ATAR Notes: Forum
Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: liuetenant on January 23, 2012, 09:04:45 pm
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For hypothetical reasons....of course..
Like you don't like it, or you know you're going to fail dismally etc etc :D
And can you then just pick up another course..(of course, also having to catch up)
Or do you must have to wait until mid year and apply through VTAC?
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Technically, you can drop out of your course any time. There's no stopping you. I could do it right now if I wanted to. It really depends when you withdraw from your course and if it's pass the census dates, then you'll still have to pay for the subject(s), or "financially liable" as they call it.
Back to the original question, if you pull out in the first couple of weeks, you'll have to wait a whole semester before commencing a new course.
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would you be guranteed a spot i your new course? see i might drop out of commerce and jump into science... of course, ill probs stick it out for the entire semester though...
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If it's mid year transfer from B.Com to B.Sci at UoM, then you will have a high chance of getting in since they'll most likely look at your ATAR.
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when transferring internally, how much weight is put on your uni grades in semester 1 vs. your atar?
also, is there a limited quota in transferring? as in, do one have to hope that someone drops out of their desired course in order for them to free a space and get in or is it sort of guaranteed if good grades + atar higher than clearly in?
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YES.
mid year, it's predominately your atar they look at, not to mention, if there are any drop outs. But during mid-ear, the number of spaces is really restricted, so it might be unlikely to got a spot.
end of year, there would be more spaces, but at this point, they look at your grades...more so than your atar. knowing me, i'm going to suffer in my first year in uni, so im relying heavily on my atar to get me through!
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But during mid-ear, the number of spaces is really restricted, so it might be unlikely to got a spot.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-.
so, do they actually rank people who want to transfer by their atars and then move them to their intended courses?
say, 5 people drop out from commerce, do they take the top 5 atars of those who want to get into commerce from all first year degrees and place them in?
this is seeming really bleak to me as well actually, despite decent atar.
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:O you might have a chance...at least compared to me!
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They look at both your atar and uni marks together.
If you get below the clearly-in atar (ie. 95.45 for commerce) then you'll have to have higher uni marks to 'bring up' and compensate for your atar.
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:O you might have a chance...at least compared to me!
i'm transferring to commerce though, not science. and because you're dropping out you may actually be helping me to get a spot. :P
also, the difference between your atar to the science clearly-in is higher than the difference from my atar to the commerce clearly-in. i don't know if this makes a difference or i'm just being really pedantic.
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If you're transferring to Commerce, why didn't you do a 'irregular offer'? You're ATAR is above the clearly in and you might've been offered a spot depending on vacancies. I don't know whether you still can however, but it would probably be good to look into.
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Just a question..if i do decide to drop out and i start a different course, i have to start as though i'm a first year, correct? However, it might not be a "full" year, because i may have done some subjects which can be cross-credited across the degree correct?
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If you're transferring to Commerce, why didn't you do a 'irregular offer'? You're ATAR is above the clearly in and you might've been offered a spot depending on vacancies. I don't know whether you still can however, but it would probably be good to look into.
I didn't do methods, that's why. completing the equivalent during semester 1 in arts.
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Just a question..if i do decide to drop out and i start a different course, i have to start as though i'm a first year, correct? However, it might not be a "full" year, because i may have done some subjects which can be cross-credited across the degree correct?
Yeah that's right. If you change courses within the same uni then chances are you will be able to credit all 4 subjects from first semester.
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alll 4? wow..but i dont think so. commerce and science first semester subjects are different...so i'm not sure if you can cross-credit them though...it would be awesome though :D
reckon there's a high chance i could transfer midyear from commerce to science with 95.5 atar? :D
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alll 4? wow..but i dont think so. commerce and science first semester subjects are different...so i'm not sure if you can cross-credit them though...it would be awesome though :D
reckon there's a high chance i could transfer midyear from commerce to science with 95.5 atar? :D
If you want to, you can probably credit science subjects as breadth. If you got 95.5 then I'm pretty sure you will be able to transfer, since the science requirement was like 90 something. Anyway, if you are planning on doing science, it may be a good idea to do 2-3 science subjects this first semester (you'd put them under breadth for now).
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i was planning to do a diploma:
So it might look like this, assuming that this structure can be done in Comm? (i hope so)
COMM SUBJECT--Introductory Microeconomics,
COMM SUBJECT--Principles of Marketing,
BREADTH SUBJECT--in science
DIPLOMA SUBJECT--in jap
And then, from Semester 2, if i apply for transfer:
i was planning to do a diploma:
So it might look like this, assuming that this structure can be taken as well in science: (again, i hope so)
Introductory Microeconomics--->will be breadth
Principles of Marketing--->will be breadth
BREADTH SUBJECT--in science--->will be core
DIPLOMA SUBJECT--in jap---?will be diploma
so i would just have to catch up on 1 other core subject in science from semester 1...
Thus, as the 3rd semester comes rolling through, i would just need to catch up on THREE core subjects...rather than having to do two core, 1 breadth, 1 diploma in this semester...
LOL
get me? haha.
Is this possible? Let me know if im confusing!
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i was planning to do a diploma:
So it might look like this, assuming that this structure can be done in Comm? (i hope so)
COMM SUBJECT--Introductory Microeconomics,
COMM SUBJECT--Principles of Marketing,
BREADTH SUBJECT--in science
DIPLOMA SUBJECT--in jap
And then, from Semester 2, if i apply for transfer:
i was planning to do a diploma:
So it might look like this, assuming that this structure can be taken as well in science: (again, i hope so)
Introductory Microeconomics--->will be breadth
Principles of Marketing--->will be breadth
BREADTH SUBJECT--in science--->will be core
DIPLOMA SUBJECT--in jap---?will be diploma
so i would just have to catch up on 1 other core subject in science from semester 1...
Thus, as the 3rd semester comes rolling through, i would just need to catch up on THREE core subjects...rather than having to do two core, 1 breadth, 1 diploma in this semester...
LOL
get me? haha.
Is this possible? Let me know if im confusing!
Very possible, although it sounds like you want to do the full 400 points for your bachelors+diploma? Those who choose to do 350 points will do their diploma subjects as their breadth in the first year or two.
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yeah...full 400 points. that way i could at least cross credit some stuff? without diploma..i wouldn't be able to cross credit anything..and then i really will have to end up in first year again. i hope there is no disadvantage in doing 400point program...i don't mind the breadth at all, in fact, i'd prefer it. therefore, i'm happy keeping it there for enjoyment/enrichment's sake.
So defs 400 points.
Ill take this proposed structure to the comm guys on friday or something..confirm..and PRAY that it works!
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I thought you could only choose to apply for dip.lang after finishing first year? Or at least, this is recommended?
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yes. reccomended...but i would do it in first year...perhaps...im not so sure yet. which is why i might go to commerce peeps for help
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yes. reccomended...but i would do it in first year...perhaps...im not so sure yet. which is why i might go to commerce peeps for help
If that's the case I'm pretty sure you have to apply like now. Applications for diploma close at the end of january I believe... Not sure if you can still 'insert' the subject into your diploma if you apply later in the year/next year though.
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yes, i'm aware of it. diplang closes at 31st jan. but im not sure if it'll even work..
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it's recommended for students to apply for diplang after a year of uni. does that mean we are meant to take the language as breadth in our first year? if not, are the credits transferrable even if we do?
still quite confused as to how diplang works.
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it's recommended for students to apply for diplang after a year of uni. does that mean we are meant to take the language as breadth in our first year? if not, are the credits transferrable even if we do?
still quite confused as to how diplang works.
You would only apply in first year if you want to complete 400 points and NOT cross-credit anything. If you dont apply in first year, then you will do your diploma subjects as breadth. The problem with this is once you complete them, they are forever in your main degree, you cannot remove them. So the best thing you can do after that is crosscredit them to your diploma, but you can never actually remove these subjects to do the full 400.
So to put simply: if you do them in breadth, you cannot do 400 points. If you apply in first year, then you do NOT do them in breadth.