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Title: motion
Post by: methodsboy on January 18, 2009, 05:21:16 pm: hey
is "frames of reference and the nature of space and time" still in the new study design?
cauz i looked at the new heinemann physics 12 textbook and it didnt have it in the motion chapter.
Title: Re: motion
Post by: methodsboy on January 18, 2009, 05:25:23 pm: + KARMA for anyone who can show me proof.
Title: Re: motion
Post by: lacoste on January 18, 2009, 05:28:37 pm: Even better, the study design, so you can look up anything and everything needed for the New Study Design in 09

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/physics/physicsindex.html
Title: Re: motion
Post by: dejan91 on January 22, 2009, 06:08:15 pm: Yes, I'm sure I've seen it somewhere in the book.

*2 miuntes later*
Yup I think what you're looking for is from pg. 187 onwards. It's under the 'Unit 3 Detailed Studies' chapter, so I'm guessing it's an optional chapter among two others.
Title: Re: motion
Post by: /0 on January 22, 2009, 06:15:55 pm: Yeah... that chapter also talks about relativity and $e=mc^2$ ...

bleargh... why must we do structures and materials :(
Title: Re: motion
Post by: methodsboy on January 22, 2009, 06:19:58 pm: Quote from: /0 on January 22, 2009, 06:15:55 pm
Yeah... that chapter also talks about relativity and $e=mc^2$ ...

bleargh... why must we do structures and materials :(
same, we're doing materials and structures major... so does that frames stuff apply to me?
Title: Re: motion
Post by: kurrymuncher on January 22, 2009, 06:23:24 pm: Quote from: methodsboy on January 22, 2009, 06:19:58 pm
Quote from: /0 on January 22, 2009, 06:15:55 pm
Yeah... that chapter also talks about relativity and $e=mc^2$ ...

bleargh... why must we do structures and materials :(
same, we're doing materials and structures major... so does that frames stuff apply to me?

I hope it does because that stuff is AWESOME!!!
Title: Re: motion
Post by: methodsboy on January 22, 2009, 06:23:57 pm: ^please, do u really want more pain this year???
Title: Re: motion
Post by: Mao on January 23, 2009, 11:27:25 pm: I believe you still have to do the frames of reference. It may sound intimidating, so here's the plain English version:

You are travelling east at 10km/h, another car is travelling west at 20km/h. What is your relative velocity?

if you can answer that, then you have covered that point in the SD.

As for the nature of space-time, just remember that so long as you are not going ridiculously fast, the Newtonian absolute space absolute time works pretty damn well.
Title: Re: motion
Post by: /0 on January 24, 2009, 12:05:19 am: non-inertial frames are nightmares though
Title: Re: motion
Post by: NE2000 on January 27, 2009, 09:35:58 am: If you're not doing the detailed study to do with Einstein's relativity then I don't think you have to know about frames of reference although as Mao said it's not really that hard to get your head around the frames of reference stuff in the motion part of the old study design.