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Title: Cohort
Post by: smithy16 on November 07, 2011, 07:36:37 pm
Can someone explain to me how much the strength of your cohort affects your study score. Especially if the cohort was weak.
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: Natters on November 07, 2011, 07:58:05 pm
basically, your sacs rank you against people in your cohort
so, say your ranked 5th/20 in a school of high achievers who all aim for 35+ (strong cohort)
that is better than being ranked second in a cohort of people who dont care about the subject as long as they pass(weak cohort)

vcaa will recognise that getting a higher rank amongst smarter students is more difficult, and will scale the results accordingly
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: smithy16 on November 07, 2011, 10:40:07 pm
But if you get a high rank (top 3 in the cohort for example) in a weak cohort, it won't matter?
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: Natters on November 07, 2011, 10:54:09 pm
if you get number 1 it doesnt matter
if you get anything other than that it does
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: Tomanomanous on November 07, 2011, 10:57:22 pm
Quote from: Natters on November 07, 2011, 10:54:09 pm
if you get number 1 it doesnt matter
if you get anything other than that it does

So my results are probably going to be affected because a lot of other people in my class hardly tried in the subject?

Oh marmalade :(
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: Natters on November 07, 2011, 11:12:36 pm
yup, unluck
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: smithy16 on November 07, 2011, 11:56:25 pm
Not even second highest?
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: Natters on November 08, 2011, 12:43:15 pm
theyre not like "oh you got second highest, close enough, we'll count that as highest" it's second, it says your not as good as the guys whos first :\
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: iloveschool on November 08, 2011, 12:47:29 pm
just confirming, if im rank 1st in a really weak cohert and i average 92% on sacs, 36/40 exam 1 and 57/60 exam 2 what would i be looking at? thanks
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: Natters on November 08, 2011, 01:36:24 pm
44
ranked first in a weak is the same as ranked first in a strong btw
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: Deank on November 08, 2011, 02:28:20 pm
So being ranked 2nd or 3rd instead of 1st, how much does that really affect your score?
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: Natters on November 08, 2011, 02:42:33 pm
a fair bit
im ranked ~6th with 96/100 for the year and it will probs fuck me over tbh
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: iloveschool on November 08, 2011, 03:05:06 pm
thanks natters just hoping that my estimates are correct haha. that would be unscaled too yea?
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: Natters on November 08, 2011, 04:37:42 pm
yeah it would go down to a 43
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: iloveschool on November 08, 2011, 05:41:33 pm
ahh okay thanks :)
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: Hodgeyhodgey on November 08, 2011, 07:04:00 pm
Quote from: Deank on November 08, 2011, 02:28:20 pm
So being ranked 2nd or 3rd instead of 1st, how much does that really affect your score?
The only time it will affect your score is if the people above you do not as well as expected on the exam. If they do well, then great! Just do your best and it probably won't affect you but if they flunk, then prepare for a beat down from VCAA.
Title: Re: Cohort
Post by: tommy17 on November 11, 2011, 10:44:07 am
Quote from: Natters on November 08, 2011, 02:42:33 pm
a fair bit
im ranked ~6th with 96/100 for the year and it will probs fuck me over tbh

I doubt that it will screw you over if your ranked 6th with 96/100 because your obviously in a very strong cohort and there is going to be very high marks probably above yours in the exam. You would only get screwed over if you had a score that was mid A or under and your definitely higher then that