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Archived Discussion => 2009 => VTAC Offers => Results Discussion => Victoria => Tertiary Admissions - Offers/Queries/Guidance => Topic started by: hard on January 20, 2009, 06:12:26 pm
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Can someone list the medicine and dental undergrad courses that do not require chemistry as a pre-req?
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Can someone list the medicine and dental undergrad courses that do not require chemistry as a pre-req?
Dont think there are any undergrad courses that link staright to med and dont have chem as a prereq.
You can do science or biomedical science, which doesnt require comoulsory chem and you can do med post grad from there.
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i think it's better if you just do chem.
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yeah, do chem just to try and pass the pre requisite score for the med degrees. Even with scaling, chem is pretty good.
Unless your certain that you can get 45+ in Bio, do Bio.
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mm i've kind've ruled out doing chem for now. which biomed courses don't require chem? is that melbourne uni or monash?
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mm i've kind've ruled out doing chem for now. which biomed courses don't require chem? is that melbourne uni or monash?
Not sure, you will have to look in the VTAC guide. You need atleast one science or maths methods. Something like that....
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mm i've kind've ruled out doing chem for now. which biomed courses don't require chem? is that melbourne uni or monash?
University of Melbourne biomedicine (source here)
Victorian Certificate of Education (VCE) Units 3 and 4
A study score of at least 25 in English/English Language/Literature or at least 30 in ESL, at least 35 in Chemistry and at least 25 in one of Biology, Mathematical Methods (either), Specialist Mathematics or Physics.
Monash University biomedical science (source here)
VCE prerequisites
Units 3 and 4-a study score of at least 35 in English (ESL) or 30 in any other English, a study score of at least 25 in chemistry and in one of physics, mathematical methods (either) or specialist mathematics.
So yeah, you definitely need to do chemistry for either of these two :( Check the VTAC guide for other unis though (not sure which ones offer biomed)
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^thanks for the info.
but FUCKING MELBOURNE UNI WANT A MIN 35 IN CHEMISTRY!!!! WTF ARE THEY NUTS!
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More stuff:
RMIT - Biomedical Science - bachelor of applied science - need chemistry, no particular study score requirement
Deakin - Biomedical Science (PDF brochure) - you'd be able to get into this one without chemistry, they need at least 20 in English and at least 20 in one of chem, biology or physics.
Swinburne - Science (Biomedical Science) - doesn't need chemistry at all, they only ask for at least 20 in English and at least 25 in Methods.
LaTrobe - Biomedical Science - "A minimum grade of 65% in Year 12 Chemistry."
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but are these biomedicine courses the same as melbourne's or monash? i mean could they get you into post grad medicine?
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I'm not totally sure on this, but Deakin offers a graduate medicine course and it's said in one of their brochures on their program that they select on the basis of GPA, GAMSAT and interview. It's also helpful if you come from a related/relevant area of study (like biomedical science). No idea if the biomedical science courses at those unis are anything similar to Melbourne or Monash, but in short, it seems like they could all get you into medicine in the end.
(I've heard of arts students getting into medicine before too, i.e. people who aren't even in science, though I'm not sure how common that is :))
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(I've heard of arts students getting into medicine before too, i.e. people who aren't even in science, though I'm not sure how common that is :))
It's quite hard because the GAMSAT has second year standard Chemistry and Biology, and VCEish level physics, so without some sort of background in these, you'll have to rely on self-study in such high level stuff. In regards to hard's original question, I definitely recall there being interstate Medicine courses which didn't require Chemistry as a pre-req. Try having a search around I guess.
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(I've heard of arts students getting into medicine before too, i.e. people who aren't even in science, though I'm not sure how common that is :))
It's quite hard because the GAMSAT has second year standard Chemistry and Biology, and VCEish level physics, so without some sort of background in these, you'll have to rely on self-study in such high level stuff. In regards to hard's original question, I definitely recall there being interstate Medicine courses which didn't require Chemistry as a pre-req. Try having a search around I guess.
ahkai i'll have a look around thanks.
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There aren't any undergrad dent/med courses in vic that don't require chem IIRC. A number of the interstate unis don't require chem, as shinny has said.
I dunno, DYOR. Don't see why you couldn't just do chem and avoid this whole hassle, though. Seriously, if you expect to get 30 raw in spesh you could definitely get 35 for chem.
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There aren't any undergrad dent/med courses in vic that don't require chem IIRC. A number of the interstate unis don't require chem, as shinny has said.
I dunno, DYOR. Don't see why you couldn't just do chem and avoid this whole hassle, though. Seriously, if you expect to get 30 raw in spesh you could definitely get 35 for chem.
it's not that i don't think i can get over 35, it's just that i don't want to be doing 5 subjects this year. So i'd presume that chemistry would be my lowest scoring subject out of the subs i'm doing this year, thus it is deserving to let it go. I am willing to move interstate but i just need to find the uni that offers such a course.
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You could drop bio and replace that with chem if you are going to stick to 4 subjects. Since chem is a more vital pre-req. Personally, i dont think doing one extra subject would harm you that much. espescially if you are going to spend the extra spare time just bludging. Also, if you are really keen on doing med you should definitely do chem, since it's a pre-req (remember what happend to costargh?)
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The following Medical courses do not require chemistry:
*Adelaide University MBBS
*New England joint MBBS
*Griffith University - Bachelor of Medical Science (MBBS Provisional Entry for School-Leavers)
*university of Queensland - MBBS provisional entry for school leavers
*University of New South Wales MBBS
*University of Western Australia MBBS
*University of Western Sydney MBBS
Undergraduate dental courses which do not require chemistry:
*La Trobe - Bachelor of Health Science/Master of Dentistry
*University of Queensland - Bachelor of dental science
*University of Adelaide - Bachelor of Dental Surgery
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if your interested in post grad med you can try doing it in gippsland. to get in you dont have to have done any particular course. just any undergraduate course and the gamsat. so if you really dont want to do chem, you could do any random science course to get you though and get you enough knowledge about chem to pass the gamsat. and even then it doesnt have to be a science course, you could do an arts degree and perhaps learn some chem principles in your own time. anyway enough of my rambling.
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thanksssssssssssss jessie0 you're a gun!