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Title: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: nisha on September 15, 2012, 07:23:01 pm
Just came back from Spesh tutoring today, and man I was almost shaking with anger. My tutor for Methods and Spesh is a highly intellectual individual, but sadly has fallen into the temptation of being money hungry. It annoys the hell out of me that I am in Year 12 and he doesn't give an absolute rats' ass about how I perform in the end of year exams. He's like, "i'm expecting 45+ from you" ...and then he's really slow, so we haven't even finished the course yet!!!!
He gives me ample homework but doesn't correct it (he doesn't give me the answers to the question so I can save time by checking it myself). Then, when I ask questions he looks at the answer at the back of he book, and manipulates his working to achieve it. Man, this is driving me crazy.
He's more interested in the more students he has, rather than the ones he already has. At the beginning he encouraged me to work in a group, then, when I gathered a few friends, he separated us all so he could cash in.
When cancelling tuition on a certain day he doesn't care about informing us, he just isn't home (this has happened too often).
If my Dad asks how I'm doing, he says I'm doing fine, and then later tells me that if I wasn't doing fine I would spoil his reputation and that was his prime concern. Nothing else.
I am a tutor myself, and I am absolutely appalled by this. Despite having young children to tutor, I ACTUALLY CARE about them.
I have told my parents that I no longer want to be tutored by him, but they are adamant that without tuition you cannot get a good mark (they should meet Thushan).
So theres my rant.
At the end of the year, instead of giving him a present for helping me throughout the year, I'm going to buy myself a present for leaving him!
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: Lasercookie on September 15, 2012, 07:30:19 pm
I have told my parents that I no longer want to be tutored by him, but they are adamant that without tuition you cannot get a good mark
If you're being forced into tuition, are you able to switch to a different tutor? Why does it "have" to be this guy?

Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: paulsterio on September 15, 2012, 07:33:31 pm
First of all, yeah, I don't like it when tutors do it for the money, it annoys me too, especially when I tutor a lot of friends for no cost whatsoever, just because I like to teach. But yeah, there's not much you can do - I guess if he's really that bad then you should tell your parents that their money is better spent elsewhere...etc. Reason your argument, tell them what's actually so bad about him - because after all, you're the student and you know what you want.

It's hard for me to say much else, because my parents (and as a result myself as well) are generally against private tutoring. But regardless, I think it's important that you really let your parents (as well as him), know that what he's doing is just not acceptable.

Sounds like one of those douchebag tutors to be honest (they do exist).
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: nisha on September 15, 2012, 07:35:56 pm
I have told my parents that I no longer want to be tutored by him, but they are adamant that without tuition you cannot get a good mark
If you're being forced into tuition, are you able to switch to a different tutor? Why does it "have" to be this guy?
I have been saying this all year. But they think its too risky to try someone else out, and they think he's really good only because he portrays himself well in front of parents. As I said, he cares a lot for his image and reputation...in a curry world, I guess thats all you have.
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: paulsterio on September 15, 2012, 07:40:49 pm
If your parents really care about reputation and image, they should let you go to this guy:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rukmin-Uncle/49725359666

Probably one of the most famous curry mathematics tutors in Victoria.
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: nisha on September 15, 2012, 07:43:38 pm
If your parents really care about reputation and image, they should let you go to this guy:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rukmin-Uncle/49725359666

Probably one of the most famous curry mathematics tutors in Victoria.
Word of mouth is very important in a curry society...so they've been going on that.
WOW! I wish I went to him.
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: taiga on September 15, 2012, 07:49:23 pm
Just drop the tutor asap and go to another one
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: paulsterio on September 15, 2012, 07:52:34 pm
Yeah, I know how important word of mouth is, like it's not even just within the curry community, the thing with tutors is that their whole business is based around gaining a good reputation.

Unlike with other professions, tutors don't give out resumes, they depend on selling themselves and their past students passing on the word of mouth. Plus, parents who desperately want their kids to do well will have an inclination to trust those who can sell themselves well and build a good appearance. That's why reputation and image is important with tutoring in general, I guess.

Anyway, yeah, I had a friend who went to Rukmin and managed to score a 50 in Methods, so he's a very accomplished tutor. Apparently his daughter (who I know) is like a maths genius as well, so it runs in the family I guess :P

Just drop the tutor asap and go to another one

Paul's Tip #10001: Go to Taiga, he knows his stuff ;)
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: nisha on September 15, 2012, 07:56:25 pm
Just drop the tutor asap and go to another one
Going to the Atarnotes Revision Sessions for Spesh ;)
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: RTandon on September 15, 2012, 09:47:08 pm
My uncle recommended this tutoring company and I quite like them

http://www.teacherni.com/

It's pretty much online tutoring. They are qualified teachers from India who teach your syllabus. And the great thing is that you can choose whatever time you want to have a class- you can even reschedule at the last minute if you really need to. It's $17 an hour- or maybe $20? I can't remember. Buuuut yeah, they're pretty good.

The only downside is that since they're not from here they can't give exam tips and all that jazz.

Give them a try if you can.
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: paulsterio on September 15, 2012, 09:53:37 pm
Hmmm, the only problem with that is $20-ish/hour is quite high for internet tutoring, especially considering they aren't teaching specifically VCE. Like I'd be willing to tutor for that much over Skype and I'm a VCE graduate, did well in subjects I'm intending to tutor and will be able to give exam tips, resources, and all that other jazz.
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: FlorianK on September 15, 2012, 10:06:57 pm
Well, why don't you then simply get a better tutor? There are so many tutors out there, just choose a new one, you didn't made any commitment. If you're going for the 45+ I'd recommend abes, he held the methods lecture for connect, which i went to and helped me with methods since then over facebook. Even just the written messages go through my eyes into my brain, haven't dropped a mark in my sacs since he helps me(I dropped 'a lot' of marks before. I'd be lucky to have him as an actual tutor.
http://www.atarnotes.com/?p=tutoring&a=view&item_id=41
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: Jenny_2108 on September 15, 2012, 10:27:36 pm
Just came back from Spesh tutoring today, and man I was almost shaking with anger. My tutor for Methods and Spesh is a highly intellectual individual, but sadly has fallen into the temptation of being money hungry. It annoys the hell out of me that I am in Year 12 and he doesn't give an absolute rats' ass about how I perform in the end of year exams. He's like, "i'm expecting 45+ from you" ...and then he's really slow, so we haven't even finished the course yet!!!!
He gives me ample homework but doesn't correct it (he doesn't give me the answers to the question so I can save time by checking it myself). Then, when I ask questions he looks at the answer at the back of he book, and manipulates his working to achieve it. Man, this is driving me crazy.
He's more interested in the more students he has, rather than the ones he already has. At the beginning he encouraged me to work in a group, then, when I gathered a few friends, he separated us all so he could cash in.
When cancelling tuition on a certain day he doesn't care about informing us, he just isn't home (this has happened too often).
If my Dad asks how I'm doing, he says I'm doing fine, and then later tells me that if I wasn't doing fine I would spoil his reputation and that was his prime concern. Nothing else.
I am a tutor myself, and I am absolutely appalled by this. Despite having young children to tutor, I ACTUALLY CARE about them.
I have told my parents that I no longer want to be tutored by him, but they are adamant that without tuition you cannot get a good mark (they should meet Thushan).
So theres my rant.
At the end of the year, instead of giving him a present for helping me throughout the year, I'm going to buy myself a present for leaving him!

Change your Spesh tutor immediately!!! Only 2 months left, you won't have any chances to change your ATAR after 2 months anyway!!!

Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: HERculina on September 15, 2012, 11:07:57 pm
This reminds me of my friend's chem tutor. He's very old and she has difficulty understanding him, yet at the end of every lesson he says, "Don't forget the $80 you owe me"  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: abeybaby on September 16, 2012, 12:38:12 am
Well, why don't you then simply get a better tutor? There are so many tutors out there, just choose a new one, you didn't made any commitment. If you're going for the 45+ I'd recommend abes, he held the methods lecture for connect, which i went to and helped me with methods since then over facebook. Even just the written messages go through my eyes into my brain, haven't dropped a mark in my sacs since he helps me(I dropped 'a lot' of marks before. I'd be lucky to have him as an actual tutor.
http://www.atarnotes.com/?p=tutoring&a=view&item_id=41


*squeal*

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/3/3a/Ohstopityou.png)
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: nacho on September 16, 2012, 01:17:33 am
Well, why don't you then simply get a better tutor? There are so many tutors out there, just choose a new one, you didn't made any commitment. If you're going for the 45+ I'd recommend abes, he held the methods lecture for connect, which i went to and helped me with methods since then over facebook. Even just the written messages go through my eyes into my brain, haven't dropped a mark in my sacs since he helps me(I dropped 'a lot' of marks before. I'd be lucky to have him as an actual tutor.
http://www.atarnotes.com/?p=tutoring&a=view&item_id=41
In addition to this, last year I remember I was struggling with getting to know my CAS and pm'd him for help on like one minor thing. The guy invites me to the state library and says 'bring any questions and the hardest prac exam q's you can find and your CAS and I'll show you how to use it to its full power'. (paraphrasing)
He spends like 90 minutes+ running me down on how to use my CAS to its' full extent, he programmed all these shortcuts in it for me and in the end refused money and He was really nice.
That PM was literally the first time I'd communicated with him too.
Also I bought my Dr. He and Kilbaha exams with me and he poo'd on them! (figuratively)

I heard he gyms now too
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: abeybaby on September 16, 2012, 01:27:55 am

In addition to this, last year I remember I was struggling with getting to know my CAS and pm'd him for help on like one minor thing. The guy invites me to the state library and says 'bring any questions and the hardest prac exam q's you can find and your CAS and I'll show you how to use it to its full power'. (paraphrasing)
He spends like 90 minutes+ running me down on how to use my CAS to its' full extent, he programmed all these shortcuts in it for me and in the end refused money and He was really nice.
That PM was literally the first time I'd communicated with him too.
Also I bought my Dr. He and Kilbaha exams with me and he poo'd on them! (figuratively)

I heard he gyms now too

thanks nacho, and to clarify, yes, its been a year and a half roughly, but i started REALLY seriously in december last year :)
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: thushan on September 16, 2012, 08:41:20 am

In addition to this, last year I remember I was struggling with getting to know my CAS and pm'd him for help on like one minor thing. The guy invites me to the state library and says 'bring any questions and the hardest prac exam q's you can find and your CAS and I'll show you how to use it to its full power'. (paraphrasing)
He spends like 90 minutes+ running me down on how to use my CAS to its' full extent, he programmed all these shortcuts in it for me and in the end refused money and He was really nice.
That PM was literally the first time I'd communicated with him too.
Also I bought my Dr. He and Kilbaha exams with me and he poo'd on them! (figuratively)

I heard he gyms now too

thanks nacho, and to clarify, yes, its been a year and a half roughly, but i started REALLY seriously in december last year :)

Abes is just a boss.
And Nisha's tutor is just a prick.
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: nisha on September 16, 2012, 12:35:26 pm

In addition to this, last year I remember I was struggling with getting to know my CAS and pm'd him for help on like one minor thing. The guy invites me to the state library and says 'bring any questions and the hardest prac exam q's you can find and your CAS and I'll show you how to use it to its full power'. (paraphrasing)
He spends like 90 minutes+ running me down on how to use my CAS to its' full extent, he programmed all these shortcuts in it for me and in the end refused money and He was really nice.
That PM was literally the first time I'd communicated with him too.
Also I bought my Dr. He and Kilbaha exams with me and he poo'd on them! (figuratively)

I heard he gyms now too

thanks nacho, and to clarify, yes, its been a year and a half roughly, but i started REALLY seriously in december last year :)

Abes is just a boss.
And Nisha's tutor is just a prick.
Amen to that.
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: charmanderp on September 18, 2012, 08:29:17 pm
Abes>You (whoever you are)
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: thushan on September 18, 2012, 08:30:06 pm
Haha almost thought that was directed at me! :P
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: paulsterio on September 18, 2012, 08:32:00 pm
Abes>You (whoever you are)

Well this guy is 2abes

abes > 2abes

1 > 2? :D
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: charmanderp on September 18, 2012, 08:36:06 pm
Haha almost thought that was directed at me! :P
Yeah that's why I threw in the parentheses haha, just to make it clear.
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: thushan on September 18, 2012, 08:39:07 pm
Abes>You (whoever you are)

Well this guy is 2abes

abes > 2abes

1 > 2? :D

Not necessarily. You assumed abes > 0. Consider the case where abes = 0 and abes < 0. :P
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: paulsterio on September 18, 2012, 08:58:48 pm
Not necessarily. You assumed abes > 0. Consider the case where abes = 0 and abes < 0. :P

Abes is anti-matter :D
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: bluehorizon on September 18, 2012, 09:05:13 pm
well personally im such a mean person that i'd only tutor for money
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: Truck on September 18, 2012, 09:08:51 pm
well personally im such a mean person that i'd only tutor for money

more money more problems bro
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: abeybaby on September 18, 2012, 09:14:30 pm
Abes>You (whoever you are)

Well this guy is 2abes

abes > 2abes

1 > 2? :D

Pet peeve of mine! Hate it when people divide by a variable!
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: AllAboutTheLGs on September 18, 2012, 09:25:33 pm
You should find a new tutor asap! I know what its like to have that kind of tutor.. My physics tutor only cared about money and whenever I asked questions he would answer them wrongly (hence I would have learnt something incorrect), only to later find out they were wrong. And then he just manipulates answers to fit the given answers etc.

No point spending time with a bad tutor.

Speaking of tutors who don't care about money and are just all around awesome. I had a really good tutor for chem in unit 3, John Wong, absolute beast and we finished the course 2 months before exams.
But straight after we finished the course he informed me that I should probably find another tutor to replace him for unit 4, as he felt like he couldn't teach it to his best ability. Top bloke, didn't waste my time or money, main reason I went from failing Yr11 Chemistry to doing good in unit 3 Chemistry. Unit 4 just isn't the same without him :(
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: charmanderp on September 18, 2012, 09:35:26 pm
Unit 4 just isn't the same without him :(
This explains a lot.
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: paulsterio on September 18, 2012, 10:10:41 pm
Pet peeve of mine! Hate it when people divide by a variable!

Hahah, as if it's a pet peeve of yours? I love it, I can make Year 8-9 maths students wonder how I managed to get stuff like 1 = 2 :P
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: abeybaby on September 18, 2012, 10:25:54 pm
Pet peeve of mine! Hate it when people divide by a variable!

Hahah, as if it's a pet peeve of yours? I love it, I can make Year 8-9 maths students wonder how I managed to get stuff like 1 = 2 :P

lol yeah thats fair enough.. i remember in year 8 i spent ages scrutinising the 1=2 proof, and i couldnt find the mistake! )
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: thushan on September 18, 2012, 10:33:17 pm
You should find a new tutor asap! I know what its like to have that kind of tutor.. My physics tutor only cared about money and whenever I asked questions he would answer them wrongly (hence I would have learnt something incorrect), only to later find out they were wrong. And then he just manipulates answers to fit the given answers etc.

No point spending time with a bad tutor.

Speaking of tutors who don't care about money and are just all around awesome. I had a really good tutor for chem in unit 3, John Wong, absolute beast and we finished the course 2 months before exams.
But straight after we finished the course he informed me that I should probably find another tutor to replace him for unit 4, as he felt like he couldn't teach it to his best ability. Top bloke, didn't waste my time or money, main reason I went from failing Yr11 Chemistry to doing good in unit 3 Chemistry. Unit 4 just isn't the same without him :(

You had John Wong as your tutor? You were one lucky guy! The guy is in my year level at uni, such a legend!
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: pi on September 18, 2012, 10:36:08 pm
JW WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: AllAboutTheLGs on September 18, 2012, 10:46:30 pm
Yeah only for unit 3 though. And although it was strictly Chemistry tuition if I had problems with any of my other subjects he would help me. Idk I feel like he pretty much carried me through the whole of unit 3 LOL my marks have deteriorated since .. He would always make the subject seem easy and give me confidence and motivation and just ugh! LOL vce is so stressful now
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: thushan on September 18, 2012, 10:47:43 pm
Puts me to shame LOL. Should step it up a notch myself!
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: paulsterio on September 18, 2012, 11:44:06 pm
The funny thing is it might not even be the same John Wong, considering that's an extremely common name  :P
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: pi on September 18, 2012, 11:45:39 pm
Nah, there's only one "absolute beast" JW.
Title: Re: Tutors that care more for money
Post by: Hutchoo on September 19, 2012, 12:34:23 am
Nah, there's only one "absolute beast" JW.

I was expecting a "MHS PRIDE!" post, pi.

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