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Title: Tension force intuition
Post by: rife168 on February 04, 2012, 01:03:58 pm
Would someone be able to explain the tension force in connected body problems and how to calculate it?
I know that there is a simple formula for it but I need an intuitive way to think about the problem before blindly plugging in values.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Tension force intuition
Post by: Phy124 on February 04, 2012, 03:43:20 pm
Tension is usually the force responsible for pulling the body forward. So to calculate it you re-arrange the formula of Fnet = forces one way - forces the other way (where tension, will be one of the forces)

So in some cases you might have:

Fnet = T - Fr

As the force of T is forwards and the frictional force (Fr) is backward.

In a case, where, say a ball is being held by a wire from the roof then:

Fnet = Fg - T

As the force of T is upwards and the gravitational force (Fg) is downwards.

In a case where you are given the acceleration of the body and it's mass, then:

T = ma (where m = the total mass that that the wire is pulling)

There are various types of questions involving tension so if you provide a more narrow range of questions I'll be able to offer more help.
Title: Re: Tension force intuition
Post by: rife168 on February 04, 2012, 04:21:57 pm
How about questions with 2 masses connected by some sort of rope/wire that passes over a pulley, where both bodies are free to move vertically?
Title: Re: Tension force intuition
Post by: Phy124 on February 04, 2012, 04:40:56 pm
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Let's say, in this case, m1 > m2

Therefore m1g > m2g and for this reason m1 will accelerate down and m2 will accelerate up

So on the left:

Fnet = Fg - T = m1a

or Fnet = m1g - T = m1a

on the right:

Fnet = T -  Fg = m2a

or Fnet = T - m2g = m2a

edit: I can also give explanation of finding a for the above if needed

edit2: I've found this which might offer better explanations and working out than I can offer.
Title: Re: Tension force intuition
Post by: rife168 on February 04, 2012, 04:48:41 pm
Thanks! That helps a lot. I just needed to clear up that the forces m1g>T>m2g