS score say 90, if they were at your standard high school they would score say a 80, happens heaps. The environment is such, that it produces high scores consistently.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Odette. on December 24, 2008, 02:31:23 pm
I wonder what some of us would have gotten if we went to either MHS or Mac Rob :P

I have made my decision!

Primary-Public/Catholic school
Secondary- A selective school (Year 7 and 8, possibly send them to a private school, and if for some reason my children don't get into the selective school, I'll let them continue at the private school)

Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: bubble sunglasses on January 11, 2009, 11:04:14 pm
most likely send them/him/her to Switzerland and attend  Le Rosey, Château de Rosey in Rolle. google it if you don't know what it is.

 OMG I was just thinking of that particular school
LOL  sadly it's a dream that won't come true. Unless i'm making 10,000,000 a year.

 I'd still envy your children if they went here
  http://www.giggleswickschool.co.uk/
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: marbs on January 12, 2009, 12:21:38 am
For a guy = Definately Skeves or Xavier

For a girl = Loretto or Lauriston
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: Noblesse on January 12, 2009, 12:47:00 am
most likely send them/him/her to Switzerland and attend  Le Rosey, Château de Rosey in Rolle. google it if you don't know what it is.

 OMG I was just thinking of that particular school
LOL  sadly it's a dream that won't come true. Unless i'm making 10,000,000 a year.

 I'd still envy your children if they went here
  http://www.giggleswickschool.co.uk/

Giggleswick FTW! That is an awesome name!
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: hard on January 12, 2009, 12:48:04 am
hrmm i wanna send my boy to maybe cragieburn secondary and my daughter to broadmeadows community centre, then hopefully tell em to drop out and live on the doll so i can buy some VB>
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: AppleXY on January 12, 2009, 01:16:19 am
Quote from: brendan
I prefer an environment where scoring 67% means your the joke of the class, rather than an environment where scoring 98% means you are the ostracized nerd of the class.

Yup, that really sucks. I got 100% for my first spec SAC (I seriously do not what happened down the track to receive the study score that I got) and ye was portrayed as NERDZ.

But it feels good for some reason being the nerd, lol i dnno. :P
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: brendan on January 12, 2009, 11:36:09 pm
hrmm i wanna send my boy to maybe cragieburn secondary and my daughter to broadmeadows community centre, then hopefully tell em to drop out and live on the doll so i can buy some VB>

hahaha maybe throw in a few teenage pregnancies too
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: hard on January 12, 2009, 11:38:35 pm
hrmm i wanna send my boy to maybe cragieburn secondary and my daughter to broadmeadows community centre, then hopefully tell em to drop out and live on the doll so i can buy some VB>

hahaha maybe throw in a few teenage pregnancies too
that's a guaranteed part of the package, heck i can buy some crown largar with that money! 1 year money back if they don't get pregnant in their first year of high school.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: CBYS on February 03, 2009, 03:59:50 pm
Public school all the way. I was always public schooled, both here and in Malaysia, and i have a steadfast belief that the quality of teachers and schools, while important, is secondary to the determination of the student to get what he/she wants out of life.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: wombifat on February 03, 2009, 04:04:36 pm
to a co-ed school, probably a public school and hopefully nothing religious 
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: 24lover on February 03, 2009, 08:30:41 pm
^
Not to mention the entrance exams and costs it takes to get any child into those selective-entry schools. I guess people who care about their education will excel, irregardless of which selective or public school they attend.



MHS = Free ;)

They do ask for you to pay for fees (around the 2k mark), but they can't force you, it's a public school.

They also receive millions of dollars in donations from old boys which allow them to keep up with and often surpass private school standards.

The whole idea of MHS is that money doesn't and shouldn't buy education, everyone should have access to resources to excel etc.

It's probably a 40-60 split between students who come from public-private educations previously.

Plenty of kids at MHS don't care about VCE, they were good enough to get into the school, and should be allowed to stay as MHS and school is about 'more than just marks', and this view is shared by all people with a link to the school (apart from Asian parents?)

And as Mao said, so many kids don't live up to their potential and some clearly exceed how intelligent they really are with their ENTERs. For example plenty of students at MHS score say 90, if they were at your standard high school they would score say a 80, happens heaps. The environment is such, that it produces high scores consistently.





i've had very good friends who've went to school at mhs. some who don't bother so much with their studies and some who care a lot - but all found that they liked having a competitive atmosphere around them. I've also heard that quite a few of them find uni a big let down because the environment can be much more laid back (with the exceptions of med and such......lol)
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: wombifat on March 04, 2009, 08:31:23 pm
MHS seems a bit depressing to me.  It seems like a lot of students there struggle with all the pressure put on them. 
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: kurrymuncher on March 04, 2009, 08:42:01 pm
pressure motivates some people to do better
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on March 04, 2009, 10:02:29 pm
The pressure is not really put on them, it's really self imposed. If you want a high mark, you will put pressure on yourself to move up the ranks. If you don't care, you will feel no pressure.
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: appianway on March 15, 2009, 10:48:44 am
Some of the students at Mac.Rob and MHS place an unhealthy emphasis on the marks that they want to achieve, rather than the skills and benefits that they could gain out of high school. For instance, I've a friend who's aiming for commerce at Melbourne, but is spending hours and HOURS a day studying to attain a score of 99.5 or above. She's in year 11. Don't get me wrong - I have absolutely nothing against trying to get a great mark, but when it's not really needed and it comes at the expense of actually enjoying high school, well...

Granted, there are definitely students at Mac.Rob and MHS who don't harbour this mindset, but it's difficult to keep a healthy perspective on the VCE when a lot of your peers do.

Nonetheless, I'd still consider sending my kids to either Mac.Rob, MHS or VCASS... but only if they wanted to go!
Title: Re: Where will you send your children?
Post by: physics on April 05, 2009, 08:48:25 pm
Oh and another thing is it true that PEGs [Penleigh and Essendon Grammar] has same sex campuses for year 7-10 and co-ed for VCE?... Someone at that school told me...
Our school is liek that 4c!