ATAR Notes: Forum

VCE Stuff => VCE Science => VCE Mathematics/Science/Technology => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Chemistry => Topic started by: dinosaur93 on November 12, 2012, 11:26:32 am

Title: % ionisation
Post by: dinosaur93 on November 12, 2012, 11:26:32 am
Given a reaction of weak acid in equilibrium, what happens to the % ionisation when it has been diluted?

Which side does the equilibrium favour to oppose the compensate for the change?
Title: Re: % ionisation
Post by: kenhung123 on November 12, 2012, 12:01:37 pm
I think it increases?
Title: Re: % ionisation
Post by: sin0001 on November 12, 2012, 12:07:26 pm
Yeah the % ionisation increases, because equilibrium shift to the right upon dilution (to re-establish equilibrium), so more acid is ionised
Title: Re: % ionisation
Post by: Niskii on November 12, 2012, 12:13:25 pm
Question relating to that...

For example, if you have ethanoic acid or another weak acid. When it's diluted with water, doesn't it decrease the concentration of everything? How do you know it shifts to the right to oppose the change, thus increasing the % ionisation?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: % ionisation
Post by: sin0001 on November 12, 2012, 12:18:05 pm
If the concentration of everything is decreased that means, initially, the concentration fraction (Q) would be less than K, so to re-establish equilibrium the concentration fraction must increase to = K, so it shifts to the right because more products = higher Q
Title: Re: % ionisation
Post by: nooshnoosh95 on November 12, 2012, 09:48:25 pm
isnt it also that a dilution is an addition of water which is a reactant
so the system tries to oppose this change by increasing the amount of product ie. favouring the forward reaction
Title: Re: % ionisation
Post by: sin0001 on November 12, 2012, 10:11:53 pm
No the system only favours particular directions when there's a change in concentration. In this case, adding water won't change the concentration of water, because it's always a constant (around 56 M), so dilution does not cause a net forward reaction because of the change in concentration of the water, but to increase the concentration fraction & re-establish equilibrium.
Title: Re: % ionisation
Post by: Niskii on November 12, 2012, 11:59:23 pm
Ahh that makes sense. Thank you!