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Title: psychodynamic model?
Post by: nathhan. on November 06, 2011, 02:56:28 pm
can anybody explain the psychodynamic model, does it only relate to phobias?
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Post by: ProtonStar on November 06, 2011, 03:13:17 pm
Well I'm quite sure it's only related to phobias in this study design. Well without going into 'Freudian' detail, the Psychodynamic Model is based on the assumption that all mental disorders are caused by unresolved psychological conflicts that occur in the unconscious part of the mind.

The key words here are 'unresolved psychological conflicts' and 'unconscious'.

Hope I helped :)
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Post by: spikey on November 06, 2011, 03:20:34 pm
-The psychodynamic model assumes that all mental disorders are caused by unresolved psychological conflicts that occur in the unconscious part of the mind.
-It explains phobias as originating from early childhood experiences where our urges clash with what is 'acceptable'.

And then to go into more detail, it explains phobias having developed as a result of using the 'displacement' defence mechanism to cope with anxiety from the Oedipal complex (which is where you have a desire towards your mother lol).
So basically when you use displacement, the anxiety caused by the stimulus of the oedipal complex is shifted to another stimulus which becomes your phobic stimulus.

Sooooo, if a boy had a strong desire for his mother, he would be like "oh shit this is so weird, what happens if my dad finds out and bashes me" hence causing anxiety. So he moves this anxiety onto say, a spider, and creating arachnophobia. (You can also say that spiders resemble the father, hairy legs = hairy spider haha)
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Post by: spikey on November 06, 2011, 03:21:05 pm
But i doubt you need to go into that much detail, i think the main idea is the first definition of it
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Post by: dh1993 on November 06, 2011, 04:29:59 pm
we have to apply it to both mental illness and phobias. Its same concept for both but its a bit different, like for phobias eg. it'll say because of sexual love for their mother that an unconscious conflict is with their father, so they displace this fear into an object, hence phobia of specific things. While in depression for eg, its not so much conflict from the father its the agression thats felt for other people that are driven
"inwards" and are punishing themselves for it. and contributes to depression.

haha long story short, same theory but different parts for each.
Title: Re: psychodynamic model?
Post by: dh1993 on November 06, 2011, 04:30:27 pm
Just realised someone else has already explained it above lol
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Post by: REBORN on November 06, 2011, 04:32:09 pm
It'll only be asked in reference to Phobias.
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Post by: dh1993 on November 06, 2011, 04:46:00 pm
are you sure? :\ I hope its only for phobias cos i find that easier. depression annoys me its even hard to understand CBT for it compared to CBT for phobias. fml
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Post by: Analog on November 06, 2011, 04:47:53 pm
It'll only be asked in reference to Phobias.

pretty sure psychodynamic psychotherapy is applicable to major depression too.
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Post by: dh1993 on November 06, 2011, 04:53:16 pm
yeah it definetly is, but maybe its not applicable to gambling or schizophrenia so theres less chance of them asking for it? dunno.
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Post by: REBORN on November 06, 2011, 04:56:12 pm
It'll only be asked in reference to Phobias.

pretty sure psychodynamic psychotherapy is applicable to major depression too.
Psychodynamic model....is different to psychodynamic psychotherapy
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Post by: dh1993 on November 06, 2011, 04:59:52 pm
yeah they're different but the psychotherapy is the management of depression using the Model. Its like applying the model for therapy, which is seen in depression too. Ive studied for phobias and depression just incase they do ask :S
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Post by: REBORN on November 06, 2011, 05:01:21 pm
You're not understanding the distinction.

The focus for phobia is the onset of the phobia using the model; the focus for depression is the management of the depression using the therapy. That is they are more likely to focus on the therapy part rather than the model basis (caused by unconscious griefs over losses)
Title: Re: psychodynamic model?
Post by: dh1993 on November 06, 2011, 05:05:25 pm
Yeah I get what you're saying?

But if the textbooks etc have the ONSET of depression as well as the therapy then I wouldn't rule out them asking it. Yeah maybe less likely but I don't see why they wouldn't. Same with Phobias, yeah the onset might be the "focus" but what's stopping them asking us how they manage it too?
Title: Re: psychodynamic model?
Post by: Analog on November 06, 2011, 05:10:36 pm
his question was does it only relate to phobia...but it also relates to major depression.
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Post by: REBORN on November 06, 2011, 05:24:44 pm
Yeah I get what you're saying?

But if the textbooks etc have the ONSET of depression as well as the therapy then I wouldn't rule out them asking it. Yeah maybe less likely but I don't see why they wouldn't. Same with Phobias, yeah the onset might be the "focus" but what's stopping them asking us how they manage it too?
What? :S  ...how do you manage phobias using the psychodynamic model? Never heard of this...
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Post by: dh1993 on November 06, 2011, 06:46:41 pm
from my text book (psych notes) "psychodynamic psychotherapy assists patients to become more aware of the symbolic natue of their phobia and to explore traumatic past events in order to resolve their unconscious conflict"
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Post by: agro on November 06, 2011, 06:48:26 pm
isnt it stuff like free association, dream therapy, omnipotence etc?
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Post by: dh1993 on November 06, 2011, 06:50:35 pm
um yep :) I know those ones are for depression but ill check if they do that for phobia too
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Post by: agro on November 06, 2011, 06:51:20 pm
yeah, I'm pretty sure they are, what text book are you using?
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Post by: agro on November 06, 2011, 06:53:05 pm
my bad, they're listed in my text book under Psychodynamic psychotherapy but in relation to treating gambling problems
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Post by: dh1993 on November 06, 2011, 06:53:33 pm
im using that purple book from Grivas I think? but The one I have next to me is this revision book "psych notes" by Peter Milesi though
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Post by: dh1993 on November 06, 2011, 06:54:11 pm
ohh gambling? fair enough, gambling seems hard.
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Post by: agro on November 06, 2011, 06:59:51 pm
yeah I've got the purple Grivas, and it only mentions psychodynamic psychotherapy under how to deal with depression and gambling, not phobias.
Ive got that Psych Notes book too, I found the unit 3 version of it too be quite helpful. This unit 4 skimmed over important information and elaborated on stuff that doesnt really need to be elaborated on.
gambling's actually quite simple and doesnt have as much content as say depression or schizophrenia, I'm glad the school chose it :)
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Post by: dh1993 on November 06, 2011, 07:18:16 pm
ohh really? thats really stupid that both have different things, and I agree! Unit 3 psych notes was awesome but this one.. I dont trust it much. I have to use both books at the same time to learn properly lol.

thats good! If it works for you then you're all good :) Depression is kinda simple, schizophrenia would be the most interesting but I think itd be the most complicated at the same time. Im freaking out for this exam now :\ I really want A+ again but its harder this time since we have other subjects arggh
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Post by: agro on November 06, 2011, 07:20:18 pm
yeah end of years are the worst.
I had English on thursday, maths on friday, maths and psych on monday, politics on tuesday, australian history on wednesday
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Post by: dh1993 on November 06, 2011, 08:25:58 pm
argh yeah thats shit. I had english and ive got maths aswell lol which im not studying for cos its definetly going to be a 10% subject, ive got eco in a couple days but then business management a whole 8 days after that :P