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General Discussion => General Discussion Boards => Rants and Debate => Topic started by: betruetoyou22 on October 16, 2012, 10:05:36 pm
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i've worked SOOOO HARD THIS YEAR and have got straight A's on sacs & mid year exam. about 5 weaks ago i found out a parent's cancer is terminal, we don't know for how long they may live. In your opinion should i continue and do my exams (even though i'm pretty frightened and distressed) or take some time off to spend time with him/her and take some time off for myself to digest the idea?
What's your opinion peeps? only two weeks to go? take the derivative or do exams (i don't even know if i'll get accepted for a dev)
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Definitely apply for a derived examination score ASAP: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/vce/exams/specialprovision/derivedexam.aspx
Submitting your application
Students who believe they are eligible for a Derived Examination Score should first seek advice from their school. The primary responsibility for submitting a correctly completed application form rests with the student.
If circumstances are of an exceptionally private and sensitive nature, students may apply directly to the VCAA. Students will still be required to provide evidence in support of their application
If you don't feel comfortable talking to your school about this then apply straight to VCAA. It says you can get forms from your VCE coordinator only so I would email them directly and ask how you can proceed from this point.
You are under more than enough stress and emotional turmoil right now without having to think about exams as well. Please take some time off for yourself.
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thankyou SOOO much for that link, i never even knew i could apply myself. i truly don't know what to do anymore. do you personally think i should continue?? what would be the pros and cons??
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there are alternate routes to post - high school education for those who want a course badly enough, you only have 1 mum and dad
just my 2 cents
but deffs see if you can get a derived exam or work something out, as mentioned above ^
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Definitely apply for a derived examination score, you don't need that stress at this point in your life. I'm really sorry to hear that such a terrible thing has struck you and your family.
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This is a really difficult question. I can't really tell you what to do - nor do I really want to - ultimately this is something that's going to affect you, not me. We could provide you with reasons for either option, and in terms of pros/cons you'd probably find that either choice is just as good as the other.
I can't picture what it'd be like to be in your situation, but I think it's probably best to go with gut instinct and do what you feel is best.
You can still apply for a derived score and sit exams if you want - they'll use the score that's better. You don't have to feel forced to sit exams either you have the derived scores as your safety net. They're only a small part of life.
If you can, I would find someone to sit down and talk to too.
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Definitely apply for a derived examination score ASAP: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/vce/exams/specialprovision/derivedexam.aspx
Submitting your application
Students who believe they are eligible for a Derived Examination Score should first seek advice from their school. The primary responsibility for submitting a correctly completed application form rests with the student.
If circumstances are of an exceptionally private and sensitive nature, students may apply directly to the VCAA. Students will still be required to provide evidence in support of their application
If you don't feel comfortable talking to your school about this then apply straight to VCAA. It says you can get forms from your VCE coordinator only so I would email them directly and ask how you can proceed from this point.
You are under more than enough stress and emotional turmoil right now without having to think about exams as well. Please take some time off for yourself.
do you know where i can access the application form through vcaa - it didn't seem to be anywhere on the website.
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thankyou SOOO much for that link, i never even knew i could apply myself. i truly don't know what to do anymore. do you personally think i should continue?? what would be the pros and cons??
I can only deal in hypotheticals as I don't have any experience with this sort of thing.
I guess it depends on your personality. Are you good at filtering out distractions? Do you think you'd be able to study without thoughts of your parent intruding all the time? If so, having exams to study for may be a good way of maintaining some degree of emotional and mental stability. You cannot, and shouldn't expect to, spend 24/7 with your parent.
On the other hand, if you don't think you'll be able to do that (and there's nothing wrong with that - I wouldn't be able to focus in your place) then you should consider applying for a derived score. Otherwise, you risk not only getting a lower exam score than you deserved, but you may also end up beating yourself up after your parent passes about "not spending enough time with him/her" (which is NOT TRUE and NOBODY will begrudge you for doing other things, but I'm just saying that emotions can be irrational).
It also depends (and I apologise in advance because I don't know how to approach this without sounding insensitive) on the stage your parent's cancer is at. If there is a chance that they will be at the stage where they'll be unconscious for most of the day, then studying at their bedside may be a good way of passing the time while still being in their presence - spending time with them. Again though, remember that hospitals are not the best study places.
I can't make your decision for you because I don't know you at all. If I were in your place I would apply for a derived score, BUT that's because I know that I would have trouble focusing on studies with this kind of thing hanging over my head. You might be totally different.
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do you know where i can access the application form through vcaa - it didn't seem to be anywhere on the website.
You need to get in touch with your school VCE coordinator, they should have the form in hard-copy.
I'm really sorry to hear about your situation though :'(
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I agree with laseredd on this one.
Definitely apply for a derived score -> remember, you can still sit exams if you so choose.
I'm hesitant to tell you what I would do in your situation [how I usually give people advice] because in reality, no one knows what they would do if they were in your situation. Would certainly be worth talking it out with someone you trust and respect a lot.
-that being said, I would +vote ninwa's last post.
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do you know where i can access the application form through vcaa - it didn't seem to be anywhere on the website.
I don't believe that they have the forms on the website. You can get them through your school. If you want to skip going through your school, I would call up VCAA directly and see what they say. They have contact details here: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/contactus.aspx
You might find that your school will be quite supportive, but that's something that you'd know better yourself.
The forms used to be at the back of the VCE handbook in previous years, but know it just states that they're available through VASS (the VCAA computer system that schools access) http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/pages/schooladmin/handbook/2012/index.aspx
Section 11 has some general information about derived scores though, so you might want to read the handbook anyway.
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do you know where i can access the application form through vcaa - it didn't seem to be anywhere on the website.
I've been looking for it and I can't find it either.
All I found was this, which gives you a bit more information about the whole process but doesn't have the actual form http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/bulletin/04OCTLI1.pdf
According to Page 17 of this document:
Completing the DES application
Students who believe they are eligible for a DES should first seek advice from their school. Forms are available from VCE coordinators.
Specific details on how to complete each section of the DES application are provided on the form.
It is very important to read and follow these instructions carefully. Submitting an incomplete application may jeopardise the chances of the application being approved.
Submitting your application
The primary responsibility for submitting a correctly completed application form rests with the student.
Students should submit their application to their home school principal. The principal will consider the application and make a recommendation to the VCAA at his or her discretion.
The VCAA reserves the right to contact the school when statements involving the school need to be verified.
Are you not comfortable speaking to your school about this?
If so, I would suggest that you call VCAA or send them an email (preferably call as you'll get an immediate response that way, and emails occasionally may be lost) and ask about what you should do if you don't want to tell your school about your personal circumstances. The contact details can be found here: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/contactus.aspx
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do you know where i can access the application form through vcaa - it didn't seem to be anywhere on the website.
I've been looking for it and I can't find it either.
All I found was this, which gives you a bit more information about the whole process but doesn't have the actual form http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/bulletin/04OCTLI1.pdf
According to Page 17 of this document:
Completing the DES application
Students who believe they are eligible for a DES should first seek advice from their school. Forms are available from VCE coordinators.
Specific details on how to complete each section of the DES application are provided on the form.
It is very important to read and follow these instructions carefully. Submitting an incomplete application may jeopardise the chances of the application being approved.
Submitting your application
The primary responsibility for submitting a correctly completed application form rests with the student.
Students should submit their application to their home school principal. The principal will consider the application and make a recommendation to the VCAA at his or her discretion.
The VCAA reserves the right to contact the school when statements involving the school need to be verified.
Are you not comfortable speaking to your school about this?
If so, I would suggest that you call VCAA or send them an email (preferably call as you'll get an immediate response that way, and emails occasionally may be lost) and ask about what you should do if you don't want to tell your school about your personal circumstances. The contact details can be found here: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/contactus.aspx
i honestly couldn't thankyou enough for your support <3 the thing is i told my coordinator about the situation and she was completely calm about it. in my opinion she didn't want to panick in front of me. she told me that no matter what she wanted me to sit my exams because she believes that i am capable of doing extremely well. i'm usually strong about things like this - but on the weekend he had a breakdown in front of me because of steroids that he was taking and that just broke me - and i've kinda been down ever since. he's in paliative care and i still haven't visited him since the incident - and school is very stubborn about me continuing.
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I think you should definitely apply for the derived score, since either way it'll be of benefit to you.
With that said, whether or not you sit the actual exams is your personal choice. Maybe you choose to sit them but ease up on the studying, maybe you work harder then ever, I think there's many ways of rationalizing what you're going to do and none is less justifiable then the other. I don't think anyone here can give you advice on whether or not you should continue with VCE, that is a personal choice that you should make for yourself.. I wish you all the best though, hope you get through everything okay :).
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I agree your teacher didn't want to be a catalyst for your panic. The nature of teachers is they want the best for you, so in her opinion the best for you is to get the highest ATAR you can to set you up for further studies, which would come from sitting exams.
Don't say "i'm usually strong about these things" -> strength is not acting tough. Strength is being dealt the worst hand imaginable and continuing. One of my favourite quotes, no idea who from, -> if you're going through hell, keep going. The fact that you're talking about what you should do in terms of your exams etc shows your strength. That, is strong.
At the end of the day, fuck what your school thinks (sorry for any ninnies out there.) This is about you, what's best for you, with the decision made by you (as objectively as possible.)
As worthless as it is, my thoughts and well wishes are with you.
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I think you should definitely apply for the derived score, since either way it'll be of benefit to you.
With that said, whether or not you sit the actual exams is your personal choice. Maybe you choose to sit them but ease up on the studying, maybe you work harder then ever, I think there's many ways of rationalizing what you're going to do and none is less justifiable then the other. I don't think anyone here can give you advice on whether or not you should continue with VCE, that is a personal choice that you should make for yourself.. I wish you all the best though, hope you get through everything okay :).
thanks for the advice - love this community <3
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I think that you should apply for the derived exam score and if you change your mind you can always just attend the exam. Use it as a safety net incase you decide you don't want to go through with it.
Take at least a few days off studying. Don't even think about school. It will do you good regardless of what your final decision is.
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I agree your teacher didn't want to be a catalyst for your panic. The nature of teachers is they want the best for you, so in her opinion the best for you is to get the highest ATAR you can to set you up for further studies, which would come from sitting exams.
Don't say "i'm usually strong about these things" -> strength is not acting tough. Strength is being dealt the worst hand imaginable and continuing. One of my favourite quotes, no idea who from, -> if you're going through hell, keep going. The fact that you're talking about what you should do in terms of your exams etc shows your strength. That, is strong.
At the end of the day, fuck what your school thinks (sorry for any ninnies out there.) This is about you, what's best for you, with the decision made by you (as objectively as possible.)
As worthless as it is, my thoughts and well wishes are with you.
pretty wise words :) if i do make it to the exams, it would be thanks to your post! and your motivational corner lol, i'm gonna go sleep and pray for the best - but know that your thoughts and well wishes are much appreciated !! thanks for the support and wish you the best too
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Have a great sleep, thank you. AN is always here.
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I think that you should apply for the derived exam score and if you change your mind you can always just attend the exam. Use it as a safety net incase you decide you don't want to go through with it.
Take at least a few days off studying. Don't even think about school. It will do you good regardless of what your final decision is.
taking a few days off seems impossible - especially if i do sit my exams. i'm a couple of weeks behind on schedule and so i feel like these two weeks need to be spent EXTRA wisely...
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You truly are between a rock and a hard place, and whatever decision you make is the right one, honestly. There is no right or wrong answer as the positives and the negatives to pursuing either option are significant. So make your decision and understand that you had to make a choice. This was thrust upon you, and it's nobody's fault, and especially not yours. Whatever happens, just don't blame yourself.
I really hope the doctors are wrong and your parent can pull through. Stay strong, and good luck with everything.
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You truly are between a rock and a hard place, and whatever decision you make is the right one, honestly. There is no right or wrong answer as the positives and the negatives to pursuing either option are significant. So make your decision and understand that you had to make a choice. This was thrust upon you, and it's nobody's fault, and especially not yours. Whatever happens, just don't blame yourself.
I really hope the doctors are wrong and your parent can pull through. Stay strong, and good luck with everything.
thankyouu so much - i hope so too :) huge props for running atar notes !! god knows where i'd be without it.
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Either one you choose is completely fine, I don't think you can regret either one. Your parents would want what's best for you, and I really think that they would want you to do well regardless of their situation.
To have the strength to not just break down completely and come on here and show that you are capable of even attempting to make a positive decision in your situation is just amazing and I think you'll do very well in the future regardless of which path you choose.
I really can't offer any real advice, but all I can say is that I wish you all the best and I really hope you get through this as best you can :)
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I'm not very good at saying stuff, but if I met you in real life I would probably squish you with a huge hug.
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Definitely apply for a derived examination score ASAP: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/vce/exams/specialprovision/derivedexam.aspx
Submitting your application
Students who believe they are eligible for a Derived Examination Score should first seek advice from their school. The primary responsibility for submitting a correctly completed application form rests with the student.
If circumstances are of an exceptionally private and sensitive nature, students may apply directly to the VCAA. Students will still be required to provide evidence in support of their application
If you don't feel comfortable talking to your school about this then apply straight to VCAA. It says you can get forms from your VCE coordinator only so I would email them directly and ask how you can proceed from this point.
You are under more than enough stress and emotional turmoil right now without having to think about exams as well. Please take some time off for yourself.
i called vcaa today and they told me that i can only apply through my school - they were very harsh and told me that its not possible for me to apply BEFORE i sit the exams - they said i could only apply after i sit my final exam and that i may or may not get approved. I would only know if i got approved after i actually sit the exams... getting a bit panicky.
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I'm not very good at saying stuff, but if I met you in real life I would probably squish you with a huge hug.
lol, haha virtual hugs for now :))
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i called vcaa today and they told me that i can only apply through my school - they were very harsh and told me that its not possible for me to apply BEFORE i sit the exams - they said i could only apply after i sit my final exam and that i may or may not get approved. I would only know if i got approved after i actually sit the exams... getting a bit panicky.
That's bullshit, their own website says you can apply through VCAA if the matter is of a sensitive or personal nature. It also says you have to submit your application no later than 7 days after your final exam - it doesn't say you can only apply after exams have commenced. Whoever took your phone call is a moron.
What did you tell them exactly?
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i called vcaa today and they told me that i can only apply through my school - they were very harsh and told me that its not possible for me to apply BEFORE i sit the exams - they said i could only apply after i sit my final exam and that i may or may not get approved. I would only know if i got approved after i actually sit the exams... getting a bit panicky.
That's bullshit, their own website says you can apply through VCAA if the matter is of a sensitive or personal nature. It also says you have to submit your application no later than 7 days after your final exam - it doesn't say you can only apply after exams have commenced. Whoever took your phone call is a moron.
What did you tell them exactly?
i just basically told them my situation and asked where i can acess the application form. The guy i spoke to was like "yeah, look you can only apply through your school and only AFTER you sit your exams" and he's like that i'd find out if my application is approved a couple of weeks before i find out my atar score. so now its a matter of i have to sit my exams because i'm not even sure i'll get approved.
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Are VCAA a 9-5 operation?
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Are VCAA a 9-5 operation?
apparently so
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I have a good friend whose father was diagnosed with bowel cancer last year in year 12 and she did have a breakdown period where she was hiding in empty rooms crying silently in a corner and not attending class for a while .... and it was very heartbreaking to see since I couldn't do much as a friend apart from offering a shoulder to cry on
however she did keep strong throughout year 12 and managed to get a 92.8 ATAR despite having SEAS support and all
Her dad was very proud of her for pulling through and having a daughter he could be proud of both academically and for her strong-will
(sadly he passed away a few months ago :( )
just a story I'd like to share - although since the news has broke so recently for you I can see that you might need some time like my friend did :( *hugs all round*
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i just basically told them my situation and asked where i can acess the application form. The guy i spoke to was like "yeah, look you can only apply through your school and only AFTER you sit your exams" and he's like that i'd find out if my application is approved a couple of weeks before i find out my atar score. so now its a matter of i have to sit my exams because i'm not even sure i'll get approved.
Wow, that is a terrible process IMO. They are basically forcing you to do the exams and study for them because they won't tell you if your approved beforehand. I can see where they are coming from that they would want to encourage everyone to still sit the exams, but in turn they are just putting unnecessary pressure on you in a time when you certainly don't need anything else to worry about.
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If you want me to I'll call up VCAA tomorrow and push them. If ninwa says it's bullshit then that's bullshit enough to me. I have spares period 4 and 5 so I'll do a little bit of research myself and go in equipped.
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Do you want someone to call up for you? enwiabe is great at scaring people into acquiescing to his demands... :p
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I have a good friend whose father was diagnosed with bowel cancer last year in year 12 and she did have a breakdown period where she was hiding in empty rooms crying silently in a corner and not attending class for a while .... and it was very heartbreaking to see since I couldn't do much as a friend apart from offering a shoulder to cry on
however she did keep strong throughout year 12 and managed to get a 92.8 ATAR despite having SEAS support and all
Her dad was very proud of her for pulling through and having a daughter he could be proud of both academically and for her strong-will
(sadly he passed away a few months ago :( )
just a story I'd like to share - although since the news has broke so recently for you I can see that you might need some time like my friend did :( *hugs all round*
i can totally relate to her ;/ my breakdown period was for the past three weeks. there was one day where i literally didn't get out of bed. but i gues if your friend could do it then so could i :)
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If you want me to I'll call up VCAA tomorrow and push them. If ninwa says it's bullshit then that's bullshit enough to me. I have spares period 4 and 5 so I'll do a little bit of research myself and go in equipped.
i called them up AGAIN lol and they put me through to the same moron that i spoke to yesterday. he changed his mind today and told me that i could apply through vcaa but that i could only do it after i sat the exams. So i guess i'm going to continue studying and i'm going to sit the exams. "courage is going on, even when you don't have the strength to"
i don't think i have any other option. he's like my only other option is resitting unit 4 next year! such a prick he was.
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Do you want someone to call up for you? enwiabe is great at scaring people into acquiescing to his demands... :p
Loll ninwa! you da bomb. is there anything enwiabe can say that i haven't told them?? i feel like im in a court case :P it turns out i can apply through vcaa....but only after i sit the exams. Unless i repeat unit 4 next year?
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i just basically told them my situation and asked where i can acess the application form. The guy i spoke to was like "yeah, look you can only apply through your school and only AFTER you sit your exams" and he's like that i'd find out if my application is approved a couple of weeks before i find out my atar score. so now its a matter of i have to sit my exams because i'm not even sure i'll get approved.
Wow, that is a terrible process IMO. They are basically forcing you to do the exams and study for them because they won't tell you if your approved beforehand. I can see where they are coming from that they would want to encourage everyone to still sit the exams, but in turn they are just putting unnecessary pressure on you in a time when you certainly don't need anything else to worry about.
tell me about it! now i'm forced to put my head back into the books and continue to my exams (even though i'm completely broken and depleted of strength) oh well -.- pain is cured through action no?
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Speaking from experience mate, it'll be best for you if you push on and continue with Year 12. It'd be hard to come this far and let it all go. There will definitely be some hard times ahead and times when you completely break but that's a given and putting off your graduation will not change that.
Be strong and you can do it.
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If you want me to I'll call up VCAA tomorrow and push them. If ninwa says it's bullshit then that's bullshit enough to me. I have spares period 4 and 5 so I'll do a little bit of research myself and go in equipped.
i called them up AGAIN lol and they put me through to the same moron that i spoke to yesterday. he changed his mind today and told me that i could apply through vcaa but that i could only do it after i sat the exams. So i guess i'm going to continue studying and i'm going to sit the exams. "courage is going on, even when you don't have the strength to"
i don't think i have any other option. he's like my only other option is resitting unit 4 next year! such a prick he was.
The best definition of courage I ever heard. I'm glad you sorted that out - they won't reject your application, they'd have to be a bunch of stoned monkeys to make that mistake. He sounds like a real cockhead. I suppose it could be a good thing from one perspective - at least you have the freedom of not having to make a choice. Unless you wanted to resit in which case, power to you. I wish you all the best.
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Do you want someone to call up for you? enwiabe is great at scaring people into acquiescing to his demands... :p
Loll ninwa! you da bomb. is there anything enwiabe can say that i haven't told them?? i feel like im in a court case :P it turns out i can apply through vcaa....but only after i sit the exams. Unless i repeat unit 4 next year?
I was thinking along the lines of "I run a community of 40,000 students and I will go to the media with how badly you've treated this person" but on second thoughts threats probably aren't the best way of getting people on your side
Students should attend every examination session if at all possible and not miss an examination because they do not feel able to do their best.
The Special Provision procedures are designed to cover the case of a student who performs below expectations due to adverse circumstances.
If a student does not attend an examination session and their application for a Derived Examination Score is not approved they will not receive a score for that examination.
If you truly do not feel up to studying and attending your exams, then don't. You are not required to... you will only get a 0 if you don't receive a derived score but VCAA would have to be utter morons not to grant it.
If you decide to take that route I would suggest that you:
- see a doctor, tell them the situation and get them to write a medical note stating that in their professional opinion you are not fit to attend your exams. Or, ask for a referral to a psychiatrist who will write the note - but from experience a GP is generally happy to assess and attest to mental issues.
- I know this will be hard, but you need to ask for a medical history for your parent, which should have information as to their illness, the terminal diagnosis and the date of diagnosis. Or, a note from your parent's doctor - just make sure the note has the doctor's contact details on it and preferably an official hospital letterhead.
This is so you can have as much supporting documentation for your application as possible.
Unless i repeat unit 4 next year?
That's also an option -
Compassionate Late Withdrawal or Interrupted Studies
If an illness or personal circumstance has been so severe that a student has not been coping with the VCE demands, speak with the VCE Coordinator about Compassionate Late Withdrawal or Interrupted Studies status. The school will need supporting professional evidence if a student decides to pursue either of these options.
Maybe you should consider speaking to your VCE coordinator about this option? I have no idea what it means though...
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Speaking from experience mate, it'll be best for you if you push on and continue with Year 12. It'd be hard to come this far and let it all go. There will definitely be some hard times ahead and times when you completely break but that's a given and putting off your graduation will not change that.
Be strong and you can do it.
You're 100 % right. i can do this!!!!!!!!!!
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You obviously have such amazing strength and courage, I have no doubt that whatever you choose to do, and whichever way you go about it, you will come out on top. Whilst I cannot begin to imagine how hard it must be at the moment, try to maintain a positive outlook. But remember: you are more than entitled to your feelings, and if you become overwhelmed over the next few weeks at any time, its perfectly okay and completely understandable. Everyone is here to help in whatever way possible, so never think that you are alone! Please take care
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Do you want someone to call up for you? enwiabe is great at scaring people into acquiescing to his demands... :p
Loll ninwa! you da bomb. is there anything enwiabe can say that i haven't told them?? i feel like im in a court case :P it turns out i can apply through vcaa....but only after i sit the exams. Unless i repeat unit 4 next year?
I was thinking along the lines of "I run a community of 40,000 students and I will go to the media with how badly you've treated this person" but on second thoughts threats probably aren't the best way of getting people on your side
Students should attend every examination session if at all possible and not miss an examination because they do not feel able to do their best.
The Special Provision procedures are designed to cover the case of a student who performs below expectations due to adverse circumstances.
If a student does not attend an examination session and their application for a Derived Examination Score is not approved they will not receive a score for that examination.
If you truly do not feel up to studying and attending your exams, then don't. You are not required to... you will only get a 0 if you don't receive a derived score but VCAA would have to be utter morons not to grant it.
If you decide to take that route I would suggest that you:
- see a doctor, tell them the situation and get them to write a medical note stating that in their professional opinion you are not fit to attend your exams. Or, ask for a referral to a psychiatrist who will write the note - but from experience a GP is generally happy to assess and attest to mental issues.
- I know this will be hard, but you need to ask for a medical history for your parent, which should have information as to their illness, the terminal diagnosis and the date of diagnosis. Or, a note from your parent's doctor - just make sure the note has the doctor's contact details on it and preferably an official hospital letterhead.
This is so you can have as much supporting documentation for your application as possible.
Unless i repeat unit 4 next year?
That's also an option -
Compassionate Late Withdrawal or Interrupted Studies
If an illness or personal circumstance has been so severe that a student has not been coping with the VCE demands, speak with the VCE Coordinator about Compassionate Late Withdrawal or Interrupted Studies status. The school will need supporting professional evidence if a student decides to pursue either of these options.
Maybe you should consider speaking to your VCE coordinator about this option? I have no idea what it means though...
thank you so so so much for all your help!! i'm at a stage where i feel like i want to complete the exams regardless of how tired i feel. do you think its realistic of me to plan to attend most but not all of them so that the ones i do attend i'd be 100% devoted to them. like maths for example i've already done like 10 prac exams (20 if you count the fact that there's parts 1 & 2) and i want to do another 10 (aiming for s.s above 45) where as english i've only done 5 essays for text response and 2 for language analysis, so i feel like i wanna ditch it and perfect maths... its the only way i feel like i can catch up on what i've missed in the past three weeks but still leave enough room to spend time with dad. i want to give 100 % to certain subjects and then not attend or try as hard on others - do you think that would be a good plan??
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You obviously have such amazing strength and courage, I have no doubt that whatever you choose to do, and whichever way you go about it, you will come out on top. Whilst I cannot begin to imagine how hard it must be at the moment, try to maintain a positive outlook. But remember: you are more than entitled to your feelings, and if you become overwhelmed over the next few weeks at any time, its perfectly okay and completely understandable. Everyone is here to help in whatever way possible, so never think that you are alone! Please take care
thank you so much. words like that give me soo much strength. <3
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Betruetoyou22 your courage and strength is actually quite amazing even to the point it's inspirational, I know myself I would give up in times and situations like yours, I don't any real advice to give you but I would like to say that I wish you all the best for the time spent in year 12 and far beyond into the future, I hope your situation gets better soon and that I hope you get better so you can ace those exams (if you sit exams) and score a fantastic ATAR. You can do it
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Betruetoyou22 your courage and strength is actually quite amazing even to the point it's inspirational, I know myself I would give up in times and situations like yours, I don't any real advice to give you but I would like to say that I wish you all the best for the time spent in year 12 and far beyond into the future, I hope your situation gets better soon and that I hope you get better so you can ace those exams (if you sit exams) and score a fantastic ATAR. You can do it
Thankyou so much !!! truly appreciate everything you just said and wish you the best too :)
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Betruetoyou22 your courage and strength is actually quite amazing even to the point it's inspirational, I know myself I would give up in times and situations like yours, I don't any real advice to give you but I would like to say that I wish you all the best for the time spent in year 12 and far beyond into the future, I hope your situation gets better soon and that I hope you get better so you can ace those exams (if you sit exams) and score a fantastic ATAR. You can do it
Thankyou so much !!! truly appreciate everything you just said and wish you the best too :)
You're welcome, Thank you :)
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Well a good thing to keep at the back of your mind is that you always have the opportunity to repeat Year 12, while it may not be the most desirable path to take, it's an option which is there and if, by whatever means, you don't get the ATAR you think you're capable of, there's always another chance for you to have a fresh start and just do it all again.
I know that it might not be the best option especially given that you're nearly done, but you know, it does have its benefits, you'll be able to start over again with a fresh mind, carrying nothing over from this year and you won't have any qualms, regrets or "what ifs" about how you go and that's always something which is very comforting. I'd never be able to live with myself if I knew something affected my VCE and I could have done better if I had another chance (but I can be competitive like that).
In terms of applying for a derived examination score, I personally know someone who applied for one and he was able to do it through the school's Head of Senior School. So essentially he just had to get all the required medical paperwork which was outlined by VCAA and bring it to school and they were able to do it all for him. Always remember that school staff are all there to support you and they probably have come across many similar cases to yours before, so they will have experience about what to do, so make sure you make use of their experience and knowledge.
Anyhow, I wish you all the best for your exams, by showing such conviction to wanting to do well on VCE, you would have no doubt made your parents and more importantly your own self very proud. Like I often say, it's not only the end result that matters, but it's the experiences which you gain and deal with on the way which truly shape who you are. Good luck.
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Well a good thing to keep at the back of your mind is that you always have the opportunity to repeat Year 12, while it may not be the most desirable path to take, it's an option which is there and if, by whatever means, you don't get the ATAR you think you're capable of, there's always another chance for you to have a fresh start and just do it all again.
I know that it might not be the best option especially given that you're nearly done, but you know, it does have its benefits, you'll be able to start over again with a fresh mind, carrying nothing over from this year and you won't have any qualms, regrets or "what ifs" about how you go and that's always something which is very comforting. I'd never be able to live with myself if I knew something affected my VCE and I could have done better if I had another chance (but I can be competitive like that).
In terms of applying for a derived examination score, I personally know someone who applied for one and he was able to do it through the school's Head of Senior School. So essentially he just had to get all the required medical paperwork which was outlined by VCAA and bring it to school and they were able to do it all for him. Always remember that school staff are all there to support you and they probably have come across many similar cases to yours before, so they will have experience about what to do, so make sure you make use of their experience and knowledge.
Anyhow, I wish you all the best for your exams, by showing such conviction to wanting to do well on VCE, you would have no doubt made your parents and more importantly your own self very proud. Like I often say, it's not only the end result that matters, but it's the experiences which you gain and deal with on the way which truly shape who you are. Good luck.
thankyou for your well-wishes :) i don't think i'd want to repeat the year but in terms of the derivative how did your friend end up going? did he feel like the dev did him justice?
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I really don't know him well enough to comment on how well he did - he was a friend of a friend of mine, so it's a story which has been relayed to me really.
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Ditching some and acing the others sounds like a good plan to me.
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Ditching some and acing the others sounds like a good plan to me.
really? i'm planning to only focus on the subjects where i feel like i can actually lift my sac results up with... what do you think? Ditching english seems a bit risky to me though because it is in the top 4...
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Ditching some and acing the others sounds like a good plan to me.
really? i'm planning to only focus on the subjects where i feel like i can actually lift my sac results up with... what do you think? Ditching english seems a bit risky to me though because it is in the top 4...
Yeah, always best to do well in English :)
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Focus on subjects that you know should be in your top 4 (scaling wise as well)
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Focus on subjects that you know should be in your top 4 (scaling wise as well)
Yeah, definitely, and I suggest the same for most other students as well, but remember to have a backup plan, so don't completely neglect the others.