ATAR Notes: Forum

VCE Stuff => VCE Mathematics => VCE Mathematics/Science/Technology => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Mathematical Methods CAS => Topic started by: Hielly on March 14, 2009, 09:24:01 am

Title: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Hielly on March 14, 2009, 09:24:01 am
heys need help on this question first

1.Use a CAS calculator to help answer the following questions.
A pole 11 metres high is firmly secured to the ground. A parabolic arch is to be
attached to the pole 3 metres above the ground as shown in the diagram below. A
metal rod will run directly from the top of the pole straight to the ground so that it just
touches the arch in one position only. Let y be the height above the ground in metres
and x be the distance along the ground from the foot of the pole in metres.

a)The arch is to be modelled by the quadratic equation y = -1/8x^2 + a/4x +3 , where a
is a non-zero positive constant. Find where the arch meets the ground in terms of
a, that is, find the x-intercept.

so we're trying to find A, the x point? not sure what to do

view attachment for picture

Thanks

edit: y=-1/8x^2 + a/4x +3
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Hielly on March 14, 2009, 09:49:26 am
ohh okay i was wondering if its possible to find A by hand?
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: d0minicz on March 14, 2009, 09:56:07 am
use the quadratic formula and plug in the equation
you then use the positive solution
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Hielly on March 14, 2009, 10:01:34 am
i used the quadratic formula using a=-1/8 b=a/4 c=3 and it came out really messy
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Damo17 on March 14, 2009, 10:14:46 am
i used the quadratic formula using a=-1/8 b=a/4 c=3 and it came out really messy

How did you get them values for a and b?
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Hielly on March 14, 2009, 10:17:17 am
oh woops the equation is meant to be y=-1/8x^2 + a/4x +3 ==" i copied and pasted it from the pdf.. without noticing that it didnt copy fractions. sigh
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: d0minicz on March 14, 2009, 10:18:44 am
y = – x^2 + x + 3, where a
is a non-zero positive constant.

does that mean theres supposed to be an a in the quadratic equation?
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: TrueTears on March 14, 2009, 10:25:50 am
y = – x^2 + x + 3, where a
is a non-zero positive constant.

does that mean theres supposed to be an a in the quadratic equation?
think hielly just edited her post :)
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: d0minicz on March 14, 2009, 10:30:49 am
ooo yeah my bad lol
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Damo17 on March 14, 2009, 10:33:18 am
what is the answer?
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Hielly on March 14, 2009, 10:33:39 am
okay so by using quadratic formula to solve it it came out with very small numbers, not sure if im correct though

answer is x=a + square root a^2 +25
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Damo17 on March 14, 2009, 10:45:16 am
I get
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Hielly on March 14, 2009, 10:51:47 am
how did you get the answer damo ?
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Damo17 on March 14, 2009, 11:04:43 am
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee101/stifla_2007/IMG_0001-1.jpg)

Sorry for it being messy.
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Hielly on March 14, 2009, 11:11:27 am
okay one question how did the a^2 +24 / 16 turn into a^2 +24/4.,

sorry i have never encountered so many fractions while doing the quadratic formula
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Damo17 on March 14, 2009, 11:20:00 am






Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: TrueTears on March 14, 2009, 11:25:50 am








2nd step is incorrect, you can't split up the surd. Although you did get the correct answer the working should be this:





Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Damo17 on March 14, 2009, 11:49:56 am








2nd step is incorrect, you can't split up the surd. Although you did get the correct answer the working should be this:







Yeah, always small errors. Thanks
Title: Re: quadratic functions: various questions
Post by: Hielly on March 14, 2009, 12:45:44 pm
thnks guys for part the same question.
if the equation of the metal rod is modeled by the linear function y=11+bx, find the value of b