ATAR Notes: Forum

VCE Stuff => VCE Science => VCE Mathematics/Science/Technology => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Chemistry => Topic started by: thushan on June 15, 2012, 08:51:45 pm

Title: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: thushan on June 15, 2012, 08:51:45 pm
Nisha here has an idea that we should run weekly tutorials for ATARnotes Chemistry. Every Saturday night, we can gather in a thread entitled "Tutorial n" where n is a positive integer :P and one of us can explain stuff and then a discussion ensues. I can fire questions at you guys off my resources. How's that?

Vote YES on the poll if you count yourself in!

If enough people vote YES then I'll start organising dates!
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: pi on June 15, 2012, 08:55:13 pm
Tempted to delete poll :P
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: thushan on June 15, 2012, 08:56:42 pm
Tempted to delete poll :P

Nah dont. It's meant to be a counter. Couldn't do a poll with one option, so had to do two 'yes''
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: pi on June 15, 2012, 09:01:46 pm
HMMMM, still tempted :P
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Jenny_2108 on June 15, 2012, 09:06:04 pm
Lets do it tomorrow :)
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: thushan on June 15, 2012, 09:08:09 pm
HMMMM, still tempted :P

I'm on it! OK. So we'll have a short briefing tomorrow? What time? I finish tutoring at 7 pm, so how about 7:30 pm?
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: paulsterio on June 15, 2012, 10:09:58 pm
How's this going to work Thush?
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Truck on June 15, 2012, 10:12:11 pm
Saturday night? Really? I mean I would love to soak in your knowledge Thushan, but unfortunately I like many other members, do have a life :(. What about Sunday nights?
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Jenny_2108 on June 15, 2012, 10:18:42 pm
I prefer Sat night because Sunday is near schoolday
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: thushan on June 15, 2012, 10:31:12 pm
How's this going to work Thush?

Play it by ear.
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Phy124 on June 15, 2012, 10:34:16 pm
Saturday night? Really? I mean I would love to soak in your knowledge Thushan, but unfortunately I like many other members, do have a life :(. What about Sunday nights?
Gotta make sacrifices in year 12 brah ;)
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: thushan on June 15, 2012, 10:40:25 pm
Saturday night? Really? I mean I would love to soak in your knowledge Thushan, but unfortunately I like many other members, do have a life :(. What about Sunday nights?

Damnit. Can't satisfy everyone man...!
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Mr. Study on June 15, 2012, 10:45:05 pm
Why not IRC?
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: thushan on June 15, 2012, 10:55:51 pm
Why not IRC?

Now THAT's an idea.
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: pi on June 15, 2012, 10:57:07 pm
Why not IRC?

Trolls, at least mods can keep control of things here. Just my opinion though.
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: thushan on June 15, 2012, 11:01:00 pm
Why not IRC?

Trolls, at least mods can keep control of things here. Just my opinion though.

True. Ergh. Stupid trolls. Beasts with big horns that live under a bridge. Damn them.
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: paulsterio on June 15, 2012, 11:31:07 pm
podcasts/vodcasts? might work :P
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: ligands on June 15, 2012, 11:38:59 pm
You could have a channel on irc and ban any trolls that join
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: pi on June 15, 2012, 11:41:47 pm
You could have a channel on irc and ban any trolls that join

Yeah, but then all these randoms could join and clam up the conversations, it'd just be easier if it weren't IRC i think. IRC always goes off topic haha, no matter how many "mods" (wrong word) you have to kick people.
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: ligands on June 15, 2012, 11:44:19 pm
Weekly skype/cam seshs ;)
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Kanon on June 16, 2012, 12:34:08 am
Would absolutely love to Thushan! :)

In regards to IRC, it is possible to set up permissions to that only certain people can speak.  If that makes anything easier :)
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Soul_Khan on June 16, 2012, 12:37:15 am
Why not post the tutorials on YouTube so that the whole VCE community would benefit from it? Like KhanAcademy for VCE Chemistry if it's possible. I'm pretty sure a lot of people will benefit from it, you can also put the AN logo in the tutorials and promote AN there so more traffic will come here. :)
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: ligands on June 16, 2012, 12:38:18 am
Why not post the tutorials on YouTube so that the whole VCE community would benefit from it? Like KhanAcademy for VCE Chemistry if it's possible. I'm pretty sure a lot of people will benefit from it, you can also put the AN logo in the tutorials and promote AN there so more traffic will come here. :)

thushan is stretched for time this semester :( so a weekly sesh is better ;)
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Soul_Khan on June 16, 2012, 12:39:32 am
Why not post the tutorials on YouTube so that the whole VCE community would benefit from it? Like KhanAcademy for VCE Chemistry if it's possible. I'm pretty sure a lot of people will benefit from it, you can also put the AN logo in the tutorials and promote AN there so more traffic will come here. :)

thushan is stretched for time this semester :( so a weekly sesh is better ;)

Hmm. If it's a cam sesh someone (besides thushan)should record it and post it on YouTube so other people can benefit as well.
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: paulsterio on June 16, 2012, 12:40:15 am
Why not post the tutorials on YouTube so that the whole VCE community would benefit from it? Like KhanAcademy for VCE Chemistry if it's possible. I'm pretty sure a lot of people will benefit from it, you can also put the AN logo in the tutorials and promote AN there so more traffic will come here. :)

Yeah, that's a good idea, takes the podcasting idea a bit further, good marketing opportunity for thush as well
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: ligands on June 16, 2012, 12:42:11 am
Why not post the tutorials on YouTube so that the whole VCE community would benefit from it? Like KhanAcademy for VCE Chemistry if it's possible. I'm pretty sure a lot of people will benefit from it, you can also put the AN logo in the tutorials and promote AN there so more traffic will come here. :)

Yeah, that's a good idea, takes the podcasting idea a bit further, good marketing opportunity for thush as well

paulsterio, professional camera man for thushan?
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: paulsterio on June 16, 2012, 12:45:23 am
Hahaha, considering I see him for like 8 hours every Monday to Friday, meh, why not :P

But yeah, I might consider doing physics ones if this goes well
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Lasercookie on June 16, 2012, 12:48:37 am
Would absolutely love to Thushan! :)

In regards to IRC, it is possible to set up permissions to that only certain people can speak.  If that makes anything easier :)
Yes we can (+M option, voice and devoice people), but then how do we decide who gets to speak and not? It'd end up being a bit exclusive. Seeing as the idea here is to generate discussion, imo, forums seem to be the best option. The only problem is that forums isn't as fast and instant, that minor time delay exists.

There's nothing saying that we can't experiment from week-to-week I guess.

edit: oh I misread 'it is' as 'is it'
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Bhootnike on June 16, 2012, 12:50:58 am
I dont think the posting thing will work well. itll probs get mass overload, ESPECIALLY considering how bloody awesome Thushan is :P
Instant messaging is effective, but with lots of ppl itll get out of hand, - to overcome this itll need moderation..

i think if thushan did something like douchys podcast for biol, thatd be cool. - i.e., based on general consensus, discuss some topic or theory which may be causing grief, or an explanation for some really good question. for questions to be asked, i guess you could open the thread at the start of the week, people ask away till a certain day, then it gets closed.  then make it the podcast which thushan does in response to that weeks questions. he could also create questions based on the podcast so its more interactive while you listen to it..
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: paulsterio on June 16, 2012, 12:52:10 am
Time delay is too much in a forum I reckon, and IM is too uncontrolled, we need to have a system where we have a leader and whoever wants to talk pages the leader and the leader will select the next person to talk based on who paged first, who hasn't had much of a say...etc
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: charmanderp on June 16, 2012, 12:53:12 am
Could we do this for Methods too? I'm rubbish at that :P
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: paulsterio on June 16, 2012, 12:54:02 am
Could we do this for Methods too? I'm rubbish at that :P

Yeah, if this works, we'll see how it goes
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: thushan on June 16, 2012, 08:14:04 am
We'll discuss exactly how to do this tonight at 7:30 pm on the Tutorial 1 Thread that I will post.
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: paulsterio on June 16, 2012, 08:19:20 pm
Where's the tutorial? Am I missing out on something?
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: VivaTequila on June 24, 2012, 12:32:52 pm
Why not IRC?

Trolls, at least mods can keep control of things here. Just my opinion though.

Notsureifsrs.jpg

Ill give you the benefit of the doubt. Dude, IRC can bbe moderated easily
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: pi on June 24, 2012, 01:58:10 pm
Why not IRC?

Trolls, at least mods can keep control of things here. Just my opinion though.

Notsureifsrs.jpg

Ill give you the benefit of the doubt. Dude, IRC can bbe moderated easily

Yeah, I know it can, it's just way too accessible to literally anyone, that was my issue. Unlimitted trolls (potentially).


Either way, the Skype session was a success, so Skype it is.
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Jenny_2108 on June 24, 2012, 02:56:13 pm
Could we do this for Methods too? I'm rubbish at that :P

Yeah, if this works, we'll see how it goes

How about Spesh and Bio tutorials as well? :P
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Hutchoo on June 24, 2012, 04:39:46 pm
Could we do this for Methods too? I'm rubbish at that :P

Yeah, if this works, we'll see how it goes

How about Spesh and Bio tutorials as well? :P

I don't think spesh  tutorials will work over skype.
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Flying Emu on June 24, 2012, 05:45:42 pm
How about assigning each day to a different subject. It'll provide a great way to end the day ^^
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: dinosaur93 on June 24, 2012, 06:14:01 pm
I think it would be best to use teamviewer over skype..
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: Flying Emu on June 24, 2012, 06:21:12 pm
I think it would be best to use teamviewer over skype..

That point's already been considered in the Tutorial 1 thread:

OK here's my verdict:

Forum threads:

Quite a popular choice in the polls. Great idea, my original idea.  However, we have a problem - it's not instant, so we'll have all sorts of people talking at the same time and posting out of sync. Not my favourite idea to be honest.

Skype:

Most popular choice. Very good idea. Problems include privacy and issues with moderation. Privacy can be alleviated with new Skype accounts, and I'll deal with moderation. But if anyone decides to troll and make trouble on Skype, that'd be awful, and I'd have to take action there. But I know you guys won't make trouble! As for non-availability, downloading Skype is free. And as for talking vs typing, i'm thinking typing is better because not everyone has a mic and bandwidth doesn't die. Anyways, I'm thinking this is the best option, so we'll go Skype.

IRC:

Issues are graphics, hard to read text, cannot send files over. Not a very popular choice from what I see.

TeamViewer and that:

Seems good, but people seem to like Skype better.

So Skype it is.

Guys if you could make Skype accounts for AN and make your account name a variant of "ANthushan" or "ANlaseredd" or sth and PM me when you've done it. You can use your real Skype if you want. Add "ANthushan" to your AN Skype address.

We'll gather on a thread on AN called Tutorial 2, then we'll open a Skype convo once we have the ppl rounded up.
See you guys @ Saturday 7:30 pm.

If there are any issues with me making it, I'll let you know early.
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: paulsterio on June 24, 2012, 08:08:55 pm
I think it would be best to use teamviewer over skype..

Flaws of this method have already been suggested, unless you can think of a critical reason which would make Teamviewer the better choice.

How about assigning each day to a different subject. It'll provide a great way to end the day ^^

That would work, but there are more VCE subjects than days of the week, and it will be impossible to find ex-students to take niche subjects, would work, but only for the very common subjects at the moment.
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: nacho on June 24, 2012, 08:19:22 pm
Why not IRC?

Trolls, at least mods can keep control of things here. Just my opinion though.
couldnt u just ban the sad sacks that troll
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: pi on June 24, 2012, 08:28:06 pm
Why not IRC?

Trolls, at least mods can keep control of things here. Just my opinion though.
couldnt u just ban the sad sacks that troll

Haha, it's ironic that you suggest this :P

You can, but it would be annoying having to ban randoms again and again.

ANYWAY, Skype is the preferred method, so why discuss this now? ???
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: paulsterio on June 24, 2012, 08:32:26 pm
Stop suggesting IRC guys, it's not an improvement over Skype and so far, there seems to be no trolls.

If you are going to suggest something, it should offer a marked improvement
Title: Re: ATARNotes Chemistry Weekly Tutorials
Post by: nacho on June 24, 2012, 09:52:13 pm
Why not IRC?

Trolls, at least mods can keep control of things here. Just my opinion though.
couldnt u just ban the sad sacks that troll

Haha, it's ironic that you suggest this :P

You can, but it would be annoying having to ban randoms again and again.

ANYWAY, Skype is the preferred method, so why discuss this now? ???
i didnt even know whats going on
but i voted no