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Title: English Tutor
Post by: Funkyy007 on June 22, 2012, 08:47:14 pm
Hi guys...

As most of you would probably know how difficult it is to find a well-experienced year 12 english tutor, I was just wondering if anyone knows such english tutor.

I know, there are many ex-year 12 students out there who got 45+ in english and are tutoring.... but I believe that a vce english teacher/tutor would know how to improve and maximise their student's performance in english in year 12. ( I may be wrong.... so feel free to tell me your opinion and give me advice)

It would be highly appreciated if you could pm me about any vce english tutor you go to/ went to/ or know of, who is well-expereinced.

Thanks
Title: Re: English Tutor
Post by: paulsterio on June 22, 2012, 08:49:18 pm
I disagree, ex-year 12 students who got 45+ in English and are tutoring would know more about how to improve and maximise your marks.

The general consensus is that you go to a student who has achieved well if you want to aim for the top marks, because they've been there, done that and they understand. You go to a teacher if you're struggling and need extra help because they usually have more experience regarding how to help weaker students.
Title: Re: English Tutor
Post by: pi on June 22, 2012, 08:54:49 pm
The general consensus is that you go to a student who has achieved well if you want to aim for the top marks, because they've been there, done that and they understand.

Where did you make up that consensus from? ???


Anyway, I went to Liz Fear, and in my class we had scores including: 50, 46, 46, 45, 44 (me), 42, 41, 40, 39 (we may have had more that I forgot)

She's been tutoring for years and the last year that she taught in a school, she had 4 kids in that class get 50 raw in Eng. From memory, it's $35/hr and she lives in Clifton Hill (easy walking distance from Clifton Hill station). Class size is no more than 10 (no individual tutoring, I found group to be better anyway, more ideas on the table).

She can be found here http://www.xlcr.com.au/

Good luck!
Title: Re: English Tutor
Post by: paulsterio on June 22, 2012, 09:09:51 pm
Where did you make up that consensus from? ???

Was talking about it with some meddies at uni :P

I believe it's true though, to some extent.
Title: Re: English Tutor
Post by: nacho on June 22, 2012, 09:39:13 pm
Anyway, I went to Liz Fear, and in my class we had scores including: 50, 46, 46, 45, 44 (me), 42, 41, 40, 39 (we may have had more that I forgot)

She's been tutoring for years and the last year that she taught in a school, she had 4 kids in that class get 50 raw in Eng. From memory, it's $35/hr and she lives in Clifton Hill (easy walking distance from Clifton Hill station). Class size is no more than 10 (no individual tutoring, I found group to be better anyway, more ideas on the table).

She can be found here http://www.xlcr.com.au/

Good luck!
I support rohitpi. also went to Liz fear, english was my second highest score (41) and in reality i probably put the least effort into it
she pretty accurately predicted 1 of the topics of text response, and the format of the language analysis on the VCAA exam.

she'll give you answers (her own essays) to the work you do in class, and they are helpful. and she has two books on language analysis

PS: you may find that she'll live up to her name
Title: Re: English Tutor
Post by: Surgeon on June 22, 2012, 11:20:42 pm
I really think that this depends upon the individual.

I'm going to bite the bullet and assume that a past student that was successful in the subject would have quite a unique view of the subject and how to go about studying for it and achieving the esteemed very high study scores (49-50).

Think about it this way: Teachers teach heaps of people, older tutors teach heaps of people and not all of their students get study scores of 48+ for arguments sake.

I personally know several people who have been going to tutors for multiple years and still aren't very good at the subject - they achieve study scores of 30-36.

As a person who is working diligently towards achieving a study score of 50 in English without the aid of a tutor, I feel as though I am developing a deeper understanding of the course and what is required to do well in it. I'm not simply being spoon fed ideas from a tutor who is telling me exactly what to do in order to do well.

I'm reading very widely and doing lots of research in an effort to further develop my understanding of the intricacies and nuances contained within the English 3/4 course.

When I'm finished year 12, I hope to become a tutor for English so as to share my unique methods of writing and understanding what is the English 3/4 course adopting a broad, context-based learning method.

Title: Re: English Tutor
Post by: pi on June 22, 2012, 11:37:28 pm
As a person who is working diligently towards achieving a study score of 50 in English without the aid of a tutor, I feel as though I am developing a deeper understanding of the course and what is required to do well in it. I'm not simply being spoon fed ideas from a tutor who is telling me exactly what to do in order to do well.

That's where the difference occurs between an good/average tutor who spoon-feeds and a great tutor who encourages self-directed learning by giving themselves the role of being a guide rather than a teacher, simply pointing students in the right direction and giving them the resources to find they're own style and technique.

Although whether or not a tutor is great really comes down to the student and how they can work with the tutor.
Title: Re: English Tutor
Post by: charmanderp on June 22, 2012, 11:43:14 pm
Bonus points if they can make a subject fun for a student, especially if they didn't like it previously.
Title: Re: English Tutor
Post by: Surgeon on June 22, 2012, 11:43:21 pm
As a person who is working diligently towards achieving a study score of 50 in English without the aid of a tutor, I feel as though I am developing a deeper understanding of the course and what is required to do well in it. I'm not simply being spoon fed ideas from a tutor who is telling me exactly what to do in order to do well.

That's where the difference occurs between an good/average tutor who spoon-feeds and a great tutor who encourages self-directed learning by giving themselves the role of being a guide rather than a teacher, simply pointing students in the right direction and giving them the resources to find they're own style and technique.

Although whether or not a tutor is great really comes down to the student and how they can work with the tutor.

Yeah that's very true. That's the type of tutor I'd like to be.
Title: Re: English Tutor
Post by: VivaTequila on June 23, 2012, 03:01:15 pm
I can recommend you to two experienced VCE tutors if you live in the Bayside district, but I know he's cut down recently because of he's time-poor. If you don't live closeby and aren't willing to make the effort to fit his schedule, then idk. I'll provide his email by PM if you want it. He's a VCE teacher and assessor. One is an exam assessor too. Pm me if you're interested.